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[–]Erasmus 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'm not going to discourage you from your research, but I will say that whenever they've got you talking about the Holocaust, you're losing.

[–]antireddit 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I've always felt this way too.

If Jews bring it up to try to guilt trip or shut down criticism of them. Just tell them it was horrible, as were the 93% of deaths in ww2 that werent Jewish they never seem to mention. I mean the Germans lost 11 million people in ww2(take note wignats). So Germans paid an even greater price than they did, and I aint German anyway.

Both my grandfathers fought with the “allies” in Europe securing their continued existence. They sure as hell didnt wind up doing it to secure mine, as many of the people they supposedly saved have been trying to demographically wipe us out ever since.

[–]AFutureConcern 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

To appropriate a little leftist language:

The Holocaust is a social construct.

Not to say that it didn't happen, or to debate any historical facts of the matter. Just to recognize that the social importance we place upon it compared to other loss of life (you gave the Germans as an example), is socially constructed by Jews who place Holocaust memorials everywhere, create TV shows to this day demonizing the Nazis, and who consider it a core part of their identity as Jews.

[–]antireddit 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well Norm Finkelstein summed up this holocaust as a manufactured religion mentality in his book the Holocaust industry. It's really disturbing. The notion its done to ensure it "never happens again" to any humans seems to be contradicted by their insistence on downplaying other genocides like the Holodomir, Armenian Genocide, Mao's cultural revolution, and Red Terror. They seem more concerned that these other genocides might steal some of their thunder. Does that sound like the actions of someone trying to prevent future genocide? There were way more genocides post war than before. So the only practical effect this obsession has had is advancing Jewish and Israeli interests and shutting down all criticism of either.

One of the biggest practicioners of this holocaust religion are neocons, and they're probably responsible for more civilian deaths than any other group in the last two decades. There's nothing more dangerous than a group that perceives themselves as the ultimate victim, and therefore feels anything they do is justified either as payback, or as doing whatever is necessary to protect themselves. Jews kind of already had that mentality before ww2. So this has just added to their already preexisting misanthropy.

This is one of the reasons everyone should be terrified of their unchecked media power. Nobody should have that kind of power, least of all a group that seems so psychologically damaged, and follow a religion that enshrines them as the most important people in existence and has numerous examples of them committing genocide in their holy books. Its just about the worst combination I can think of.

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's nothing more dangerous than a group that perceives themselves as the ultimate victim, and therefore feels anything they do is justified either as payback, or as doing whatever is necessary to protect themselves.

Neocons use this justification for their actions abroad, progressives do it domestically.

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

― C. S. Lewis