ColonizationNot like the other fag hags: straight girl given pride of place in "queer" anthology

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[–]hufflepuff-poet 32 insightful - 1 fun32 insightful - 0 fun33 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This type of nonsense is why I hate "queer" and all this "queer identity this, queer culture that". What is a straight queer?! A straight person whose "weird and edgy"?!

I'm a lesbian, a woman who loves other women. There is nothing "queer" about that, it's natural for gay people to love the same-sex!!

At some point, we lost sight of the fact that all gays and lesbians were fighting for was the right to love who we want and live how we want, not to be "weird and edgy"...

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Unfortunately, a lot of people thought that we were fighting for the sake of fighting. Now they're fighting for absurd things while claiming that it is just like our battles decades ago. We pretty much won in the US, and now they're finding new things to fight over. Except these things didn't need to be fought, so now they're harming everyone and doing no good.

[–]fuckupaddamsBisexual Terve 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting point you make here. Maybe the straights can be the queers and the gays can just be the normal people.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

So why is it OK for people to identify into sex and sexual orientation when they are objectively not what they identify as but it's taboo to identify into another race, ethnicity, or age?

[–]reluctant_commenter 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I will never understand it... the mental gymnastics people undergo to avoid this dissonance between how sex and race are treated (for example) are amazing. It is probably one of my top questions to pose to people who are mildly curious but not aware of the harm caused by the trans rights movement. Maybe I should make a list of such questions or something.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The video by a Swedish woman (Hanna Lindholm) interviewing university students about gender identity is instructive. They said they support her if she identifies as a man. Most seem pleased with themselves for being so woke. But then she added additional things onto her identity. Like can she identify as 2 meters tall, can she identify as 7 years old, can she identify as Japanese? You can see most of them suddenly realize their ridiculousness as she adds on to her identity, but some maintain the cognitive dissonance. For most, it goes from “what’s the harm?” to the harm is self-explanatory.

I think the trans-age and “children know who they are” pedophilic elephant in the room need to be emphasized. And you can get many people to arrive at that conclusion by asking questions like Hanna did. People really need to know these arguments are being actually made and pedos are actually trying to rebrand as a sexual orientation with a flag using gender identity and queer theory logic.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And the best question to ask when people say that trans-age and trans-race isn't real is why? Why is this not acceptable and real but transgender is? Is it because people can stand to benefit if they identify as another race/another age, because they can stand to benefit from changing genders as well.

[–]hufflepuff-poet 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Please do make a list if you have time! I keep trying to find new ways to approach this topic w friends and my gf without seeming "transphobic" and the sex v race area is usually my go-to (even though they usually just say "oh that's different"...ok, but how is it different?!)

[–]fuckupaddamsBisexual Terve 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The answer is usually because x race has been oppressed and so it's offensive to just identify as that. Conveniently forgetting female oppression is constant throughout time and geography.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 22 insightful - 4 fun22 insightful - 3 fun23 insightful - 4 fun -  (8 children)

No this is great. Let all the straight girls flood the queer label in droves. All the basic Beckys with their 'live, laugh, love' and ugg boots and pumpkin spice lattes and (whatever other misogynistic stereotypes are popular this week to put women down,) let them all come under the queer umbrella. That's the quickest way to make this shit die.

[–]reluctant_commenter 19 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Seconding this. Like the post about the "spicy straight" girl, lol. Almost everyone qualifies as "queer" anyway, let's add the whole entire population.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

When everyone's queer, no one will be.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, exactly this!

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

no it will be the end to homosexuals... just erased while they speak for us.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

(Sorry, I'm angry-ranting in this one, I've been marathoning this latest season of Real Housewives of NY and they're all screaming at each other and I'm losing it! I <3 you, this aggression is not towards you at all!)

Honestly, this is (my paranoid gut fear) what's going to happen. 10 years ago there were a handful of asexuals on the internet who were (claiming to be) 0% attracted to anyone sexually. They were just this tiny group of people, they didn't want to have sex, they had zero interest in romantic partners, they just wanted to belong under the LGBT umbrella for whatever fucking stupid reason. I'm just annoyed at how things have played out, and I'm annoyed at them for INSISTING SO HARD to get a seat at the table when we made it clear we did not want or need them and they didn't need us. And then suddenly through some kind of asexual reproduction they began multiplying and mutating! Grey asexuals, demi sexuals, aro ace, whatever the fuck, there are so many of them, so many different flavors, I don't have statistics but I feel like right now under the asexual umbrella, maybe 5% of them are truly asexual, and even then I believe this is a medical (hormonal? medication? tumor?) issue or a psychiatric issue, not a true sexuality to have no libido.

And again with the T. They were just HSTS, they were a small bunch, and we were co-existing. And then the trenders and perverts and fetishists flooded in and drowned the HSTS out, again I don't know the percentages, but only a tiny % of HSTS are visible. Not only that, they are steamrolling over the dragqueens too.

So of course us LGB are next. The straight girls have been cannibalizing bisexuality since the 90's or even before. They switched over to pansexual for a hot minute, but now they're back pretending to be bi. The political lesbians (straight/bi women) have been at it for a long time too. But it's the transgenders that are destroying the L and the G label.

At least with L and G it's still easy to see with our eyes who's who, so you two will survive a bit longer, but we bi's are fucked. I'm glad I'm too old to be involved with this youngest crop of 'bi girls' who only want to perform at being bi publicly and will probably cry if they see someone else's vagina IRL. That kind of rejection would be heartbreaking to an L/B teenager who is just trying to find love, to be treated like she is disgusting and needy instead.

When it swings back around, the next generation might absolutely reject all the "queer" things, including us LGB and we end up like it's the 80's all over again with people calling us queer in the hate-crime way all because of these trendy assholes who will quietly slink back into being straight the moment danger is headed their way.

They have no idea how much damage they are causing and even if they did know, they wouldn't care. They are much too invested in lying to themselves, that's why they need validation so much.

Anyway, sorry for the rant. I wish I could climb a mountain and just AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ontop of it.

[–][deleted] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

queer has no meaning except as a fucking insult. Queer is an insult to the years of criminalization of homosexuality (and bisexuality as an extension). TQ please fucking drop us.

[–]1lemon 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"queer" has and will always be an insult.

[–]SkinnyVanilla 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

More proof that "queer" has absolutely nothing to do with the gays.

[–]julesburm1891 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

the sexual identity tourist code-opting queer politics because it’s convenient and easy for her to do so.

More like, co-opting an entire experience that no LGB people opted in to, but you’re basically right.

Also, what book is this from? I legit had a second where I thought I might be having a stroke because I couldn’t parse out anything she was saying.

[–]our_team_is_winning 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://archive.is/DqOoG

Stacey May Fowles is a graduate in Women's Studies and English Literature whose written work has been published in various digital and literary publications, including Fireweed, Shameless, The Absinthe Literary Review, Kiss Machine, subTERRAIN, and Lickety Split. Her non-fiction piece Friction Burn appeared in the widely acclaimed anthology Nobody Passes: Rejecting the Rules of Gender and Conformity

I'm guessing it's from that "Nobody Passes" thing?

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They want the word "queer" to be the same as how they demand "man" and "woman" be used, where the word is so broad and all-encompassing as to render it essentially meaningless and useless for expressing a concrete statement about a particular fact. Instead of just slang for "homosexual", the word queer now literally has no real meaning other than a trendy genderspecial word to stick on one's profile to make one appear woke.

[–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Look I did this kind of... when I was 15. This was in the early 2000s and you were hard pressed to find out and proud gay folks let alone a trans kid at school. I was masculine somewhat and was goth-ish a bit before the emo scene exploded and I rejected it. I was experimenting with the fluidity of black clothes and liked guys wearing eyeliner. I would say I felt like a gay man in a woman's body. I wondered what it would be like to be a man because sometimes being a woman just sucks.

I grew out of this as I learned to embrace my body, gender and sexuality. I am not defined by those things but they are part of myself I can't change.

I can't make anyone love or accept me but I can love and accept myself. When I did that I discovered people who liked me as I was.

Now, I am a happy mom to a girl. She can be who she wants. She doesn't have to become a boy to have freedom in her life. That's what I'm fighting for!

[–]grixit 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Cool. Hep. Hip. Groovy. With it. Gnarly. Indy. I know i missed a few. And now Queer. The difference this time is the speed at which the establishment has coopted the term and started selling it back to the masses.

[–]JulienMayfair 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Some of this goes all the way back to the late Eve Sedgwick, the one-time high priestess of Queer Theory. She was actually in a "queer" marriage to a gay man. One of my gay friends was in a grad program with her, and he said that it was very clear that she had a coterie of gay male hangers-on who were the right kind of gay for her. According to him, if you were not the kind of gay man she liked, she wouldn't give you the time of day.

She was the paradigm of this kind of thing, a privileged, educated, straight white woman who wants desperately to be radical and edgy and, thus, tries to figure out every angle through which she can be an "outsider," all while turning it into a lucrative career.