Philosophy Tube is coming out as a woman. Do heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals & bisexuals in the LGBTQ movement yet?

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[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 10 insightful - 8 fun10 insightful - 7 fun11 insightful - 8 fun -  (12 children)

The only trans I ever known in real life was homosexual. He was effeminate till very young. Of course, something makes me wonder whether the fact he is from some little sicilian town where homosexuality isn't welcomed, has to do with not just being gay, but it was always effeminate by nature, way more feminine than me. The way he moved her ass was better than 90 percent of women. That's was real effeminate brain. And as usual, real effeminate brain are homosexual.

[–]ColoredTwice 29 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 0 fun30 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

No man can have hip sway like woman, we have biologically different bones in that part. Our pelvis is much more wide than men's pelvis and leg bones are connected into loose joints on bigger angle, while men's are connected on fixed joints on much lower angle. When woman makes one step - pelvis on one side goes down and forward, on other side goes up and backwards because of that, so each side makes full circle. When man makes a step - pelvis and leg bones are not moving at all. That is one of reasons why men are much faster at running - just bone structure already making it easier to walk or run to them, and it is not even counting more strenght they have.

That is why it is almost always easy to distinguish between man and woman gaits. Transition "to other gender" is not changing pelvis, joints and bones - so everything is staying same as of a man.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 2 insightful - 7 fun2 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 7 fun -  (6 children)

His hips where wide, He had pear shaped body and feminine movement and mannerism. It was so natural to him. He couldn't act masculine, since he was very young kid, always into dressing as a woman. That was natural femininity. And in fact he was homo, not hetero.

[–]ColoredTwice 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

What you described is just performative - it has nothing to do with skeletal structure. We can't change how our bones, joints and skeletal structure are. It is just how two sexest are born - it is inherent structure of our bodies that is different between sexes and can't be changed. Even muscles around our hips are placed differently in men's and women's bodies. There a lot of such small differences which are structural and can't be changed.

Same as lungs or hearts of same size and height man and woman would be different size and shape. Men's would be bigger/larger. This can't be changed by taking cross sex hormones or by "performin femininity". It is just basic structure of body.

Here, short video someone recently posted about gait and pelvis bones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEZrNLagwls

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Could be Klinefelters

[–]ColoredTwice 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It could be, but I doubt. It rare condition and among people with DSD only 1% or less are trans, so it makes such situation even less possible.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 2 insightful - 7 fun2 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

I never said he had female body. I said he had natural female mannerism. Very extremely feminine. He was extremely young when it started to show such femininity. He couldn't be done on purpose. It was his nature.

[–]ColoredTwice 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You are saying that "acting like female" and "feminine mannerism" is biological? It kinda...sexist - against this feminists were fighting for decades, as women can be different and we are not some sexist stereotype. While TRA now are trying to say that all sexist stereotypes are natural and biological.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

All women are different, that's doesn't means masculininity and feminity cannot be innate. There are biological sexual difference. TRA don't accept a masculine woman or a feminine man. This you must fit the stereotype or behaviour expected by your sex. It's very different thing.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It sounds like you met the opposite type of who I met then :) I've met some effeminate gay men (as acquaintances) and you could tell they were effeminate in how they communicated and behaved. Not exactly like women but women like. I imagine your friend would have been at the extreme end of that. And that is what I though all trans were like. It shocked me when this guy came out, I was puzzled because they weren't effeminate, most of their friends were guys, they liked doing the same stuff as your average guy. That twigged me onto Blanchard's typology and I realised the source of distress for this person came from a very different place to your friend.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I got to know a real trans. The harmless one who is a female best friend because he acts a lot like a girl and would never fit with guys, not the perv presenting as a lesbian.

[–]SnowAssMan[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Practically every culture outside the West labels their homosexual population something other than man or woman (because of their reproductive centred gender roles I guess which gay people fall outside of), then our Western eyes look at the phenomenon & deduce that they are "transexuals", "women", "third gender". Even though 100% of them are gay & half of them are masculine-presenting. Just more of this gender-obsession erasing gay people basically.

Only Western cultures produce the autogynaephiles, the heterosexual ones who tend to be the most dogmatic, insisting that they are literally, biologically the same as women. Probably because the middle-classes tend to be neurotic.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, westerners can't seem to wrap their heads around the fact that words like "third sex", "two spirit", what have you, were historically used to ostracize and dehumanize homosexuals. Not as progressive as TRAs would have you believe.