"CAIS" (Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome) proves that Transgenderism is Real"

ColoredTwice · 2021-10-18T04:59:31+00:00

That's what I am saying about overblown reaction and hateful albeism. Prisons for them and doctors treating them? And spend a lot of money, time, resources for no real reason, except you personally knowing that those 10 people in whole country are diagnosed 30 years earlier than they otherwise would. CAIS is not life-threatening, so there no hurry needed. Because of complete insensitivity to testosterone, they would be weaker than most other females as well. All those money and time could be rather spend on reasearching female-specific diseases and female-specific healthcare - as those are underfunded and underresearched. Even 1/10th of needed money on detecting DSD conditions in everyone would be already more than governments are spending on female health related researches.

ColoredTwice · 2021-10-18T00:37:54+00:00

Spend hundreds of millions of dollars to test billion people to find a dozen "wrong" people and put them in prisons? This sounds very unreasonable, insane and vindicative.

And if they are too disordered, like CAIS, they will be gotten rid of

You realize that you are advocating for albeistic fascism?

ColoredTwice · 2021-10-17T19:41:13+00:00

They all have 5ARD condition. They are androgynous until puberty, but clearly male after puberty. Condition is rare, but few African countries are known for searching specifically for this condition in kids, to raise those kids "for female sports".

CAIS have female phenotype. Even when naked you would not say they are not women, as they have vulva, vaginal opening and clitoris-like structure.

ColoredTwice · 2021-10-17T18:59:42+00:00

Wow, are you calling there to murder me? Almost all of 40 DSD conditions are requiring medical treatment and help. In my condition - I need to take adrenal hormones daily, or I will die. Removing category for my disorder makes no sense and it will kill girls with it (boys can survive in most cases). Historically it was the case - girls were receiving boys treatmen and dying, while boys surviving.

If you're CAIS, and claim to be female, you are deceiving yourself and everyone else.

Looks like you have no idea about DSD conditions. There are 40 different conditions.CAIS is just one of them, most people with CAIS do not know they have it until very late in life, as they look completely like females (they have vulvas and breasts, female skeletal structure) and have similar health complications, excluding ones connected with reproductive system. So your ideas would not work, unless to find 10 people in whole UK we will be testing everyone with extra invasive tests. This makes no sense at all - so many extra expenses for...for what exactly? Because you hate people with CAIS for some reason? And why hating them exactly? They are one of the most rare conditions among DSD's. Even more rare than mine SW CAH.

imprisonment

Lol. That's pretty dictatorship and 100% like TRA are wanting society to be.

on eggshells

Just shows how you are ignorant.

You would not need to be on the eggshells - because you would not even know if someone have CAIS. Starting from time in womb, they were going female phenotype. So they look exactly like any other female - even when naked, as they have vulva, vaginal openning, and in most cases even clitoris-like semi-functional structure. So unless they tell you - you would not ever know. Hell, they don't know it themselves until late in life in most cases.

ColoredTwice · 2021-06-23T07:40:59+00:00

"Possibility to chose sexual orientation" is what lies in the idea of conversion therapy and in actions of most homophobic groups - including TRA, who are calling orientation as "preference". Political lesbianism in most cases is just homophobia, as it hurts real lesbians and not considering lesbian experiences at all. So it is "feminism, but not for lesbians".

ColoredTwice · 2021-05-15T23:58:43+00:00

Sex in my condition is important to know, as treatment for boys and girls differes - and time when treatment is required is different too, that's why previously mostly only boys were surviving with it.

ColoredTwice · 2021-05-15T18:15:04+00:00

I explained you everything. All positions.

You ignored them and asked same question again.

You ignored all my queations.

You are not acting in good faith. Either you are troll, or completely dumb.

Good bye.

ColoredTwice · 2021-05-15T18:11:32+00:00

CAN YOU FKN READ?

I am saying that WITH YOUR LOGIC THERE WILL BE 42 SEXES. I did not said there 42 sexes. I said your logic is flawed. That you are wrong even if apply your logic. But you ignoring EVERYTHING is being told for you about our painful medical conditions. And you are trying to use us as canon fodder, and ignoring all we saying. You can't even read what I said AND LYING ABOUT WORDS I WROTE.

Do you have understanding comprehension or you just don't care and ignoring 99% of my posts.

As I said in other post - I am blocking you. You are not acting in good faith - you are ignoring all questions we asking you and you are asking same questions again and again, ignoring all answers.

People should just poat links to you where we answered questions.

And stop using extremely rare and painful disorders as gotcha. I already answered that even if we more than 2 sexes - it doesnot matter in trans discussions and explained why. So can you just stop?

Either act in good faith and discuss or good bye.

ColoredTwice · 2021-05-15T18:06:42+00:00

You ignored 99% of the post.

They have extremely rare condition that their phenotype is almost exacly life female one, and no one knows they are male including them until 16-20 years old. In general they even have labia and vulva which is not the same as cosmetic surgical

you sound like trans riggts activist

Are you trolling?

Plus - answer my questions. Why you ignored them? Then answer at least this one:

WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO HURT PEOPLE WITH EXTREMELY RARE AND PAINFUL MEDICAL CONDITION AND OUT THEM FOR HURT???

Unlike transwomen - people with CAIS never were raised as men, no one ever considered them as men, they never knew themselves they are males. And this fact always hurts them a lot - as they realizing they are infertile and everything so far was a lie.

Amd here comes you and laughing at medical condition that require treatment and asking to hurt even more.

change the way we speak

lie

You are clearly troll. WHY ARE YOU IGNORING 99% OF WHAT BEING TOLD?

I am blocking you from now on.

ColoredTwice · 2021-05-15T17:32:29+00:00

And last question - WHY this even matters at all? Why this extremely small percent of people born with health issues do matter to you so much that you want to dehumanize us? What the difference we will make? Only around 1% of people with DSD are identifying as trans or non-binary. Even if we were 3rd sex, that would change nothing, because we would not be 3rd sex, there 40 VERY different conditions (and sometimes they are combined), so there will be at least 42 sexes then. And each sex will be just 0.0009% or less of population, when males and females would be around 49-51%. Even if we were able to change sex at will - that would change nothing either, because only 1% of intersex people are identifying as transgender, and there already much more transgender people than all intersex people combined. At least 99.99993% of transgender or non-binary people are NOT intersex (as only around 0.00007% of transgender people are intersex in biggest estimate, in realistic 0.000035% or less)

In USA aproximately around 0.7% of population are trans or non-binary, this means that if you take all intersex people in the whole world - there still will not be enough to fill all transgender or non-binary people in USA alone. This means that overwhelming majority of transgender and non-binary people are unambigiously and completely male or female. Only one in 20 000 transgender people can be intersex.

So all this dehumanizing of our conditions and taking our extremely rare and painful condition as some kind of "gotcha" in every single discussion is just disingenious and stupid.

You'd better donate to DSD-Families charity instead, if you really care about us.

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ColoredTwice · 2021-05-15T17:31:20+00:00

mods are deleting my threads

Because we answered your questions 10 times already. And you are still continuing to ask them, acting in bad faith and COMPLETELY ignoring if it has any moral justification as well by demanding from intersex people to out our conditions, even thought we already suffering from those conditions and need medical care and in general our life is harder because of this, but you demand to make our lives even worse becase YOU want something. Complete lack of empathy and narcissism - so similar to AGP males.

And if a woman takes hormones, removes her sex organs and a neopenis is implanted in her, she becomes 1) less female, more male, 2) less female, 3) neither male nor female, 4) male and female at the same time.

No, woman is same female regardless of how tall she is or if she has more or less hormones.

"Less female" is extremely offensive and in general such phrases are used as a slurs against intersex people.

Believe in "other sex" and "less female" or "less male" is what was leading to Intersex Genital Mutilation. So spreading this harmful believe is extremely dangerous and will lead to deaths or unneded surgeries, ruining lives of intersex people.

If sex is a spectrum, intersex and regular people can be some of these things, 1) male, 2) female, 3) more female, less male, 4) more male, less female, 5) neither male nor female, 6) male and female at the same time.

And that is why sex is a spectrum is very harmful concept and not needed in society. It will both harm a lot of people in healthcare, it will make much more confusing a lot of parts where sex is important - like sports or healthcare. And it will put a lot of pressure on people to conform.

This will mean that all those patriarchic societal pressures will become justified. So "man with smaller penis" will be less man and laughed out, that tall woman or shorter man will be considered as lesser and not completely a human. And so on. It is very dangerous concept which will only reinfoce gender roles. And it will have no biological justification, because spectrum of secondary characteristics is not making sexes a spectrum - so taller male will still need same treatment as shorter male, but different treatment than taller female. So such categorization makes no sense and only do harm.

Intersex are not male nor female?

Intersex are either male or female. We have told you this DOZENS of times. Why are you keeping ignoring all our answers?

It says that about 10% of XX males do not have sry.

Do not lie. It sayse next:

"In the remaining 10%, X inactivation spreads to include a portion of the SRY gene, resulting in incomplete masculinization."

So it still have SRY gene, just fragmented. Why are you ignoring EVERYTHING that not fitting your narrative? We are answering those questions again and again and again, but you keep asking them, even after they being answered.

This means you are asking them in bad faith. You don't want to hear answer to question, you want to hear what you believe yourself and not the truth.

This person says intersex people are nonbinary, neither man, nor woman, no matter what gametes or genitals they have and are a third sex: https://imgur.com/MERbsgr

No, we are either male or female. And we require treatment like other males or females. I require same pills for most of diseases as other females. My complications are similar to other females and not like males can have. I have Secondary PCOS because of my condition. Women with X0 Turner are losing ovaries - and only other women can lose ovaries, no male can have this problem. And so on.

Will you say that people with Congenital Heart Disease/Disorder are less human, because they have different developed heart? New species? Less male or female? Taller women are new sex? This makes no sense. If woman is taller she still have risk of PCOS, and if male is shorter - he can't have risk of PCOS.

So they are ignoring the definition of sex and just saying "those 0.18% of population are just other, abominations". Thanks!

Of course, if ignore definition of sex, then you can call anything sex. If any differences will mean new sex - then we will have 7.5 bilion sexes, because there does not exist two similar or exactly the same secondary or primary sex characteristics in 2 humans. This just makes no sense.

And why humans are special then? For every single species we are defining sex as this, but for humans we are defining sex as something else. Why? It reminds religion, which are believing that humans are special and following other rules than other universe.

Is sex determined by chromosomes or phenotype?

We answered this question to you 100 times.

I personally answered this question to you at least 3 times. EVERY DAMN TIME YOU JUST IGNORING IT. Maybe caps lock will work?

Sex is what reproductive role organism is aimed to fulfill, what type of genitals organism is aimed to support.

Turtles have same chromosomes for males and females, they are becoming male or female depending on temperature of egg when they were hatching. Yet we still always know who is male or female from them. Many rodents are looking exactly the same for males and females, yet we always know who is male and who is female. Clownfish can change sex depending on which gametes are ready - and yet we always know to WHAT sex clownfish changed right now.

Chromosomes and genitals are used in general for humans because in 99.981% of all cases they are 100% showing sex of a person. And if take in consideration SRY gene and inner sex organs (ovaries, uterus, testes, prostate, etc), then in 99.99991% of cases we can instantly say sex of a person. In the rest of 0.00009% there few more tests are needed to find sex, but even there it is possible.

It is possible to get a combination of uncompleted genes which will lead in sexless development, however - such kids are dying long before birth (at 1-2nd month of pregnancy), because human body can not develop without further instructions on becoming male or female - because the very vital organs are different for us (heart, lunghs, guts, skeleton, muscles, kidneys, etc), so they require different instructions from genes. So no living human is sexless.

And also why CAIS does not challenge binary sex?

Why should they?

If it's both chromosomes and phenotype, then people with CAIS are male and female at the same time.

Please let me know which one is true.

As it was answered at least 5 times to you - no, it is not true. And no, people with CAIS are not like transwomen as you asked in other thread.

People with CAIS in general looking like women, as they are completely insensitive to androgenes, so they started developing as females, yet they are lacking female reproductive organs and they are insensitive and can't react to male reproductive organs they have. Even in sports they are most likely not much stronger than females, but still stronger in some kinds of sports like powerlifting and running because they have different bone structure.

In general, we are accepting people with CAIS as women in society, but as males in healtcare. They were raised as normal and regular girls, everyone thinks they are girls/women, because in everything but inner biology they are like girls/women. So it would be extremely rude and unethical to out them to everyone but closest people and medical personel. Society is not perfect, so people with CAIS would be treated very badly when outed. CAIS happens in up to 0.0005% cases (it is hard estimate, most likely number is lower), but only males are struggling strongly from it, and they are around half of all cases, so CAIS is up to 0.00025% of births, with many not living past puberty in low developed countries.

Someone could have undeveloped female sex organs, but developed male sex organs. If sex is a binary, it would be really difficult to determine what their sex is when their sex organs are so mixed.

No, it would not difficult. Doctors who are studied this can say sex with few tests and can understand what one of 40 DSD conditions it is.

You understand that intersex conditions are extremely big outlier? We are only 0.18% births of population (and many not living long, so 0.18% of births will make it maybe 0.1% adults), and that 0.18% is for 40 different conditions. And only in around 0.0009-0.0018% of conditions genitals are ambigious or SRY gene is moved. That percent is much lower than percent of people born with Congenital Heart Disease/Disorder, lower than people born with 1 leg. So are we saying that people born with CHD are "completely fine and challenging how we define human species"? People born with intersex conditions all require medical treatment, because our conditions are not the norm and because of that we have a lot of health issues, which need to be treated.

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ColoredTwice · 2021-05-14T09:10:24+00:00

Why it isn't good enough? Comfort, dignity and not feeling afraid is already enough argument for single sex spaces. And safeguarding is even bigger argument. Even if males would not be violent and females would not be in danger - just named reasons should be already enough.

They feel uncomfortable and ashamed. While other girls understand them and may experienced the same - and boy never can understand or experience this.

Sports are single-sex as well, and not for safety reasons (in contact sports for safety reasons too, but it is small part of sports).

ColoredTwice · 2021-05-14T08:53:18+00:00

Privacy is important too. Young girls with first periods are fine changing pads when other girls are present in public bathroom. But would not be fine in unisex one.

Privacy is one of big issues in African countries for this reason.

As example - in recent Kenya report, they found that women are worse at education because the lack of single-sex spaces. They either have unisex bathrooms or none at all. So girls and teen women are skipping classes during periods, which is leading to them getting behind in knowledge. Feminists there are strongly fighting for single-sex spaces. One African feminist (I don't remember from what country) even said that single-sex spaces are very important requirement for women to gain equality and to be included in social life. And that lack of them is a sign of control and policing over women.

ColoredTwice · 2021-05-14T07:37:29+00:00

No, it means it is very hard (or unethical in case of CAIS) to determine and double down on it.

It is still possible, but there too few people to test and research.

For example - in last 100 years there were only 4 recorded cases of XXY or XXXY without SRY gene. And only one case of chromosomal chimerism which ended with person being male.

So even if it was impossible to determine sex of those 4, that would mean nothing - too rarelly happens.

Some humans are born with one leg because of chromosomal errors - this does not mean that humans are not bipedal. Right?

ColoredTwice · 2021-05-14T07:23:04+00:00

Most of this was answered in previous such threads.

And Collin said a bit different thing to what you are presenting he said. He said we are not typical male or female, not that we are neither.

Intersex is an umbrella term to a 40 very different conditions. All but 2 are happening only to one sex (and to be honest even those 2 are only visible on females). It is 0.18% of population shared by 40 conditions. Majority of conditions are unambigiously male or female.

Few where it is not that clear (like mine) are requiring few extra tests, to check:

Working gonades or gonade leftovers.
Genotype - SRY gene is checked (so XY without SRY can be considered female, as Y did no changes to organism and organism developed as female, but with some health issues).
Genitals.
Phenotype.
Natural hormonal level and hormonal sensitivity.

For few very rare conditions can be done some extra testings, but those are depending on specific person and are different each time.

For example, my condition is deadly if not treated after birth and males with females need different treatment, so when I was born with virilized body and enlargened clitoris, I was sent for screening, they found working ovaries and they gave me treatment for a correct sex, saving my life. And it happened almost 50 years ago in second-world country. Today healthcare is even better at this. Plus males and females have different complications and need different additional treatment (I got early Secondary PCOS and taking contraceptive pills to treat hormonal imbalace) - similar to all other people of same sex. And treatment needed by us is similar to other people of same sex.

Is intersex a disorder? Isn't it bigotry to call intersex people disordered or tell them they have a disorder? We mean something is wrong with them or their body, which sounds dehumanizing?

Why it is bigotry?

We all have health issues which require treatment. It is very important to know it and not ignore treatment and just saying "they are other sex and need no intervention" - will kill many of us.

And isn't disagreeing with transgender identities racist?

Transgender identity is not a race.

There have been many cultures that had a similar concept to transgender. They had third genders in these cultures, and that's where transgenders get their idea of gender identity from. Isn't it disrespectful to these cultures to disagree with transgender identities?

No. Transgender people of today are not from those cultures and not following those cultures standarts. "Third genders" there had no voice, were not allowed in female spaces, were mostly doing housewife job or were taking care of kids. Transwomen of today are not doing any of this. And transmen analogues did not existed until 20th century.

All those cultures were not saying that man becomes a woman. All those cultures were strongly patriarchical and those "third genders" were almost always homosexual, infertile or weak men. They were below men, but above women in social status. They were doing jobs meant for men and women, while regular men were not doing "women's housework". Very often those "third genders" were castrated or sterelized in other means.

Those third genders were always very homophobic practices. Like in modern Iran.

I am myself victim of similar practices - was put on testosterone to "cure" my lesbianism.

On the other hand - transgender activists exploiting and misrepresenting those cultures is racism.

ColoredTwice · 2021-05-12T04:49:59+00:00

By "unsafe for LGBTQ community" they mean that a lot of lesbians on those platforms are banned for "transphobia" for stating that they don't do dicks?

ColoredTwice · 2021-05-12T04:48:22+00:00

Heterosexual male who says he is a lesbian is leading GLAAD today?

No wonder then that GLAAD is so strongly anti-lesbian and that they are ignoring our existence and our problems completely.

I am surprised that they had not mentioned "male lesbians" then, like Stonewall did.

ColoredTwice · 2021-05-12T04:25:26+00:00

Can you not use medical malpractice called "assigning at birth" which was leading to so intersex genital mitilation, or at least no throw it in my face?

You co-opted highly traumatic experience to some of us without asking us or carying about us at all.

pepper spray

Which would be used against most transwomen as well, because "passing" ones are extreme minority.

And would be used for a reason. All women know that if male is breaking boundaries of women's spaces - get the f out of there. Good intentioned male will not do this in most cases, so risk is big of something unwanted happening.

And what does this have to do with gay men?

Because it is male on male issue too. Should it be fixed too by putting gay men with women, to make women uncomfortable instead?

ColoredTwice · 2021-05-11T23:25:14+00:00

Why men's issues with other men are fixed by throwing them on women and making women uncomfortable instead of teaching men to not be hateful? Why women must be uncomfortable and be silent about it instead? Sounds too misogynistic.

Lets rephrase too:

What if a bunch of men in the locker room don't want to change in front of a Gay man and complain? Should that gay man have to change in the woman's room because men see him not as fully man and are uncomfortable with his presence?

ColoredTwice · 2021-05-11T13:15:08+00:00

First part of article is calling non-ralated to menstruation bleeding as periods. Males with PMDS are regular males, they can't have periods, they do not have ovums and working ovaries - which are required to have periouds.

Periods are not just pain and bleeding: https://twitter.com/Iamthisnotthat1/status/1379744628207972355

Second part is some BS. Plus article there is saying that in second case person is female.

There they are representing women with CAH incorrectly (I myself have the most severe type of CAH - salt-wasting one). First of all - we DO NOT have both sets of genitals. All our "intersex" condition is for females, because our adrenal glands can not producing adrenal hormones, so body trying to produce them and instead producing adrogenes, which are virilizing our body (I have face hair, for example). Same with males, but more adrogenes for them are not making them "ambigious". And when you have such variant of CAH that virilizing your body - you will die without treatment. We need to take adrenal hormones all the time, through whole life, and we will die in first day if not receive treatment for correct sex (or more like girls will die, because "general" or unisex treatment is saving boys, but not enough for girls - we either will have disability or die), so correct sex should be determined very early.

So second case is completely impossible, so it is fake.

ColoredTwice · 2021-05-11T12:21:50+00:00

And they are okay to trigger some intersex people who were victims of this medical mistreatment called "assigning sex at birth and doing IGM instead of doing more tests to find sex"?

Just appropriate phrase and throw it around? I guess it is same as with word "queer", which is to this day used as anti-gay slurand followed with violence.

ColoredTwice · 2021-05-11T12:16:31+00:00

All you need to know about GLAAD: https://saidit.net/s/LGBDropTheT/comments/7pyp/your_average_lgbt_organisations/

Zero mentions of lesbians in yearly reports.

ColoredTwice · 2021-05-11T12:15:24+00:00

When GLAAD saying LGBTQ they mean "TQ-only".

They have mentioned lesbians zero times in their yearly reports: https://saidit.net/s/LGBDropTheT/comments/7pyp/your_average_lgbt_organisations/

ColoredTwice · 2021-05-11T12:14:01+00:00

GLAAD?

You mean that organization who mentioned lesbians ZERO times in their yearly reports?

https://saidit.net/s/LGBDropTheT/comments/7pyp/your_average_lgbt_organisations/

ColoredTwice · 2021-04-28T13:37:48+00:00

Males can't have any of those. Don't spread lies.

Why are you so persistent on spreading lies and harassing intersex people like myself?

You was told so many times that this is BS, was given studies and links, was asked to not missex or harass intersex people, and yet you are continuing harassment.

ColoredTwice · 2021-04-20T07:05:15+00:00

Scientific analysis and scientific method are based on skepticism, experimental proving and empirical accordance to proposed hypothesis.

Even most basic laws of physics are tested and being perceived skeptically thousand times every year - in tries to find any flaws or something that was not yet taken into account by them.

It's up to the person proposing a wild hypothesis to provide evidence & arguments backing it up.

It is basic rule of Hitchens's razor - burden of proof is lies on a person who is claiming something that is challenging established status quo. And if they fail to prove their position or provide any reliable evidence - their position should be dismissed until such proofs are provided.

And in general - The Russell's Teapot argument and thought experiment are exactly about this.

Interesting that religious philosopher's critique of Russell's Teapot is very similar to critique of biology by gender activists.

Russell said that if God made anything that changed objective reality - then burden of proof is lies on person who is claiming that God is objective reality.

And all his critique was based either on "God as idea" and on "subjective perception of individual" or their "feelings and beliefs" - in other words not challenging what Russell said at all.

And similar situation we see in Emma's or Collin's threads when they are discussing biology with gender activists - they are providing facts, statistics, researches, but receiving in answer talks about subjective perception or feelings.

ColoredTwice · 2021-04-18T16:44:16+00:00

Intersexuality? It is not sexuality, lol. It is just mocking of our conditions.

ColoredTwice · 2021-04-18T11:59:50+00:00

I'll just leave it here:

https://twitter.com/Iamthisnotthat1/status/1379744628207972355

ColoredTwice · 2021-04-17T13:25:36+00:00

Pretty sad - looks like she understands all the ways society has failed her, but thinks that itis her fault, not that society is wrong. She is blaming the victim, herself, instead.

ColoredTwice · 2021-04-17T11:08:52+00:00

On Ovarit they have more strict rules about topics in subs, so GC is about abolishing gender in general, but because trans movement is so agressive and active - most topics are still about it.

ColoredTwice · 2021-04-17T11:06:11+00:00

Now gender critical have two meanings, because it became very public and spreaded.

Gender Critical Feminism is criticizing gender and gender identity as a whole and fights to abolish gender stereotypes alltogether. They believe that biology is real and that you can't identify out of oppression. Most of supporters were lesbians or gnc women.

And second Gender Critical group are Gender Identity Critical people - they believe that biology is real and you can't identify as other sex than you. However, people from this group may be not against strict gender roles or against gender stereotypes themselves - so sometimes here can be conservatives, for example. This group only appeared because trans people are going out of their way to harass&silence people and because of their authoritharian methods.

ColoredTwice · 2021-04-14T18:54:17+00:00

Yeah, I know this. It is just different health issues, with different treatment, different symptomes, different comllications and different cause. It just two different adrenal deficiencies. It is like calling all heart diseases as congenital heart defects. Like I have 21-h mutation, but it is different one that have people with LOAH - as they have 21-h mutated too, but in different way than people with CAH. And main lacking hormone is different - we have some cortisol but have no aldosterone. While people with LOAH have no corrisol but some (or full) aldosterone. I am taking those hormones (and currently contraceptives due to secondary PCOS) whole my life.

LOAH is not congenital, as it is not visible at birth and their mutation may or may not cause LOAH. People with LOAH born completely normal male and female looking. That's why it is stupid to call it intersex condition - or if add LOAH - then PCOS should be added too, as PCOS has genetic pre-disposition too.

All 40 intersex conditions are happening in around 0.18% of population, so each one is around 0.004% on average. While LOAH is diagnosed in 1.55% of population. So it is like elephant in the room.

ColoredTwice · 2021-04-14T15:31:02+00:00

Late-oneset is not CAH at all. I still don't know why it is called like that in English.

CAH is "congenital adrenal hypoplasia" - we are lacking adrenal hormone aldosterone and low production of cortisone because of mutation of one gene. It is often important to know sex of an infant as if not treated - female infant can die or live as disabled. If not treated - body will try to make cortisol but fail and produse adrenal hormones instead. If not treated long we will die due to inability of consuming salts.

LOAH starts appearing late in life - for girls after 15+ years, for boys can be undetected. It is happening because of mutation in same gene but they have enough aldosterone but lack cortisol and lacking other hormone. They live fine without treatment, just have more testosterone. In general it is very similar to PCOS but affects both males and females. You can't call it "intersex", as it is not congenital and may or may not develop in people with that gene mutation. As with CAH it more affecting females than males.

In USSR healthcare they are called completely differently and unrelated. We have different lack of hormones, different mutations, we need different treatment and have different complications. Salt-Wasting CAH women often have "secondary PCOS". It is not PCOS but have similar symptomes - I have one. In USSR practice it is unrelated to PCOS too. PCOS is reason of condition, while secondary PCOS is just symptome.

Salt-wasting CAH is the only "intersex" variant of it. We born with virilized bodies and very big clit. Obviously big clit is just big clit - functions and look like clit, have nothing to do with penis. LOAH and mild-CAH or CAH in males have little or no effect on kids until later in life.

Male kids with SW CAH can be untreated almost to month, while females will die. That's why I was screened if I have ovaries. USSR medicine was both most progressive and most stereotype-leaning. So I got lucky. They easily found my condition and treated me well...but then they found I am lesbian and that was a horror story of them trying to cure it.

Sorry if I am being to messy, I had hard day today.

ColoredTwice · 2021-04-14T08:21:50+00:00

Women with CAH had high levels of testosterone before birth. After birth we just have virilization of body and sometimes more testosterone (I have, but it is due to mistreatment). We have excessive amounts of other androgenic hormones, but not too much.

We have high excessive amount of testosterone and other adrogenes if we are not treated properly or not treated at all, especially as infants (and it is deadly as well, previously mosly boys were surviving, as girls were getting same treatment as boys - and it was wrong one, so now doctors require extra tests to find are we male or female to save our lives - it was done with me, for example).

So if we are not treated or mistreated - we will have more testosterone, if we were treated well - everything is fine. I have issues, but they are connected with mistreatment - I was being medically "cured" from being a lesbian.

And it is women with LOAH who have higher testosterone levels even if treated well, but LOAH is like PCOS and is not intersex condition (even thought TRA are trying to make it one for decades now).

Here nice and neutral non-political medical article about my condition: https://www.yourhormones.info/endocrine-conditions/congenital-adrenal-hyperplasia/

ColoredTwice · 2021-04-14T04:49:25+00:00

Semenya has 5ard, not CAH. Males with CAH would look perfectly male, maybe shorter. Females with CAH can look more masculine, our testosterone levels are lower than ones of transmen, but often slighltly higher than norm, and we still can get pregnant, etc.

ColoredTwice · 2021-04-12T14:26:25+00:00

Thank you, I suppose.

ColoredTwice · 2021-04-12T12:51:50+00:00

Had a thread just about it today: https://twitter.com/Iamthisnotthat1/status/1381534827845935106

ColoredTwice · 2021-04-12T00:26:41+00:00

LGBT = Lets Glorify Beloved Trans.

ColoredTwice · 2021-04-12T00:26:18+00:00

LGBT = Lets Glorify Beloved Trans.

ColoredTwice · 2021-04-11T11:30:25+00:00

If he is so carying about crisis of violence - why he is so silent about trippled amount of female victims of domestic violence during lockdown? Or is he only care about people born male?

ColoredTwice · 2021-04-06T11:24:37+00:00

It was later in this this situation:

https://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/simple-bigotry-missouri-high-schoolers-walk-out-because-trans-student-wants-to-use-girls-bathroom/

Most news articles stood on a boy's defense and interviewed only him.

Some girls stopped doing sports afterwards, I don't know if all. It was 6 years ago.

ColoredTwice · 2021-04-06T04:44:24+00:00

When they said "transfer was received well" and meant only well for transgenders, but women weren't even asked.

Like in that article about 200 girls dropping sports and coming at meeting against twaw in sports - because boy comes there, says he is tw and showers with them. Interview there was taken only from boy and his mother, but never from girls or their psrents.

ColoredTwice · 2021-04-01T22:34:25+00:00

There is transgender-only rape relief in Canada, but can't be a single women-only ones? Women are in 85% victims of rape - yet we are not allowed our safe spaces and rape reliefs. Canada is full on MRA.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-31T22:15:19+00:00

And then they are saying they aren't troll and are want discussion and not silencing people who disagree.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-31T11:01:41+00:00

And speaking about this post topic - I can't even understand why trans ideologists are using us as cannon fodder - as in any case possible we are not proving anything.

As only very small amount of trans people are intersex.
Even if we are 3rd or 4th sex - it is not proving that one sex can be changed to other.
If we were "assigned wrongly", it is still was found because of physical complications and tests later, not based on our feelings. And, again - only very small amount of trans people are "intersex".

In no way it proves their point, but at same time dehumanizes us.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-31T10:48:51+00:00

I answered there around deletion time, so most likely no one read. Here my answer:

First of all, there never both gonades functioning. So we can't be "both". It is impossible - we are always either male or female. We never "both".

Assigning at birth was medical malpractice that was often leading to IGM. Nowadays a lot of where it is either outlawed or thought as malpractice and not encouraged.

Second - in USA there are transgender and non-binary people around 3-10 times more than all intersex people, so even if all intersex people would be trans - we would be minority there. And in reality few years ago only around 0.8-1% of intersex people were trans.

Lastly, knowing sex is very important for our treatment and to know what complications we can have later in life. My condition (salt-wasting CAH) in heavy cases like mine require to identify sex in first 3 hours of life, or toddler will die (or become disabled if treatment was too late or wrong). Previously only boys were often surviving with it, but girls dying - because our bigger virilized clitoris was looking "similar to small penis", so we were receiving treatment for boys (plus treatment for boys can wait up to 10-14 hours, while for girls only 2-4). And when medicine came to realization that we are just your regular females with virilized body - most girls are now saved as well. And speaking about genitals - no, my bigger clitoris is not "male genitalia". It works like any other clitoris, just bigger in size and it does not work like penis at all - I can't pee throught it, I can't ejaculate at all, and so on. I am your typical woman, just looking a bit more masculine. That's it.

Best description will be - we are like people with congenital heart disease, but instead of heart we have issues with sexual development. We aren't some mythical beast.

There 40 different DSD's under this umbrella. All very different.

Try following on Twitter @zaelefty (and his youtube channel), @AlexAlicit or @RaeUK for more details, they often discussing such issues and linking studies.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-30T07:20:51+00:00

When mother is taking medication or hormones it is not advised and sometimes prohibited to her to breastfeed the kid. Mother even can lose parenting rights in some situations. And here to just be able to emulate breastfeeding - father need a ton of dangerous medication and hormones. And yet it allowed, just because he is a man. Such unequal treatment towards parents.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-29T11:33:56+00:00

It would really depend on the specific intersex condition. It sounds like this documentary was an extremely unusual case

It was either misrepresenting the case or it was documentary about that one single case from 1800s which we know almost nothing and there genital mutilation took place, so most likely they mistreated someone and misjudged the condition after.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-29T11:25:20+00:00

First of all, there never both gonades functioning. So we can't be "both". It is impossible - we are always either male or female. We never "both".

Assigning at birth was medical malpractice that was often leading to IGM. Nowadays a lot of where it is either outlawed or thought as malpractice and not encouraged.

Second - in USA there are transgender and non-binary people around 10-20 times more than all intersex people, so even if all intersex people would be trans - we would be minority there. And in reality few years ago only around 0.8-1% of intersex people were trans.

Lastly, knowing sex is very important for our treatment and to know what complications we can have later in life. My condition (salt-wasting CAH) in heavy cases like mine require to identify sex in first 3 hours of life, or toddler will die (or become disabled if treatment was too late or wrong). Previously only boys were often surviving with it, but girls dying - because our bigger virilized clitoris was looking "similar to small penis", so we were receiving treatment for boys (plus treatment for boys can wait up to 10-14 hours, while for girls only 2-4). And when medicine came to realization that we are just your regular females with virilized body - most girls are now saved as well. And speaking about genitals - no, my bigger clitoris is not "male genitalia". It works like any other clitoris, just bigger in size and it does not work like penis at all - I can't pee throught it, I can't ejaculate at all, and so on. I am your typical woman, just looking a bit more masculine. That's it.

Best description will be - we are like people with congenital heart disease, but instead of heart we have issues with sexual development. We aren't some mythical beast.

There 40 different DSD's under this umbrella. All different.

Try following on Twitter @zaelefty (and his channel), @AlexAlicit or @RaeUK for more details, they often discussing such issues and linking studies.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-26T08:26:22+00:00

Intersex people are perfectly fitting that definition, as it says about body that is developed to support and produce gametes, not about gametes themselves.

Otherwise boys and girls pre-puberty, women after menopause, women during pregnancy and men after andropause would not be sexed too, lol.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-26T06:56:46+00:00

It was because of inability to classify people correctly or thinking that sex is a spectrum and people can be more or less.

If "maleness and femaleness" don't exist, then what that spectrum is at all? It makes no sense then. And how we can reproduce if there no males or females and we can't say who is who? And why 40 very rare conditions which are affecting very small percentage of people matters in this question at all?

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-26T06:49:40+00:00

Ah, I see.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-26T06:41:18+00:00

Wrong? Sorry, but I lived through this.

And if I am wrong - then how to become full female? Why am I less female? How my bigger clit is "more male" if it works 100% as clit and 0% as penis? How is it helpful to say to kids they are less female and how it will stop IGM, when it was THE reason of IGM?

And where exactly I am wrong? I am certain in everything I said - it is either lived experiense or medical fact.

I am rarely meeting so rude and unempathetic people, lol.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-26T05:53:40+00:00

Wtf is that link?

with genitals that seem to be in-between the usual male and female types—for example, a girl may be born with a noticeably large clitoris

The hell? How is it "in-between"?

My enlargened clitoris is just a big clitoris, it is in no way in between - it is just clitoris that is bigger than usual. That's it.

It can't ejaculate, I can't pee through it, it functions 100% as any other clitoris in any other female. The only difference is size.

or a boy may be born with a notably small penis

That is not intersex condition, by the way. And micropenis mostly showing up later in life - during puberty or later, not at birth.

Which variations of sexual anatomy count as intersex? In practice, different people have different answers to that question.

No? It is very distinct cases and it is important to know them for healthcare issues, as most conditions will have a lot of complications and some (like mine) are deadly if not being treated correctly.

Intersex is a socially constructed category that reflects real biological variation. To better explain this, we can liken the sex spectrum to the color spectrum

Are they are telling I am less female or what do they mean by "spectrum"? Like there "less red goess to yellow" there "less female goes male"? That is very dehumanizing and that is what was leading to IGM before. After scientists found that intersex people are ALWAYS male or female and that it is pretty easy to find out - IGM stopped in most cases, as now everyone knows that we are just same female as any other female (or same male as any other male) and that we don't need "fixing". And knowing biological sex started saving lives of people like myself - because boys and girls need different treatment and if it not received in first hours after birth - kid will either die or become heavily disabled for the rest of the life. And later in life we need different treatment and we have different complications. Other intersex conditions are most often are sex-specific and happening ONLY in females or ONLY in males.

So-called “sex” chromosomes can vary quite a bit, too.

Not very much, in 99.998% they are correctly showing sex. And genitals+chromosomes in 99.982% are showing sex correctly. So we are working with numbers like 0.002% and 0.018% of population.

But in human cultures, sex categories get simplified into male, female, and sometimes intersex, in order to simplify social interactions, express what we know and feel, and maintain order.

Wrong, it is done not for culture wise purposes or for social interractions, but for healthcare and correct treatment. And it is important - again, I'd be dead if in first few hours they would not do scanse to see if I am female or male. And this knowledge was needed not for "social purposes".

Also, are they saying that man with smaller penis is less man? Lmao.

So nature doesn’t decide where the category of “male” ends and the category of “intersex” begins, or where the category of “intersex” ends and the category of “female” begins.

So yeah, they see me as "less female". And how to become "full female"? I don't want to be lesser. And no one want - and it WHAT leads to IGM among youth, it what leads to big distress among intersex youth. THIS is VERY harmful. This site is very harmful towards intersex people, why it even have "intersex" in their name?

Some think you have to have “ambiguous genitalia” to count as intersex, even if your inside is mostly of one sex and your outside is mostly of anothe

If it is so - then only around 0.012% or so are intersex.

Some think your brain has to be exposed to an unusual mix of hormones prenatally to count as intersex

Then around 15-20% of population are intersex, mostly women with PCOS and women or men with LOAH (LOCAH).

unless your brain experienced atypical development

What does this mean? This happens almost never and this happens almost always not to intersex people, wtf.

Total number of people whose bodies differ from standard male or female one in 100 births

How they got this number? It is around 0.2%, a bit less by majority of studies.

If you add all their numbers, there will be even less than 0.2%

I guess it is because they included "Late onset adrenal hyperplasia (LOAH) one in 66 individuals" - which is not intersex condition and people with it are 100% typical males or females, and this condition is appearing only late in life, and just affecting slightly hormonal levels and mostly it is about adrenal glands not working properly. If LOAH is considered intersex - then PCOS should be too. Then intersex will be like 1/10 or 1/5 of population, lol.

It is VERY dangerous site to intersex youth.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-24T14:53:06+00:00

It is common propagandistic tactics - was always used in dictatorships and cults.

When USSR was "curing" me from my lesbianism, they were saying to parents that I will end up suiciding like many other lesbians (who mostly suicided BECAUSE of treatment or corrective rapes) if I receive no treatment. They were fearmongering them and saying same to me. I wss just naive teen who just wanted to be normal, so they did different therapies and in the end decided that I am acting too masculine, so must be a man - and put me on testosterone.

So it is very common way to control parents - scare them with suicide and remove kids from parents to propagandists (like we had pioneer camps, where were only few adult propagandists and we were not allowed to connect with parents for months).

And it all happened to me more than 30 years ago. Methods are never changing.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-24T12:36:17+00:00

It is impossible.

And imagining yourself as yourself is not a kink or paraphilia - it is the norm. In romantic scenes self-inserting yourself on a place of another woman as a woman is not strange either and is the norm.

If you mean women imagining themselves as men - then it is called autoandrophilia, but it is extremely rare one.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-22T13:10:45+00:00

When abortion is not a women's right, but "people's right" it always ends up with males controling female biology. The "average human" is always malecentric entity, or it is sometging that affects both males and females - so solves zero issues. Similar happening with FGM and libfem parties, they are starting to discuss only issues that are "affecting both women and transwomen" - so they are not talking about women's issues at all.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-22T10:23:02+00:00

Sex is not about gametes themselves, but about body that is developedto support one type or another.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-22T10:16:40+00:00

1

Then why only them, 0.6% of all people have such feeling, but not the 99.4%? There so many people in the world and humanity lived for millenia - someone from those 99.4% at least few times should be having such feel or mentioned it.

2

They would be surprised on how many women have at least partial dissasotiation with our bodies, especially during puberty. And it is not even speaking about victims of sexual assaults.

3

In my experience - only around 10-15% or less of women are liking dolls or/and pink. And maybe up to third girls and mostly only because they had no other choice.

I was playing soviet analogue of LEGO, for example, and liked cars (and grow up to be an engineer). Almost no girl in my childhood played with dolls, actually.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-22T08:55:55+00:00

To be honest it is unknown if he woupd be killed, they were only against homosexual transsexuals and some of SS officers had transvestite fetishes.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-22T08:40:04+00:00

That would make us "trans transwomen".

Hm. If transwomen wearing dress in Scotland are protected from being discriminated for this dress, but women wearing same dress are not protected - would we be protected as "trans transwomen"?

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-22T08:37:06+00:00

Reducing people to their body parts or functions is when saying "birthing bodies need abortion rights and menstruators need to fight against taboo around menstruation" - when it could be just said "females/women need abortion rights and to fight against taboo around menstruation".

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-22T07:14:42+00:00

they have this sense of self that we don’t understand or relate to because we aren’t trans

It always was confusing me: if they have some inner sense of being woman and feeling like a woman, but no other woman have it - aren't this means they are not a woman, as their sense of self is different to all women and separates them as a clear distinguished group?

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-22T05:43:43+00:00

It is like saying that human are bipedal is reducing humans to our legs.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-21T12:02:52+00:00

I did a bit exaggerated there, as mocking of "validation is lifesaving", sorry for that.

thrill

Not just that. Some women just want their own kid.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-21T11:58:36+00:00

Any definition must include first two points, thought.

Kids of both sexes pre-puberty are not producing any gametes.

Women after menopause and men after andropause are not producing any gametes.

Women's periods/menstruation is periodic and not dependent on our will releasing and maturing of an egg. So we don't produce them all the time (plus all our eggs we have from birth, so we not producing them at all, only releasing and maturing them one by one). And periods can be irregular because of nerves or health issues, periods can stop due to pregnancy, and so on.

So first two points MUST be included in definition of a woman and man, as 100% of men and women have first point and 100% of women have second point.

Around 15-25% of all women also have issues with health and need reproductive organs to be removed at one point in life.

So any definition must include point 3 as well - or up to 1/8 of population will be not defined.

I have strong feeling that people asking those questions are either males or very young females - so they have no idea about female anatomy at all and thinking that male anatomy is standart and is universal and that women's reproductive systems are similar to theirs.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-21T11:47:40+00:00

Are you not tired of asking this very same question every month?

The regular definition of sex is covering all those situations because first two situations are happening in life of ALL women, so obviously definition must include those situations (you are male, so you don't know this, right?).

Definitions are same old:

Male is an organism that is developing in order to support and produce small movable gametes.

Female is an organism that is developing in order to support and produce big immovable gametes.

Those definitions are including 100% of men and 100% of women, and even 100% of intersex people. Those definitions are broad and very inclusive. By them I am (intersex woman) is equally female as any other female.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-21T11:38:56+00:00

Success rate for uterus transplants natal women is only around 30-40% and this field is underresearched - as most researches are focused on men and male bodies. And yet they are focusing on males again even in uterus transplantation. And while uterus transplantation when researched for females can go up to 90% success, for males in best case scenarios it will be 5-10% success and 0% functional. For females it is often surgery that is needed to save life or help with pain, but validation of males seems to be more important. Society is so malecentric.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-14T23:40:52+00:00

Some of trans activists are saying that gay men are women and that lesbians aren't fully women (try searching: "Being gay is consolidation prize for not being able to become a woman").

Same conservative homophobia as before.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-14T23:37:27+00:00

Half of women would not be women even if combine all those definitions, lol.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-13T11:47:49+00:00

True.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-12T15:59:15+00:00

Remember that dictionary saying that "homosexual" is homophobic word?

And, I don't remember who, I think GLAAD said that "homosexuals is a slur and used as anti-LGBTQ+ phrase". Yeah, homosexuality is clearly makes TQ+ ideology look stupid, so they hate LGB.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-12T15:56:56+00:00

Only combination of letters "homos" is banned.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-12T09:55:08+00:00

That hormonal theory looked really weird.

Our bodies are different on the very basic level - hormones would not change the base. It's not like adding or removing hormone will change pelvis and joints placement and development - they are different in their core, in the very origin. So it is strange that such idea even existed for so long.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-12T09:33:15+00:00

By the society bisexual men are seen as homosexual and bisexual women are seen as heterosexual. So most likely bisexual men were just piled together with homosexual men.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-08T15:10:52+00:00

Transwomen-exclusionary Female-born lesbians.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-08T09:53:54+00:00

K-Pop are making lesbian-baiting often. By contracts k-pop stars can't date or marry any man, so they are often flirting with each other instead.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-08T09:48:54+00:00

LGBA need to rename to SuperLGB Alliance.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-08T02:32:14+00:00

Word "queer" is still used as a slur where I live against gay men, so when people want to troll or attack LGB person they can say "LGBTQueer community" and it can be already insulting.

It is mostly heterosexual men who are deciding how everyone is called in LGBT+, not LGB themselves.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-08T02:13:01+00:00

On Twitter and Reddit and maybe elsewhere - transwomen and just "queer" men are calling themselves "homosexual females" already, because "my legal documents showing 'F', so I am female".

They are taking any words we are using for ourselves. So there no way to call ourselves anymore. And if follow your logic we will be just changing word after word after word to describe ourselves, until language will run out of words. Same with our rights and spaces - they are demanding more and more every few months and some goverments are listening to them - so we will end up rightless if not stand up against. Running away and getting hits in back is not a way to protect ourselves from persistent attacker, not a way to win a fight.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-08T02:04:46+00:00

Lesbians saying this about trans movement for decades, but it need one straight white boy/man to kickstart pushback on transgender's infringement of sexual boundaries. Shows how women and especially lesbians are completely ignored by society.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-06T11:20:03+00:00

Have you ever saw a clitoris?

Penis and clitoris have absolutely different functionality and structure.

Do you think women pee and give birth through clitoris? That we shoot ova through it?

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-03T05:19:00+00:00

There still screenshots of Stonewall and GLAAD using this word in their messages about transwomen.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-03T05:18:09+00:00

This word was created by TRA to include transwomen into word "women" and now TRA figgting against it?

They are eating themselves alive.

Interesting note thatTwitch not removed this word when GC feminists were asking to remove it, but instantly removed when transwomen asked.

And their statement: "We consulted with LGBTQIA+ community about how to call women". Seriously? Why not consulted women instead? And why it goes like "we were deciding how you women, would be called" - such a show of misogyny.

And why there were never "Mxn"? Why only word "woman" is challenged all the time?

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-03T00:13:27+00:00

They are using us as canon fodder and "gotcha's" and they are really hurting intersex youth and dragging away funding from intersex organisations.

Most intersex organisations, who are not "transgender everything" - are asking for years to exclude us from LGBT+ soup.

Intersex people are only 0.2% or less of population, with ambigious conditions being only 0.018% - so there are a lot more transgender people than people with DSD.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-02T07:22:21+00:00

Trans transwoman!

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-02T07:11:52+00:00

That just not true, "sex spectrum" model solves nothing and just othering intersex people like myself, and hurting intersex youth. Sex spectrum is saying that I am less female and more male or that I am "other, third sex". There only 0.2% of intersex people and only around 1-1.5% of intersex people are trans, so "sex is a spectrum" does not help to transgender people at all (as almost all of them are unambigiously male or female - both physiologically and raised socially as such), but hurts intersex people a lot.

Binary sex is much better, because it is saying that every variation is equally valid, that I am same female as any other female, not "less on spectrum scale". Plus - why use for humans different scale and classification than to every other creature on Earth? Humans being special and above nature sounds like religious belief, tbh.

Second reason why "spectrum" is not solving anything, is because in every single case where sex matters - matters real sex and not "where on scale" it is and not "what gender you are". With my condition (SW CAH), after I was born, if I don't receive correct male or female treatment (they different) - I would die. And later in life I need to receive special treatment based on my sex, or I will get sick and die. And complications are different for each sex, so doctors must know what to expect as well (like I got "Secondary PCOS" - not sure why it called like this in English, and I need to take birth control pills to normalize hormonal levels and periods, but males would have different complicationsm like low fertility sperm, etc, and they will need to take different medicine). For transgender people sex matters a lot, because majority of health issues and treatment they must receive are sex based as well (as even with body alterations, majority of their bodies are still works as their birth sex, not as their prefered gender). And not aknowledging it can be deadly, I know one transwoman died by insisting on receiving same treatment as females, and there a bunch of cases when transmen risked their lives by writing their sex as "male" - as example here. Division by sex is very important in healthcare, sports, safeguarding, safe spaces, some statistics, feminism, shelters, parental rights and some other topics. And "spectrum" not works in any of those situations, because "less male on spectrum" is still male and have typical male body structure and parts where it matters, even if some other parts of their body are a-typical.

In every single other situation sex (and gender) should not matter AT ALL, because if it matters - it is called sexism. Treatment of issues and of people should be the very same regardles of their sex (or gender) everywhere but in few topics named above, where sex matters.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-01T00:35:51+00:00

That study was so wrong, they measured there not clitoris, but vulva. And women there were "aroused" even for animal pictures.

Just shows that testers had no idea about female sexuality and pleasure at all.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-01T00:33:43+00:00

Because bi female is seen as "straight with benefits" and bi male is seen as "just homosexual".

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-01T00:31:07+00:00

It is said for same reason why no one believes that female homosexuality even exist and why up until 1930s it was believed that women have no libido at all.

ColoredTwice · 2021-03-01T00:29:17+00:00

Narcissism means that they empathise with people less and that others are just substitutes to them and not real persons.

Because of this - I see nothing strange in increased crime rate.

ColoredTwice · 2021-02-24T15:36:02+00:00

Hm, that will be tricky, I don't remember where I got source. I hope Zach have somewhere among threads.

ColoredTwice · 2021-02-20T04:58:44+00:00

99.982% to be precise. Total amount of intersex people is around 0.16-0.2% of population and amount of intersex people with ambigious genitals or missmatched chromosomes are just 0.018%. If taking into account only genitals, then around 0.009-0.01%. So in 99.991% cases genitals = sex. And in most of cases just few extra tests needed to determine. It is around 3000-30000 or less people with DSD per country (depending on population of it). There much more transgender people than us.

Almost none of intersex people are trans (same percent as in general population), so I don't understand why we even being mentioned. We are not connected to this issue in any way and our problems are completely different.

We do not want to be called third sex, other or "less female/male". We are the same as everyone else, just with congenital problems with sexual development - like people with 6 fingers, or people with congenital heart disorders, and so on. We are neither lesser, nor "other". Othering hurt us and leads to IGM and mistreatment.

ColoredTwice · 2021-02-18T09:10:47+00:00

So everyone will be asking why there is a dog and forget main complaints.

ColoredTwice · 2021-02-16T12:49:55+00:00

gamete on spectrum

What about 8 gametes?! Clownfishes never even dreamed about such diversity!

https://twitter.com/Iamthisnotthat1/status/1361257104942784512

ColoredTwice · 2021-02-16T12:09:06+00:00

Same as with other people, 99.99% of transgender people would have XX of they were born female and XY if they were born male. Maybe 99.95%, because of modern intersexphobia and all this wording like from WPATH (who called women with CAIS - "mutants") and "less female" - young people with DSD and their parents may be pushed to do IGM to become not "lesser female" but "fully transman", for example.

Chromosomal anomalities are all sex based as well.

I don't understand why this even dragged on into discussions about transgender people - we are not related in any way. And we are not proving any point either. We are just dragged along.

ColoredTwice · 2021-02-16T09:42:09+00:00

Body is not changing at all structurally. Bones are still placed and jointed differently, lunghs and hearts are still bigger, muscle mass in percentage to weight is still bigger, estrogene and progesteron are not started being produced on its own, and so on. There are too many structural differences on a basic level between male and female bodies.

what about people with chromosomal abnormalities regarding the sex chromosomes

Chromosomal anomalies are happening more rare than in 0.01% of people. Most of us aren't transgender and most transgenders aren't intersex. So sayingg XX/XY or just speaking about SRY gene alone is enough to determine sex of 99.9% of all people. And in 0.01% our bodies are still developed to support either male or female gametes, even if we are most often infertile. Infertile woman is not a man.

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