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[–]MarkTwainiac 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

We did not adequately vet her background before formally hiring her.

LOL, how can this be? How can an internet company not think to, or know how to, use the internet to do some basic searches to vet prospective employees?

The whole sad, ugly story of the weird, rapid rise in UK politics and to national prominence of Ashton Aimee Challenor was well documented in British media sources, all of which are widely available around the world. Since the dominant language in the UK and the USA is English, reddit admins wouldn't even have needed to use a translation app to get the dirt on Ashton Aimee.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They knew. There are way too many TIM friends as admins and mods.

This announcement means nothing at all.

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I wonder? Do you think there's enough TIMs on the mod team that they managed to keep it under wraps from the heads at Reddit? Think there'll be even more blowback against the rest of the TIM admins who helped keep this under wraps?

[–]jjdub7Gay Male Guest Commentator 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, no need to keep it under wraps when this is the end-game of a huge portion of tech actors. See Twitter's refusal to take down child sex abuse material posted to their site.

[–]BEB 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (34 children)

Damn - I was hoping this scandal would continue to explode and Peak Trans all the Reddit woke beardy dude bros who scream "transphobia" at just about everything.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Yeah there doesn't seem to be any recognition of the role gender ideology has played in Aimee Challenor's rise to prominence. A few people are pointing out that 'she' has 'weaponised transphobia' but the general consensus is that Aimee is an aberration and not a symptom of a systemic problem. No one's making a connection between the banning of all gender critical subreddits and the adoption of people like Aimee into Reddit's fold. People are just acting like it was some big oversight on Reddit's part.

[–]EveSerpent[S] 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ashton is the one who got them banned in the first place. It’s truly sad how people are believing Reddit’s statement that they didn’t know who he was, when they so clearly did.

[–]MarkTwainiac 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, there's no way reddit didn't know who this guy is.

[–]BEB 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think, though, there's probably a % of people who are starting to see a pattern w TiM activists, which will eventually lead to them peaking. See all the woke beardy bro US journalists now starting to peak (I will do a separate post on this).

[–]EveSerpent[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I’d like to read this, it sounds hopeful

[–]BEB 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I did a stand alone post that I think you'll find informative.

It's amazing to me that all these primarily male journalists, who were kind of passive gender ideologists (except that they'd always stand up indignantly for TiM demands over women's rights) are now Peak Transing rapidly, and all because one of their own, Jesse Singal, is being gender mobbed.

Watch though, they will still not come out as Gender Critical, because bros before hos, even to men who claim to be feminists.

[–]dreamgerms 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. There are even people in the comments saying stuff like, “fuck transphobes”, as if that is the important take-away here.

[–]just_lesbian_things 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, but they definitely recognize that he is male. Reddit bros are never this respectful of women when scandals break out, even when the woman in question was not at fault. This guy is a total piece of shit and there isn't a single rape threat or even a sexist comment in sight.

[–]ZveroboyAlina 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He is still called "she" and they are blaming "women" and not saying that this guy is transwoman - male and not a woman.

Just saw this comment about situation on Reddit:

[...] A terrible terrible women was allowed to climb so high, that everyone could see her and all of her evil enabilism.

[–]jjdub7Gay Male Guest Commentator 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nope. They'll just continue claiming that "Jeffrey Dahmer was just really hungry." with their fingers in their ears LA LA LA LA.

[–]EveSerpent[S] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

I know, right? But pretty much all of them were referring to him as “she”, so who knows if all/any of them even know he’s a man.

This should come back to bite Reddit’s ass when they go public this year though, so we'll see what happens then.

[–]BEB 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

Since r/GenderCritical got shut down, I don't spend much time on Reddit except for a science sub, but whenever I do stray, it seems that Reddit posters are 1 billion % behind gender ideology, even the most rational.

I'm assuming it's because they're young and indoctrinated, but surely there must be older people on Reddit who think it's bullshit? I've just never seen any of them - maybe their comments are deleted?

[–]Cass 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I'm still on reddit and think it's bullshit, but I'd never comment bc I don't want my account to get suspended. I was already banned form one of my favorite subs.

[–]BEB 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

So you think that some Reddit posters don't speak out for fear of being banned or mobbed? Because Reddit posters whole-hearted embrace of gender ideology had me really depressed for the future.

[–]Cass 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, I am 100% sure there are more people like that. You can see for yourself if you go to the conservative subs. At least r/conservative and r/jordanpeterson are the only subs I've seen people referring to the pedo as "him".

edit: that being said, I wouldn't bring it up irl either. Even my best friend was horrified when I said TIMs aren't women.

[–]jjdub7Gay Male Guest Commentator 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

edit: that being said, I wouldn't bring it up irl either. Even my best friend was horrified when I said TIMs aren't women.

Yep, women aren't "allowed" to acknowledge this. However, men are, so I make sure to mercilessly and obsessively whenever the lie rears its head.

[–]EveSerpent[S] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Some people of varying ages can see it, but yes censorship & banning is Reddit’s default mode. It’s a misogynistic/porn-loving/proTIM cesspool that needs to die.

[–]BEB 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

These young guys posting on Reddit - the ones who claim to be Leftists - are they pretending to be feminists as well as trans fans? What I mean is that do these men just not see how women's rights aren't compatible with trans' demands, or do they see it and just not care?

[–]EveSerpent[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Personally I only go to women’s subs, so I can’t comment much on what the guys are thinking. When they send me harassing PMs, they certainly seem hostile to women’s rights/women in general however.

I do find that there are women of varying ages who see this crap for what it is. Hints are dropped where possible but outright conversations are disallowed by Reddit.

[–]BEB 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

So creepy that women aren't allowed to talk about women's right on the world's largest online forum (I think?). How the F did we get here?

[–]EveSerpent[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Big money behind the TIMs and an already woman-hating population ready to eat their misogyny up.

[–]BEB 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But women - There are women in power now, why the F aren't they fighting back?

[–]ZveroboyAlina 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I afraid that many of them are in power only because they were pandering to men, so they were allowed to gain power. Otherwise they would be shut down and their raising would be much harder.

[–]EveSerpent[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

An excellent question. Sadly girls & women are still brainwashed into male worship and people pleasing with surprising rigour. Add in the ever-present notion that a woman’s worth is predicated on marriage and reproduction, and the result is a terrible mind set. Women that have the strength to defy all of this are few and they get targeted for being brought down. It can be enough of a struggle just for her to hold her own, let alone fight against violent TIM misogyny in her own workplace. We need more women in power to combat all of this. Strength in numbers.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

There are still women's subs on reddit?

[–]Gender_Critical 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"Women's."

[–]EveSerpent[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Some are managing!

[–]NeedMoreCoffee 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

sorryImNotNativeEnglishSpeaker #EnglishIsOnlyMy4thLanguage #kustzedwazekalle

[–]EveSerpent[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes. Most are small and fly well under the radar. One is large and the TIMs try to get it banned, but they continue to fail. For now.

[–]jjdub7Gay Male Guest Commentator 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

not see how women's rights aren't compatible with trans' demands

This isn't the only example of leftist contradiction, either. Another well-touted trope is that "all cultures are equal", including unreformed Arabic Muslim cultures which execute gays and (actually, brutally) oppress women.

See: "Islam is right about women" troll campaign

[–]NeedMoreCoffee 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think most just do not realise what is going on.

The superstraight thing proved it to me that so many guys were completely oblivious to the mess this is and how much lesbians were being harrassed.

They hear transwomen and think of someone that looks like blair white but who had full sex bottom surgery who gets beaten up for just going to the store.

[–]kuronekochan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They don't voice any criticism, however gentle, because their accounts will be banned.

[–]jjdub7Gay Male Guest Commentator 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Reddit implemented sitewide bans on "misgendering" a few months ago, extending the threat of banning to any subs perceived to be 'sympathetic to transphobia'.

So the expressed levels of trans support really don't reflect the actual opinion of the user base - granted, there is certainly a bent towards support.

[–]Gender_Critical 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is absolutely obvious that the individual in question is a male to anyone that has seen his photo. Not shocking that this person's partner is a pedophile fellow diaper fetishist.

[–]SnowAssMan 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

What? Reddit fired Aimee??? Reddit is transphobic! If any sub had done this, we all know it'd get banned. So when can we expect r/announcements to get banned for being exclusionary, or whatever?

[–]MarkTwainiac 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Meanwhile, reddit won't let me delete my account. I've tried a dozen times in the last day, but each time I get a message, "Oops, something went wrong. Try again later."

[–]MarkTwainiac 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

[–]ZveroboyAlina 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

her

[–]Liz-B-Anne 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Everybody's soooo disgusted at this situation, yet when I comment anything about this scumfuck having a hand in banning the GC subs, they tell me to "fuck off TERF trash" like the good little cultists they are. They refuse to make the connection between the trans who run Big Tech and censorship of anything that goes against their neoliberal Newspeak 1984 capitalist hellscape. So overit.

Speaking of which, does anyone have an invite to ovarit? Mine expired. I'd be forever grateful.

[–]Gender_Critical 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fuck reddit. It still sounds that they are defending him. I don't see ANYWHERE that they are condemning his actions or beliefs. My guess is that he is buddy-buddy with one of the power mods.

[–]WildApples 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. Notably, Reddit's statement seems to suggest that they still view posting links critical of Challenor as "vehicles of harassment." While I give kudos to the subs for standing their ground and putting pressure on Reddit, this is purely a symbolic and vague mea culpa. I would not be surprised if Challenor is still working for or with Reddit anonymously behind the scenes under a new username.

[–]jjdub7Gay Male Guest Commentator 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We did not adequately vet her background before formally hiring her.

Uh, I'm willing to bet the "background" was considered a resume point in the actual hiring process.

I'm also willing to bet they actually fired him because the "heavy-handed algorithm" bit was a complete and total lie and this histrionic TiM did typical histrionic TiM things and manually went scorched earth on each and every post/user he could find talking about him.

Creating an algorithm to load and read weblinks and cross reference against a list of Reddit employees would be a huge project and a huge computational drain. So either they had a pre-loaded blacklist of links (e.g. Graham Lineman's blog post) or this demented individual was scouring individual posts with SQL on the back-end with their newfound admin powers (or likely both).

[–]Daraincork 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lies from start to finish . The whole fiasco is an example of their standards. Of course they know all about this damaged and deluded young man , his paedophile adjacent partner and convictced child rapist father. Presumably he and his friends were responsible for banning so many feminist , gay and detrans sub-reddits. The proof of the pudding is in the eating.If r/ gendercritical returns there might be some substance to this twaddle