Women's IssuesWhile it’s been a long time coming, I think it’s safe to say that Arielle Scarcella has now officially peaked the hardest.

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[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 36 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 0 fun37 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Unfortunately this will be used to maintain the facade that genderism vs. anti-genderism is a liberal vs. conservative debate.

Being anti-woke and anti-genderism does not make me not liberal. It makes me actually liberal and not regressive. I have liberal values, not authoritarian ones.

[–]BusterGrundle 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

You can't decouple liberalism from authoritarianism anymore, that ship has sailed unfortunately.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Hard disagree since I manage to not be authoritarian just fine. Not that I get the impression you commented in good faith.

[–]BusterGrundle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Of course there are exceptions, but authoritarians have taken over the party. You're well in the minority now. We're here because we committed thought crimes against the left and they banned our subs from reddit.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ok but you’re conflating liberalism and the Democratic Party. I agree that the latter is abandoning liberal principles.

[–]BusterGrundle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They're redefining it, just like they redefine everything else :-/ I consider myself a classic liberal but I don't think that's going to mean anything much longer.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 25 insightful - 9 fun25 insightful - 8 fun26 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

<3 <3 I'm in love <3 <3

We're totally wrong for each other, Arielle and I, but I can't help it.

[–]SpatOuttheKoolaid 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Whereas I disagree on some of her points (I'm not pro Trump) I'm very grateful she's speaking out.

[–]julesburm1891[S] 26 insightful - 2 fun26 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I’m not in love with Trump either, but I’m glad someone is pointing out the Democrats are talking out of both sides of their mouths when it comes to women and LGB.

[–]Shadow_Lurker 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

This is not surprising.

Even the 'truscum' that she used to promote ended up discarding her after she, let's say, outlived her usefulness. No wonder she now has adopted the fuck it all position.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

And she was so supporting of transes, and still is, trying to not be "TERF". Her friend trans even made video "she is not TERF and she is supporting of transes, but she has a right to say no to penises".

Looks this trans issues are same duality as politician parties in USA - either fully on one side, or fully on other, no middle ground or different opinions allowed.

[–]Shadow_Lurker 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

So she didn't learn anything...good to know.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe she did, just don't want to get cancelled and lose monetization. Seems she mostly care about her income. As she even openned OnlyFans "for straight men, as they are majority of her viewers", while she is "lesbian channel".

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Wait, the truscum abandoned her? Why?

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

They piled on her about being transphobic when everyone else did because she said that lesbians don’t like penises, and they said she has always been transphobic. They claimed she used them. More like the other way around honestly. It’s Dan Radcliffe and Emma Watson 2.0.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Of course. No surprises there. That’s why I don’t trust them. I don’t even trust Blaire White or Buck Angel.

[–]Shadow_Lurker 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Some even came with shitty sob stories about how 'creepy' she was and other stupid nothing burger shit.

And guess what? Amongst the 'truscum' that discarded her was the two lesbians that were larping as gay men, you know, the ones who only got a platform because of Arielle? How ironic...

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yuck. I have never heard of a trans person who didn’t have a mental illness besides gender dysphoria.

[–]peaked2020 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I’m surprised that she’s become so right wing. She was definitely not a trump supporter even a year ago. Then again, they have been the ones who have been willing to listen to her while the left has thrown her out...

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I saw on few other youtube channels recently, one was made with much more quality than their average videos and it was said "vote for Baiden" in the end, other was similar but with "vote for Trump".

Arielle videos are much worse edited, her camera and microphone is cheaper one. So most likely it is paid advertisement, or even if it is not paid - it is done in some other studio on other equipment than her usual videos for free.

she's become so right wing

She seems to accept almost everything right wing now, she started shooting with guns, be pro-corporations and openned OnlyFans account.

I hate this complete duality in american politics. There literally monopoly on power of two parties with no other choice. People can't even chose which candidate they will have from parties.

[–]Happy_face_caller 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

What the hell did I just watch? She wants roe v wade overturned ans is happy about coney barret who wants to overturn Gay marriage? She went passed peaking, she’s extreme right. Whoa

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

I've found that a lot of younger people are in favor of phasing out abortion, especially since there are so many options nowadays (condoms, birth control, IUD, plan B, multiple options to have non-PIV sex, ovulation-tracking apps, ovulation strips, etc). That's the argument I get from the gen Z'ers in my family. They say we have so many choices, why not try to reduce both unplanned pregnancies and abortion numbers moving forward by phasing it out as an option of convenience? (i.e. only keep it for when the mother's life is in danger, but phase it out as a form of birth control so that people will be more likely to rely on the other kinds).

We really do have way more information and options now than we did when Roe v Wade was first implemented in the early 70s.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If only that was working, especially outside of USA ("Trump anti-abortion coalition"). If only on this were spent money. You know, teach kids first about sexual education, make birth control very accessible and advertise it, and only then think on removing abortions - not other way around.

Plus we should not forget that removing safe option of abortion will only increase illegal unsafe abortion rates - as it happened throught out a history in many countries, including USA.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Another point to bring up is that another debate surrounding abortion is how long into the pregnancy is it allowed. In some US states, a woman can have an abortion up to 24 weeks if she wants one. In Ireland and most other European countries, it’s only legal for the first 12 weeks, and after that, only if the pregnancy could kill or seriously injure the mother or the baby.

[–]Happy_face_caller 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That sounds absurd

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We really do have way more information and options now than we did when Roe v Wade was first implemented in the early 70s.

(The following is mainly addressed to these sorts of GenZ-ers, not necessarily you, Accio)

Just who is the "we" here, and in what sense does that "we" "have" any of these things?

I'm assuming that this "we" means, if not "humanity in general", at least "the western (and specifically American) public as a whole". And that "have" is shorthand for "have access to, as a result of these things (information/options) being known to exist".

So... is knowing that a given thing exists really the same as having access to it? You know that a million dollars exists, right? Does that mean you therefore have access to a million dollars? That you're a millionaire?

Closer to home, how about medical technology? If you know that a given treatment for cancer exists, but you can't afford it (and no one will waive the cost or fund it for you), do you nonetheless have access to that treatment? In what sense?

But how does this apply to contraception? It obviously isn't so expensive that only millionaires can afford it. Why doesn't its being known to exist effectively translate into access, then?

Because Roe v. Wade rests on the right to privacy. Ergo, overturning Roe means that there is no such right.

Griswold v. Connecticut also rests on the right to privacy (and originally established it; this is the precedent case for Roe). It found that government restrictions on married couples buying, and using, contraception are unconstitutional.

So if Griswold goes... governments will be free to restrict access to contraception even for married couples. Including (as with Connecticut at the time) prohibiting contraceptives altogether.

"Oh, but I'M not married, though! I don't even believe in marriage! So it wouldn't apply to ME." What makes you think that if contraception is outlawed for those having the most acceptable-- indeed, officially-approved and even REVERED!-- form of sex, an exception will somehow be carved out to accommodate YOUR fornicating ass?

"Oh, but no government would REALLY do THAT." Wanna bet? Lots of 'em are openly-- even loud-and-proudly-- anti-abortion, right? Well, for decades now, most who oppose abortion have also viewed contraception as a form of abortion. Sure, I understand that the GenZ-ers probably don't; so what? How many state legislatures and governorships do THEY control?

And this isn't even getting into the issue of reproductive coercion, where attempts to use birth control are deliberately sabotaged by people one knows (often on the "keep her barefoot and pregnant" model).

I wonder how much of this who-needs-abortion-anyway attitude among young people comes from: 1.] the trans war on human biology in general, and women's biology in particular; and 2.] GenZ hardly having any sex (so this is all just an abstraction for them).

Ironic that I, no longer in my reproductive prime, am more concerned about this than those who are (and will be for decades more). Both GenZ women under threat of forced pregnancy... and non-gay GenZ men under threat of shotgun marriages and being financially responsible for all the unwanted offspring they can't avoid conceiving.

But given where things are probably headed, I guess that they're gonna just have to be like the protagonist of "Citizen Kane": "he needs more than one lesson... and he's going to get more than one lesson."

TL;DR: if GenZ-ers (or anyone else) think that contraception means no longer needing abortion... think again.

[–]zerosis 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, I'm glad she's speaking out about gender identity politics but the anti-abortion stuff is really fucking weird to hear from a feminist.

[–]Happy_face_caller 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As a fellow Lesbian how is this at all our place to make these comments? I’ve spent my adult life supporting het women and their reproductive rights, I have no concept what this burden would be like snd I challenge anyone who thinks they can gatekeep a woman’s choice in this situation. Arielle seems likely she’s gone fanatical conservative right? I mean wtf

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t agree with everything she says, but fair play to Arielle Scarcella for speaking her mind. And you know what? We don’t have to agree on everything. We already agree that men and women are different, that same sex attracted people should not be erased and should have the same rights as everybody else, a successful woman can have any opinion she wants, and that extremism can exist on the left as well. So good on her for speaking her mind.

[–]LeaveAmsgAfterBeep 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’m not sure what her real opinions are on anything, honestly. I don’t view her videos as authentic, after years of her social media wavering I trust her less than ever. It doesn’t mean she’s bad, she’ll get shit no matter what and I respect that she still speaks out. I just ... hate some of her videos and think they’re gross, weird, inappropriate, etc and also seen her flip flop so much at this point.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So, she's now supporting anti-abortion religious nut-job? Seem like an extreme to the other though. Us lesbians don't have to care about unwanted pregnancy, unless we unlucky enough to be raped, that doesn't mean we don't support fellow women and their utmust human right to control their body and not be forced to share their organs.