"Survivors Must Fight For Trans Women Too" (as an aforementioned survivor, this made me so angry!)

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[–]GConly 50 insightful - 3 fun50 insightful - 2 fun51 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

For Suzie*, a trans woman and a survivor, her experience of domestic abuse included physical assaults and threats from her partner that she would lose her home and children if she started living in her affirmed gender.

So, his wife threatened to divorce him and kick him out then?

Women can be abusive, but to me this sounds more like a woman who has no intention of being a TIMs wife and having her kids calling their AGP dad mummy.

Forty-nine percent of women killed by a partner or ex-partner are killed less than a month after separation.

By their penis having ex partner.

When ‘feminists’ like J.K. Rowling declare themselves to be the ruling authority on both, they violently exclude trans people.

And there we go, women disagreeing politely is violence.

[–]MezozoicGay 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just the same old song, I've read so many times "in 5000 cases of domestic abuse, one abuse was done by woman, so woman abusing man!" when it was written not sarcastically by people.

[–]RevengeOfTheCis 37 insightful - 4 fun37 insightful - 3 fun38 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Just once I'd love to see a headline like "Trans Women Must Fight For Cis Women's Right to Maternity Leave, Too" but that's never gonna fuckin' happen.

[–]SharpTomorrow 30 insightful - 1 fun30 insightful - 0 fun31 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nobody is owed activism. This is how feminism degenerated into some vague stuff about all possible struggles. women don't have to fight for tra degenerates.

[–]MarkTwainiac 29 insightful - 3 fun29 insightful - 2 fun30 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

TL;DR goes like this:

"Female survivors of male abuse have a moral obligation to put their own needs aside to take care of men who've also been abused by men. Women's failure to center men in everything we do = abuse towards men. Women who do not prioritize men and do whatever men tell us we must do are committing violence against men."

[–]chrysthefeminist 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If abuse towards men is women's failure to center men in everything we do, then there's no reason to oppose abuse towards men.

[–]Jamiethiel2018 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And "abuse" towards men justifies male violence against women.

[–]motionlessoracle 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"If you're <x>, you must fight for <y>, too" is just shinier packaging on what women heard during the second wave feminist movement: "Ladies, you have to wait your turn. There are more important issues right now."

I actually don't have to fight for <y> in order to fight for <x>. I can put allllll my energy into <x>.

[–]firebird 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sixteen percent (likely more) of trans women have experienced domestic violence in the last year alongside 7.5% of cisgender women.

Clear bias. If you can recognize that the percentage for transwomen might be too low, you should recognize the same for everyone else.

These factors are evidenced in the vitriolic campaign against trans women, where the existence of trans men and non binary people has been all but forgotten.

Have they even quoted a transman or a non binary person themselves, though?

[–]Jamiethiel2018 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

l believe this is the study. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0886260514556767 If I'm understanding the introduction: It compares "Cis" LGB people to trans people, NOT "cis" women across the board with transwomen. Also, how many of said survivors are transmen?

I'm pretty skint, so can't see the read the entire study.

[–]Lemonade_Masquerade 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fuck you for taking advantage of victims of male violence! We don't owe you shit. How dare you try to gaslight us and then claim it is righteous activism.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

"Ladieeees, make room for the boys!"

[–]Amareldys 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I mean... I'm all for people building shelters and providing support for transwomen who have been raped.

[–]greenish[S] 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So am I, but which people should be spending their time, energy, and money doing that? And should women who have been raped or provide services to other women who have been raped have to prioritise them, even at their own expense? Services for women who have experienced rape and domestic violence are already incredibly underfunded and overstretched.

[–]Amareldys 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Whoever wants to do it should do it.

[–]VioletRemi 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Situation with VRR showed that activists just want to invade women spaces, not have their own shelters or get any help at all for their brothers (I mean transsisters).

[–]Jamiethiel2018 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Breathtaking DARVO. The utter gall! Can it get more obvious, rape, sexual assault , child rape & assault either never happen, or if they do it's their fault, and if they're not responsible, it's no big deal. Ever notice the sentencing gender gap?

[–]greenish[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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