Philosophy Tube is coming out as a woman. Do heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals & bisexuals in the LGBTQ movement yet?

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[–][deleted] 35 insightful - 3 fun35 insightful - 2 fun36 insightful - 3 fun -  (26 children)

As a women I find it bizarre. I watched the first few minutes of the video and then I picked one of his videos from two years ago and I couldn't honestly say that this guy is particularly feminine or effeminate. I've met guys in real life like him too. They're not effeminate in how they behave or think and then suddenly they're a "woman" and you're meant to treat them like a woman. It's jarring. I went to school with a guy who was effeminate and this ain't that. I'm not going to sit down and have a conversation with this guy about the stuff I would talk to most girls about - like trash tv, or gossip a bit. I remember trying to open up to one about a difficult experience (we had both gone through similar experiences) and they weren't empathetic in the way that I would expect a woman to be. It was like reading those posts in r/relationships where they tell the guy that when girls tell them about their problems most of the time they don't want them to be 'fixed' they want a bit of empathy and then light bulbs go off in these dudes' heads. But back to my point - these guys aren't effeminate, they don't behave or think much like women. As I women I have no idea how to interact with them. I don't know how to connect with them or trust them like I would with a woman.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 44 insightful - 5 fun44 insightful - 4 fun45 insightful - 5 fun -  (7 children)

Well, most statistics and studies are showing, that they still have male patterns of behaviour, male patterns of crimes and male socialization in majority of their actions. So only "feminine" thing they have - is sexist stereotypes on "how woman should look visually".

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 30 insightful - 3 fun30 insightful - 2 fun31 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

There was a brilliant post on Tumblr I found which highlighted the fact that a lot, and I mean A LOT of incarcerated killers and rapists become transwomen. It was a fuckton of cases. I'm gonna look for it if it hadn't been nuked yet.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 31 insightful - 6 fun31 insightful - 5 fun32 insightful - 6 fun -  (5 children)

It is because "transwoman" now includes crossdressers, transvestites and everyone on Earth. Around third of all serial killers were cross-dressers, by new definition of trans - they all were transwomen. Half of serial rapists were cross-dressers and often AGP as well. So nothing strange that they are all included after "trans" category was broadened.

[–]fuck_reddit 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That’s really interesting! Do you have any studies or news stories that have more information about this. I’d love to read more.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You mean about serial killers and serial rapists? I've read that long before transgender craze, so I did not even knew how it will be related. So I don't think I will find it now. If googling will not help (as Google is pro-trans lobby, like if you write on youtube comment "gender identity" and some bad word in same phrase - comment will be automatically removed), try searching in duckduckgo instead then.

In UK prisons in 2018, transwomen imprisoned for sexual assault were 44-48% of all (70-72 of 150), while regular men only 20-22%, so twice as much. Part of them transitioned after getting into prison, thought, but still.

On Wikipedia there was list of transvestites serial killers, but because transvestites are now part of transgenders, it was renamed and then removed from site.

Found funny link from 2012: https://www.usmarshals.gov/foia/Reading_Room_Information/Publications/transvestic_fetishism.pdf

It is kinda hard to find anything now, as it is all now filled with "JK Rowling cross dressing serial killer is her transphobia" and so on.

[–]fuck_reddit 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah... ironically, if they made a distinction between transvestites and transgender people (cause there does seem to be a difference), then they wouldn't have to worry about this issue. But, the "lady" doth protest too much, methinks... The fact that they feel so "attacked" by JKR for her recent book demonstrates to me that they are more similar to the killer than they'd like to admit. (Not to say that they are serial killers, but that they are more AGP than dysphoric).

[–]SnowAssMan[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They don't even distinguish between non-binary & binary & they are like polar opposites in many ways. There is also a massive chasm of differences between the homosexual ones & the heterosexual ones. Most "trans kids" are gay, most trans adults are heterosexual (often shifting into bisexuality when they transition, even without hormones). The brain differences are only in the homosexual ones, because they are the same brain differences all homosexuals have compared to heterosexuals.

"Transgender" isn't an identity, it's a phase that predominantly affects gay children, which is why promoting the idea of trans children is just makeshift conversion therapy. Up to 95% desist if left to their own devices, but when they are put on puberty blockers the desistance rate drops to just 2%! Cross-gender self-identification is the phase, transition is the name of the conversion therapy method.

Here is the source for the 25% of serial killers cross-dressing, so a quarter of all novels could feature them & still wouldn't be demonstration, just accurate representation:

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.457.3731&rep=rep1&type=pdf

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That’s really interesting! Do you have any studies or news stories that have more information about this. I’d love to read more.

Not who you were asking, of course, but I also remember reading about this years ago, pertaining to (male) serial killers.

Apparently, it's common for them to dress in drag, specifically as the women/girls whom they plan to kill (or have killed), and pose like something out of a crime-scene photo: bound, hanging, seemingly dead, etc. Whatever they fantasize about doing to their victims. (They spend so much time and energy fantasizing about their crimes-- rapists are the same way-- that some experts think the main purpose of committing them is to provide fuel for these fantasies.) It's to the point that, when trying to catch a serial killer, law enforcement looks for sales of man-sized women's clothing. Tracing these will often lead them to the murderer.

This seems like a really important manifestation of men-imagining-themselves-as-women-ism, because it's so characteristic of men who-- I think it's safe to say-- do NOT like or respect women. And the rah-rah-transwomen attitude that we see today (especially among females) seems predicated on the assumption that men who impersonate us necessarily do; indeed, must. How dare women doubt it! Why would anybody want to be someone whom they regard as inferior, even deserving of abuse and violence? Probably seems absurd to these TWAW-ers... but not to the people who've seen all the me-as-female-corpse pics that serial killers take of themselves.

Can't recall exactly what books I got this from, but pretty sure that at least one of John E. Douglas's must have been among them. Possibly also Dark Dreams by Roy Hazelwood (2001). And the so-called BTK killer (may he rot in hell) was definitely an example of the phenomenon.

[–]Franklintheturtle 26 insightful - 7 fun26 insightful - 6 fun27 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

I saw a recent video of an anime Youtuber whose videos I'd come across a few years ago. He was a very stereotypical guy in the videos, but in the more recent one he was in like a women's business suit, to do a video about anime ships. Turns out he came out as trans. Even now, the only thing stereotypically feminine about him is the way he dresses.

[–][deleted] 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yep. As a women it feels bizarre. I can see through it because I'm a women and I have had female friends, relatives, relationships all my life; but I'm expected to go along with the charade. Generally I have enough empathy for these guys to go along with it but I still have boundaries and my kindness definitely isn't limited.

[–]powpowpowpow 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I used to watch him from time to time and when I saw him in that suit I thought he was doing it for a joke? Since it was obviously a male in a wig... but apparantly not. I'm sad now.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 10 insightful - 8 fun10 insightful - 7 fun11 insightful - 8 fun -  (12 children)

The only trans I ever known in real life was homosexual. He was effeminate till very young. Of course, something makes me wonder whether the fact he is from some little sicilian town where homosexuality isn't welcomed, has to do with not just being gay, but it was always effeminate by nature, way more feminine than me. The way he moved her ass was better than 90 percent of women. That's was real effeminate brain. And as usual, real effeminate brain are homosexual.

[–]ColoredTwice 29 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 0 fun30 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

No man can have hip sway like woman, we have biologically different bones in that part. Our pelvis is much more wide than men's pelvis and leg bones are connected into loose joints on bigger angle, while men's are connected on fixed joints on much lower angle. When woman makes one step - pelvis on one side goes down and forward, on other side goes up and backwards because of that, so each side makes full circle. When man makes a step - pelvis and leg bones are not moving at all. That is one of reasons why men are much faster at running - just bone structure already making it easier to walk or run to them, and it is not even counting more strenght they have.

That is why it is almost always easy to distinguish between man and woman gaits. Transition "to other gender" is not changing pelvis, joints and bones - so everything is staying same as of a man.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 2 insightful - 7 fun2 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 7 fun -  (6 children)

His hips where wide, He had pear shaped body and feminine movement and mannerism. It was so natural to him. He couldn't act masculine, since he was very young kid, always into dressing as a woman. That was natural femininity. And in fact he was homo, not hetero.

[–]ColoredTwice 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

What you described is just performative - it has nothing to do with skeletal structure. We can't change how our bones, joints and skeletal structure are. It is just how two sexest are born - it is inherent structure of our bodies that is different between sexes and can't be changed. Even muscles around our hips are placed differently in men's and women's bodies. There a lot of such small differences which are structural and can't be changed.

Same as lungs or hearts of same size and height man and woman would be different size and shape. Men's would be bigger/larger. This can't be changed by taking cross sex hormones or by "performin femininity". It is just basic structure of body.

Here, short video someone recently posted about gait and pelvis bones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEZrNLagwls

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Could be Klinefelters

[–]ColoredTwice 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It could be, but I doubt. It rare condition and among people with DSD only 1% or less are trans, so it makes such situation even less possible.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 2 insightful - 7 fun2 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

I never said he had female body. I said he had natural female mannerism. Very extremely feminine. He was extremely young when it started to show such femininity. He couldn't be done on purpose. It was his nature.

[–]ColoredTwice 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You are saying that "acting like female" and "feminine mannerism" is biological? It kinda...sexist - against this feminists were fighting for decades, as women can be different and we are not some sexist stereotype. While TRA now are trying to say that all sexist stereotypes are natural and biological.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

All women are different, that's doesn't means masculininity and feminity cannot be innate. There are biological sexual difference. TRA don't accept a masculine woman or a feminine man. This you must fit the stereotype or behaviour expected by your sex. It's very different thing.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It sounds like you met the opposite type of who I met then :) I've met some effeminate gay men (as acquaintances) and you could tell they were effeminate in how they communicated and behaved. Not exactly like women but women like. I imagine your friend would have been at the extreme end of that. And that is what I though all trans were like. It shocked me when this guy came out, I was puzzled because they weren't effeminate, most of their friends were guys, they liked doing the same stuff as your average guy. That twigged me onto Blanchard's typology and I realised the source of distress for this person came from a very different place to your friend.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I got to know a real trans. The harmless one who is a female best friend because he acts a lot like a girl and would never fit with guys, not the perv presenting as a lesbian.

[–]SnowAssMan[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Practically every culture outside the West labels their homosexual population something other than man or woman (because of their reproductive centred gender roles I guess which gay people fall outside of), then our Western eyes look at the phenomenon & deduce that they are "transexuals", "women", "third gender". Even though 100% of them are gay & half of them are masculine-presenting. Just more of this gender-obsession erasing gay people basically.

Only Western cultures produce the autogynaephiles, the heterosexual ones who tend to be the most dogmatic, insisting that they are literally, biologically the same as women. Probably because the middle-classes tend to be neurotic.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, westerners can't seem to wrap their heads around the fact that words like "third sex", "two spirit", what have you, were historically used to ostracize and dehumanize homosexuals. Not as progressive as TRAs would have you believe.

[–]fuck_reddit 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know a guy like that, 6’3” and ripped. Suddenly announced he’s a woman and wants to wear dresses/make-up. He’s ruined most of his friendships in the meantime cause of the way he’s treating everyone around him.

[–]Dravidian 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

AGPs are rarely effeminate before they transition.