Electromagnetics Expert breaks down Graphene Oxide in the Vax, and the Successful 'Delgado's Bull Brain Control Experiments.' from the 60s. by coffee_addict in conspiracy

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This video is a Dustin Nemos interview of Ginny Silcox, a researcher focused on electromagnetics with respect to medical devices. It's possible to pick up a deep understanding of the human body and medical diagnostics from this kind of work.

At about 30:25 she mentions different stages of the 3rd phase of the vaxx clinical trials that we are currently in. She thinks that different groups have received different jabs at different times, and that it has all been meticulously recorded. She "knows" that the control group got saline. She proposes three stages (so far):

stage 1: mRNA nano-lipid -- spike proteins manufactured stage 2: non-magnetized ferritin (iron) -- magnets stick to the body stage 3: magnetized graphene oxide (superconductor) -- steel sticks to the body

This would explain why we are observing different outcomes. Vaxx stages are not the only source of variability, but they would be a major one. Not being aware of the possibility would certainly confuse any conclusions drawn from observations -- any generalizations need to be more qualified.

Most of us know about the effects of toxic spike protein, so I won't elaborate.

The second stage's ferritin particles tend to clump, hence more clotting. Being iron, they interfere with the ability of hemoglobin to pick up oxygen. Too much iron in the blood can cause heart attacks. The graphene oxide of the 3rd stage has only recently started to be found. These particles clump as well, but being magnetic they end up getting attracted to areas of nerve conduction: spine, heart & brain. Why are children suffering from enlarged hearts? Maybe because their 3rd stage injections congregate around the heart.

G-O also makes an excellent antenna. Since the nano particles of both ferrous injections can penetrate the brain, Silcox thinks that the magnetic ones can self-assemble there. Specifically along the caudate nucleus, which winds around both hemispheres.

What happens when you hold a cell phone up to your head that contains two antennae? The video includes a scene of Jose Delgado's charging bull experiment from the 60s. The bull is stopped in its tracks with EM signals directed to receptors implanted in its brain. The signals can also induce rage. This is terrify stuff. Imagine 2,000 antifa wired for rage.

Dr. Ardis and Dr. Carrie Madej learn from Karen Kingston, what's REALLY in the C19 vaccines! by coffee_addict in conspiracy

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Dr. Carrie Madej did another couple of videos where she talked about the strange things she saw under the microscope when analyzing drops of the Pfizer vaccine. One was a parasite that assembled itself and another was something that assembled itself into long strings: https://rumble.com/vn482j-dr.-carrie-madej-first-u.s.-lab-examines-vaccine-vials-horrific-findings-re.html and https://www.bitchute.com/video/2EXu0Zb9xLWP/

Another researcher, Dr. Botha, found weird rings that self-assembled: https://rumble.com/vnbgal-never-before-seen-blood-doctor-reveals-horrific-findings-after-examining-vi.html

Karen Kingston confirmed that everything Dr. Madej and Dr. Botha saw was real! Kingston found the patents for the weird stuff, and the patents included pictures that matched Dr. Madej’s and Dr. Botha’s pictures. She even found a video from Rice University explaining one of the technologies!

Karen also talks about several other disturbing patents she founds tied to the covid injections. They talked about how this was a spiritual war and that the devil is trying to steal us from God by altering our genes to make us no longer human.

It is a little over two hours long, but definitely worth your time.

Dr. David James Carswell, my father, died of "COVID". by JasonCarswell in CriticalThoughts

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I know I am super late to the party. Sorry about that! I am just now seeing this post (since you had linked to it in a common you'd made to me). I am so sorry about your father passing, and also sorry to hear about your being cut off from your family.

I know these are random questions, but are you a Capricorn? The astrology of Capricorns is they all had at least 2 or 3 very hard years around 2018, 2019, 2020, but depending on your specific chart, the hard years may have started as early as 2008. Hopefully, this year has been a good year for you, despite covid. You deserve some breathing room!

Next random question is do you know that a parasite called Toxoplasmosis causes mental issues? This article only addresses schizophrenia, but it causes a bunch of disorders, including bi-polar disorder, depending on which part of the brain it settles in. The reason I chose this particular article is because it points out that toxoplasmosis is carried in the sperm, and 50% of the offspring of an infected male carry it. This is why mental illness appears to be genetic. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/03/how-your-cat-is-making-you-crazy/308873/. I suspect that one of the reasons Daraprim and Ivermectin have been demonized is because they help cure mental illness, or at least stop it from getting worse. Big Pharma can't sell all those psych meds if people realize the true cause and cure of their issues.

Finally, I would strongly recommend a book called The Dance of Anger by Harriet Lerner to help you learn ho to rebuild your relationship with your mother and siblings. It is a short, easy read and will change your life.

Dr Reiner Fuellmich - Videos Of Forced COVID Vaccines In Nursing Homes & We're Dealing With Homicide by JustLookDontDismiss in news

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Sorry for the late reply! This is my alternative account and I've mostly been using my primary account lately. Amen!!! I just logged into this account to post a video compilation about two different researchers finding parasites in the covid injections, some people warning of the NWO plan to take over our brains with parasites, some predictive programming clips that accurately show what is happening now, and lastly Klaus Schwab talking about how humans are going to merge with AI. Whoever compiled it did a great job of connecting the dots. The NWO cabal is evil.

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Sorry for the late reply! This is my alternative account and I've mostly been using my primary account lately. I am so sorry to hear about the loss of your father. I hope every doctor who kills covid patients when they could have effectively treated them are punished.

My 87-year old father got the Moderna vaccine and wound up in the hospital by coffee_addict in whatever

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Amen!

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Sorry for the late reply! This is my alternative account and I've mostly been using my primary account lately. I am so sorry to hear about the loss of your father. :(

I have no faith in government altruism any more. It seems to me that virtually everything the government does to try to "help" people makes things worse. They have a sinister agenda and use deception and fear to push that agenda.

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Sorry for the late reply! This is my alternative account and I've mostly been using my primary account lately. Amen to everything you said!

A Very Compelling Compilation of Video Clips of Franc Zalewski, Carrie Madej, Pierre Gilbert, Vexille, Prince, Amaranthe, Viachelslav Krasheninnikov, Erica Mukisa, and Klaus Schwab Proving Covid is a Guise for NWO by coffee_addict in whatever

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TLDR + Time Stamps:

Franc Zalewski -- 0,00 14:35 - He is a scientist who found parasite eggs in the vials he tested. He watched the eggs, and parasites grew out of them within 4 days. The parasites are carbon and aluminum based and colorful. Also tested the testing swabs and see they are spiked in order to collect DNA. Why are they collecting our DNA?

Carrie Madej -- 14:36 - 27:47 — She tested a doctor who tested a vial and actually watched a parasite grow in a few hours as she watched under the microscope. It was also multi-colored.

Dr. Pierre Gilbert — 27:48 - 28:53 — a clip from 1995 where says "In the biological destruction there are the organized tempers on the magnetic fields. What will follow is the contamination of the bloodstreams of mankind creating intentional infections. This will be enforced with laws that will make vaccination mandatory. And these vaccines will make possible to control people. The vaccines will have liquid crystals that will become hosted in the brain cells, which will become micro receivers of electromagnetic fields, where waves of very very low frequencies will be sent. And through these low frequency waves people will be unable to think, you’ll be turned into a zombie. Don’t think of this as an hypothesis… this has been done. Think of Rwanda."

Vexille — 28:54 - 30:46 — Predictive programming — an animated show from 2007 that exactly describes what is going on now with the government faking a pandemic, implemented an isolation policy, and mandating vaccinations that turned out to be a cyber-virus that altered the molecular structure of the body’s cells and converts them into biometa, essentially turning us into machines from the inside out, with no way to stop it. The vaccine was administered early in it’s experimental phase. When it did work, the virus progressed through the body until it reached the brain and we become perfect androids under the manufacturer’s control.

Prince song New World from 1996 —30:47 - 31:16 — predictive programming — “when you want to find some isolation, but the tracker you got from vaccination keeps playing ‘you’ll never walk alone’, they’re always listening, especially on the phone, when the lines blur every boy and girl, How we gonna make it in this brave new world?, The tracker you got from vaccination,

Amaranthe song Digital World from 2014, 31:17 - 31:49 — Predictive programming — Male “I am the voice of the next generation” Female: "completely digital create synthetic auras” Male:"start a revolution now” Femal: you will never have to cry cause the future is sold, you can never die and you’ll never grow old but everything surrounding you is digital. Never break the mold, you do as you’re told, freedom is for sale if you give them control, erase return in the digital world"

Viachelslav Krasheninnikov — 31:50 - 32:37 — a clip from (1982 - 1993) where this woman recounts a conversation with Slavochka (a Russian prophet), who talked about chipped humans. They are not even human anymore, they are completely controlled through the computer. People will be chipped against their will and the chipped won’t be able to die. The police will be looking for the unchipped. Christians will have to stay away from the roads to avoid detection.

Erica Mukisa 32:38 - 39:12 -- She was a third generation sorcerer who fled. She recounts what Lucifer showed her. She talks about a certain technology given by the enemy to humanity at the expense of their souls. She talked about designing sickness that are kept in incubators and spread them via food and vaccines by organizations that seem to be for humanity, then design solutions for the sicknesses that cost a lot of money. Role models, such as celebrities and media houses, movie and music studios, humanitarian organizations, are secret satanists. The devil is beautiful, which is why it is so easy to deceive people. He uses a certain family with a certain bloodline to advance his agenda (Rockefellers). This family is the one who both makes and supplies money. They decide who gets to be rich, who gets be be celebrities, and what news is reported, and the news is not necessarily true.

Klaus Schwab (head of the World Economic Forum and from the Rockefeller family)— 39:13 - 39:40 — “At the end, what the 4th industrial revolution will lead to is a fusion of our physical, our digital and our biological identities."

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My dad lives in an assisted living facility and he was coerced into the vaccine. He did consent, technically speaking, but he was told that he'd never be allowed to leave his room again if he didn't take the vaccine -- never get steroid shots for his debilitating pain, never see his kids again. He has a history of anaphylaxis reaction -- and the facility was well aware of that -- and they forced him into it, anyways. I swear, since COVID started they have literally been torturing my father... simply because he's old

Here is a post I wrote about it: https://saidit.net/s/whatever/comments/7bsn/my_87year_old_father_got_the_moderna_vaccine_and/

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny Explains How the Depopulation COVID Vaccines Will Start Working In 3-6 Months! by christnmusicreleases in conspiracy

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OMG! Dr. Tenpenny just explained what happened to my dad! https://saidit.net/s/whatever/comments/7bsn/my_87year_old_father_got_the_moderna_vaccine_and/

She said that the vaccine essentially turns off the type 2 microphages. So type 1 microphage come in and cause inflammation, then type 2 microphage go in behind type 1, tell type one to stop inflaming and then type 2 cleans up the inflammation mess. This explains why my dad is still in the hospital after 11 days and isn't responding to the antibiotics.... type 2 macrophage have been disabled!

My 87-year old father got the Moderna vaccine and wound up in the hospital by coffee_addict in whatever

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Thank you so much for all the awesome suggestions! I will check them out for him and for my mother-in-law!

My 87-year old father got the Moderna vaccine and wound up in the hospital by coffee_addict in whatever

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That was my point. We need to value the people who care for our elderly more. We should have always been paying them more and not making them work crazy hours. There should have always been enough staff on duty for each shift to fully meet the residents' needs without relying on the families to come in and help. The system was totally broken before COVID, but thanks to COVID, we can no longer turn a blind-eye to the broken nature of it. As a society, we need to re-examine our values.

My 87-year old father got the Moderna vaccine and wound up in the hospital by coffee_addict in whatever

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My dad does have a flip phone with him in the hospital. We tried to get him a smart phone a couple of years ago, but he refused to use it. We also tried to get him an iPad, but he wouldn't use that, either. :/

I hope to God that there is massive backlash against the government for what they are doing to old people, including prosecutions! It's horrifying!

My 87-year old father got the Moderna vaccine and wound up in the hospital by coffee_addict in whatever

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We are looking into suing the government for the ridiculous mandates that they are placing on facilities. But it turns out, suing the government isn't easy. We're hoping someone else starts a suit that we can join in.

My 87-year old father got the Moderna vaccine and wound up in the hospital by coffee_addict in whatever

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Why didn't you answer my question? Do you think it is okay to torment old people as long as they don't die?

My 87-year old father got the Moderna vaccine and wound up in the hospital by coffee_addict in whatever

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This story made me tear up. Especially because I know there are many more out there who are just like her. :(

My 87-year old father got the Moderna vaccine and wound up in the hospital by coffee_addict in whatever

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Thank you! I tried very hard to not be discredited as a drama queen.

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I am sorry about your grandfather! I know my dad is freaking out about being alone in the hospital. I hope your grandfather is emotionally ok. I will send prayers that he gets what he wants: if he wants to live, that he recover and get released soon, and if he is ready to pass, that it is quick and peaceful.

My 87-year old father got the Moderna vaccine and wound up in the hospital by coffee_addict in whatever

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Thank you. I'm definitely not calm or neutral, and I am glad that I don't sound like a raving lunatic!

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Are you saying that it's ok to torment old people as long as they don't die? Very humanitarian.

My 87-year old father got the Moderna vaccine and wound up in the hospital by coffee_addict in whatever

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I wish it was fake. It's very real.

My 87-year old father got the Moderna vaccine and wound up in the hospital by coffee_addict in whatever

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Thank you.

I am seeing things from your perspective more and more. In all honestly, I was all for the state forcing him into a facility because he was a danger to himself. But eventually I realized that he didn't want to live in a sick body anymore and he was deliberately choosing risks. The last two years he has literally been tormented "for his own protection," when the reality is that he is ready to go. I realize now that we can't let the state take anyone's sovereignty away.

I just watched a video where the speaker was talking about how we, as individuals, need to change our perspective on sovereignty in order to break free of government control. She said something along the lines of "if you are 45 years old and have always lived in your parents basement and been neglected or tormented, you probably have Stockholm syndrome and are afraid to leave. But once you realize that you can get out that window and don't, you are now a participant in your own neglect/torment. You have to overcome the fear and climb out the window." She starts speaking at 1:30:32. Her talk is 20 minutes, and I am not sure when exactly she makes that point: https://odysee.com/@theconsciousresistance:7/The-Greater-Reset-Activation-Day-2--Health---Education:0

My 87-year old father got the Moderna vaccine and wound up in the hospital by coffee_addict in whatever

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Yes! I think my dad's co-pay for that nursing home was $200 per day. He could have been in a hotel with a caregiver checking in on him several times a day for that price. And that was CO-PAY. I want to say medicare paid something like $1200 a day -- and they ignored him. I want to know where the money goes, because it doesn't go to the staff.

My 87-year old father got the Moderna vaccine and wound up in the hospital by coffee_addict in whatever

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The "evil fuckers" are the government bureaucrats who created these nightmarish guidelines. I guess I should be pointing the finger of blame pointed at them.

Here is a copy/paste of what I wrote above: nursing homes and assisted living facilities relied heavily on family members to come in and help put. Those facilities are thinly staffed with grossly underpaid workers. Once the family members weren't allowed to help out anymore, the workers could't keep up with the work-load. That is why my dad was so severely neglected in the nursing home -- since he never actually got sick, it was easy to forget about him when there were so many very sick people there that needed urgent care.

The people at the facility that my dad lives in are nice people who are trying their best given the horrid regulations that have been straddled on them by the state. Not only has their workload gone up because of the families not being able to help out, the new guidelines create a lot more work for them. For example, now they have to deliver meals/pick them up from each room. Much more work than having everyone eat in the dining room. The staff are all working massive overtime and are exhausted. They are desperate to reduce their workload. They are desperate to have their residents be happy people who can go out and do things like get pain shots. They don't like dealing with crabby and depressed people. I can see why, when told they can't re-open without full vaccine compliance, they would push my dad.

In their defense, they had an epi-pen ready and waited with him for 1/2 hour to ensure that he didn't have an anphlaxic reaction right then. In their minds, they did everything they needed to do to ensure safe administration of the vaccine and I am sure it never crossed their minds that the reaction would take a different form at a later time.

One more thing I want to mention is that my dad did not choose to move into an assisted living facility. The state of NV told him he wasn't allowed to live alone anymore and basically forced him into a facility against his will. That was almost a year before the COVID crises hit, so almost 2 years ago.

My 87-year old father got the Moderna vaccine and wound up in the hospital by coffee_addict in whatever

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Thank you for all the info! I am looking forward to checking it all out, and especially to reporting it. I tried to report it on the VAERS page of the CDC website when he was sick and dizzy, but that day the site was down. I haven't checked back to see if it is working again.

My 87-year old father got the Moderna vaccine and wound up in the hospital by coffee_addict in whatever

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My dad had an anaphylactic reaction to an antibiotic and to a drug that helps control your bladder. He's kill me if he ever found out that I disclosed his bladder control problems! ;)

I agree with everything you said, and I want to emphasize the points that you made. From what I have seen, the bureaucrats have doubled-down on the systems that were already in place and were already broken. Before COVID, it was easy to turn a blind-eye to the cracks in the system, but now that so many are affected so deeply, the cracks are too numerous and big to hide them anymore. I'll give a specific example to help clarify that very vague statement: nursing homes and assisted living facilities relied heavily on family members to come in and help put. Those facilities are thinly staffed with grossly underpaid workers. Once the family members weren't allowed to help out anymore, the workers could't keep up with the work-load. That is why my dad was so severely neglected in the nursing home -- since he never actually got sick, it was easy to forget about him when there were so many very sick people there that needed urgent care.

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Thank you!

Update 2 on my 87-Year Old Father who had COVID-19 by coffee_addict in whatever

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Thank you. That was a very interesting read. I understood most of it, though quite a few things were unclear to me as a foreigner. The Hospital and Health section is disturbing because much of it HAS happened in the US, just slightly later than predicted... which is another clue that our agenda from the PTB is the same as Europe's.

Update 2 on my 87-Year Old Father who had COVID-19 by coffee_addict in whatever

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I tried 4 different translators and all 4 of them did the same thing: translated the top potion of the article to A.Memo. From there on out, it translated from Greek to Greek. That is super weird. I know someone who is from Greece, so I sent it to him and asked him if he would translate it for me. From the top portion, it looks VERY interesting and I am eager to read the rest. I hope he gets back to me soon. Thank you for sending it over.

HR 6666 TRACE Act Utilizes Vague Language, Making It Easy For Authorities To Abuse Power. Please Sign This Petition Opposing This Bill. Even If You Are Pro-Contact Tracing, You Should Demand The Bill To Be Revised With Clearer Guidelines by coffee_addict in politics

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I know, right? This whole situation has really made me re-think culture and society. There has to be a better way. Every system of governance we have floating around is seriously flawed: capitalism, libertarianism, socialism... Each sets up one group or another to exploit the rest. There has to be something else, something that will actually work for everyone. I have no answers as of yet, but I know we need to figure some out -- and fast.

HR 6666 TRACE Act Utilizes Vague Language, Making It Easy For Authorities To Abuse Power. Please Sign This Petition Opposing This Bill. Even If You Are Pro-Contact Tracing, You Should Demand The Bill To Be Revised With Clearer Guidelines by coffee_addict in politics

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I am so sorry to hear about your grandma. I think the hardest thing for my family to deal with was not being allowed to physically help my dad and physically comfort him. I am guessing that is the same for your family. I am working on an update on my dad now, though I may wait to post it until the riots die down. He is out of the nursing home, but things aren't much better back at his assisted living facility. "I'm sure everyone's response was worse than getting sick" Yes... my dad is old and ready to die. He would have welcomed getting COVID-19 and dying so he could be free of his sick body. He said this "for your own protection" is the worst thing he's ever gone through in his 87 years of life.

HR 6666 TRACE Act Utilizes Vague Language, Making It Easy For Authorities To Abuse Power. Please Sign This Petition Opposing This Bill. Even If You Are Pro-Contact Tracing, You Should Demand The Bill To Be Revised With Clearer Guidelines by coffee_addict in politics

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The wording on the petition is not the best because it makes it sound like the sole issue is tracing and testing. But for me, I’m more concerned about the vagueness of the wording. Even if you think tracing and testing is a good thing, the vagueness should give you pause; it will be easily abused by those in power. HR 6666 allows for: • Forced entrance into home without a warrant based on suspected exposure • Indefinite quarantine based on suspected exposure with no test needed • Unlimited number of times that you can be quarantined • There is no definition of “contact,” so they can lock you up if your cell phone indicates that you passed someone infected on the other side of a major highway • Due to HIPAA privacy laws, they can’t tell you who may have infected you, so “exposure” can be easily fabricated • No exemption of people who have antibodies to COVID-19 • While this bill does not require people to be removed from their homes for quarantine, it doesn’t prohibit it either. There will be a lot of people who will be abused in quarantine facilities, just like my dad was

To me, HR 6666 feels like a pretense to lock-up political dissidents.

HR 6666 TRACE Act Utilizes Vague Language, Making It Easy For Authorities To Abuse Power. Please Sign This Petition Opposing This Bill. Even If You Are Pro-Contact Tracing, You Should Demand The Bill To Be Revised With Clearer Guidelines by coffee_addict in politics

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My dad tested positive for COVID-19. He was imprisoned in a nursing home against his will for 22 days, where he was neglected to the point of abuse, despite the fact that he was a-symptomatic. His health is now far worse as a result of these "protective measures." It took serious fighting on my part to get him released: https://saidit.net/s/whatever/comments/46zk/update_on_my_87year_old_father_with_covid19/ People are incredibly naive to think that the state knows what is best for each person's life. To the state, you are just a number and personal details don't matter. I guarantee that if this bill passes, horror stories like my dad's will become common.

HR 6666 TRACE Act Utilizes Vague Language, Making It Easy For Authorities To Abuse Power. Please Sign This Petition Opposing This Bill. Even If You Are Pro-Contact Tracing, You Should Demand The Bill To Be Revised With Clearer Guidelines by coffee_addict in politics

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I am certain that the vast majority of money budgeted in this bill is slated for surveillance technology. If it was a bill saying all the money was going to testing and medical care, I would support it.

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Here is another video from someone who took the contact tracing course. It gives a clearer picture of what this bill will look like in use: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFUyZWw7qoc

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Thank you so much for posting the video! It's very helpful. And let's be clear, the CDC itself says that 35% of people who get it are a-symptomatic, and of the 65% of people who do get sick, only .034% of them are actually dying of COVID-19: https://web.archive.org/web/20200521203901/https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html This disease is not serious enough to justify these draconian measures.

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It is very suspicious that her department approved human trials of the COVID-19 vaccine way earlier than normal... and, according to RFK, Jr., her husband is one of the ones who will personally financially profit on it: https://www.spreaker.com/user/12468106/ep-18-robert-bobby-kennedy-jr-joins-the-?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=user%3A12468106&utm_term=episode_title

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I am real. :)

My goal was never to change anyone's mind, it was just to start a conversation to get us all thinking more strategically about the bigger picture. And you and I are probably both thinking more strategically as a result of our intellectually stimulating conversation. I confess that my view is myopic because I am in the middle of it. It's great that we can agree to disagree on points and still talk about how to make the world a better place re: the things we agree on.

We do have something in common! We were both pushing for practical solutions for virus control and we both failed. I was trying to get hand washing stations set up around my community, like at the bus stops. They are only $100 each, so I figured we could GoFundMe and set up as many stations as we raised money for. I ran into several roadblocks and no one was willing to join forced to help me get them set up. Since homeschool takes up most of my time, I didn't have the time/energy to keep pushing for them.

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I know, this has gotten time consuming. My son keeps asking why I keep taking school work breaks to type on the computer!

So for clarification on this: "The majority of people dying are over 80, and I am guessing that my dad and his girlfriend aren’t the only old people who are ready to go. Was saving them worth destroying our economy over?" I don't want to make it seem like I was advocating deliberately letting people in facilities get sick with coronavirus. I wish the government had thought things through better before putting regulations in place. In my mind, they could have thought through more make-sense solutions in order to keep the economy going. For example, the virus spreads most indoors, especially on public transit. I think the government should have immediately set up hand washing stations outside of buildings/public transit stops and required that everyone wash their hands before entering a public building/transit and wear a mask while inside. I feel like all retail stores should have been allowed to fill orders called in/ordered online and people could pick them up, much like take-away food,rather than shutting them down altogether. The excuse for crashing the economy and throwing millions of people into permanent poverty was to "save lives," But the lives they are saving is mostly of those who were going to die soon anyway. I guess what I am saying is it wasn't worth destroying the entire economy to save the lives of the elderly; that more make-sense solutions should have been implemented.

As for the rules of living in home: If my sister or I had the "right" kind of home (one story, modified for a handicapped person with wide doors, walk in shower with no step, etc) and we could afford to pay for 24 hour live-in care (which runs about $10,000 per month), NV would have let him live in our home. But neither of us had the right home or budget to allow for that. I am pretty sure CA has similar rules, too, but I can't speak for any other state.

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"Yes, you were advocating killing old people, please own up to it. " We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I think giving the old person an option to live their life the way they want, even if it risks their own health, is humane. You see it as murder. Fine. You are entitled to your perspective, as I am entitled to mine.

"And you were trying to put others at risk by attempting to make the facility take your father against their wishes, please own up to that too." Please copy and paste where you think I wrote this. I think you have mis-read what I wrote. What I said was we considered it and realized that was a bad idea.

"And maybe accept that you feel guilty about your Dad's situation, and that the loss of his sovereignty and how it's impacted him isn't really related to the current crisis, which has only served to highlight a problem that was already there long before." DING DING DING! I am trying to highlight how the system is broken and doesn't necessarily protect people in a way they want to be protected.

"And it sounds like you're still minimizing the costs to others. The high cost of taking care of your father has to fall on SOMEONE, whether or not it's a high cost." What does that mean?????????

"Why post to SaidIt? Why post this at all?" One of my best friends thinks this is a discussion we need to have as a society and she pushed me to post this. And I like SaidIt. It's my favorite social media site. Obviously, I am violating all kinds of HIPPA laws for my dad and his girlfriend, so I have to post it anonymously.

"Why is the post so heavily tied to covid, and so un-tied to discussion about assisted suicide legality?" It's not ONLY about assisted suicide, it is about the sovereignty and rights of old people. The horrible, horrible situation that my dad is living through right now is a direct result of the state forcing him into Assisted Living against his will. I want to highlight how much he is suffering and deteriorating in a situation that is supposed to be for his own protection. I am not mad at either the Assisted Living or Convalescent Homes. Both are doing their very best, but they are seriously restrained in their ability to properly care for him because of these "protections."

"haha covid's all a hoax let's reopen no there's no real risk nevermind anyone who might get hurt by it they're just wrong" line of argument." I already said very clearly in the comments what I think of the situation. I will copy and paste here: "I don't know what to think about the virus itself, and I certainly agree that the severity of the virus/pandemic situation has been wildly overblown. They have taken away our civil liberties, put millions of people into permeant poverty, permanently closed many small businesses while making oligarchies like Amazon more powerful, devalued the dollar so even those of us still working have less purchasing power, and given away billions of dollars in tax funds to businesses that didn't need it/had a long history of irresponsible spending."

"I don't think old people should live in care-homes, personally. I think it's the responsibility of the family to take care of them." I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the state of Nevada disagrees with you on that one. They believe that once old people get to a certain point of deterioration, they MUST be in a facility.

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The first time was dementia. He forgot he had it on. :( The second time he was unconscious. They have life alerts now with motion sensors that automatically call 911 when they detect a fall. We were looking into getting one when the state intervened.

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The reason I posted this is because I wanted to start a discussion about old people's rights. Currently, old people have no sovereignty. In his state, assisted suicide is illegal, and the state won't let him do anything risky that would allow his life to end. And in their zealousness to protect him from this virus, they have destroyed the tiny remaining bits of quality of life had left. Is forcing someone to live in extreme pain and isolation really "for their own protection?" Especially when they no longer desire to be alive?

I appreciate you opening the door to a calm and rational discussion. I was my dad's primary caregiver for 7 years. My sister took over last year because I had a breakdown because I just couldn't do it anymore. Is it moral for me and my sister to sacrifice devoting time and energy to our husbands/children for our father? Should we rent a home that is suitable for my dad to live in and live partly with our own families and partly with him? Should we not help our kids keep up with their school work so we can change my dad's diapers and meet all of his others needs? Should we sacrifice our own ability to retire someday by spending every penny we have on his care now? Clearly, you have never been a caregiver of a very sick person and have no idea the extreme amount of physical and emotional sacrifice the caregiving job is. Anyone who chooses that for a career is an angel.

What do you think I said that indicates I am advocating "for killing old people?" I would like a cut/paste of whatever gave you that impression. I have a feeling you have misread what I have written. If not, maybe I could clarify, because I am not advocating "killing" old people, I am advocating that they be allowed to live as they see fit, even if it means that they risk dying. He never should have been forced from his home by the state in the first place. I am certain he would have fallen and died shortly after being released from the hospital, but it is how he wanted to die. And now that he's in Assisted Living, he's trapped in a system he never wanted to be a part of, living a life he doesn't want to live anymore.

I find it silly that you have decided that the reason this COVID situation sucks for my dad is because I am not bluntly honest with myself about the reality of my dad's situation. It sounds a bit unhinged, and I would like you to elaborate on what exactly you meant.

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I honestly don't know. I gave up on main stream news years ago, and I figure out what MSM is saying from my friends/family who parrot back what their favored news station told them to think. Now that you mention it, now that we are in lock-down and I am not dealing with many people.... I don't think any of them are Fox fans.

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If you haven't heard this interview with Kris Newby, who wrote a book about Lyme disease, it is well worth your time: https://www.peterbcollins.com/2019/08/06/in-depth-interview-author-kris-newby-and-prof-mark-crispin-miller-talk-about-chronic-lyme-disease-and-its-likely-origins/

I found it here on Saidit a few weeks ago. VERY interesting. Her research indicates it is probably a bio-weapon that escaped, and some organization patented the disease, so now there is a medical cover-up because no one in the medical community wants to pay the patent fees. Doctors lose their licenses for diagnosing Lyme, even when there is no doubt whatsoever that it is Lyme. It really brings to light how broken our society is when doctors are bullied into not properly treating patients to save a few bucks. And how a disease can even be patented in the first place.

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That is really interesting about the herpes connection. I also heard that people infected with herpes are more prone to migraines. The reason you can't keep it from nursing homes even with crazy draconian measures is because all these old, sick people have many essential doctor appointments. It is the only thing my dad's Assisted Living Facility would let anyone out of their rooms for once the lockdown started in mid-March. The doctors/nurses/office staff are the ones most exposed and the ones spreading it around the most... the doctor/nurse HAS to get very close to you to take your blood pressure, listen to your lungs, and all the other standard things done in order to properly check you out. My dad's girlfriend got it from the one and only time she went to the doctor. :( She recovered, though, and she is 83.

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They did have some ugly outbreaks in a few nursing homes, but so did the US despite the ultra-draconian measures. Most of the people dying world-wide are over 80 with underlying medical conditions... maybe Mother Nature didn't intend for people to live so long and dying in a few days of COVID is more merciful than living a life devoid of quality?

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My dad has always been a ladies man. I thought he'd slow down in his old age, and he has, but not much... ;) The convalescent home is the one collecting the $ right now, and they don't want to keep him. They need his bed for genuinely sick people. Since he's in a COVID wing, he will be replaced with another equally lucrative COVID patient.

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Is this one better? https://summit.news/2020/04/29/who-flip-flops-now-endorses-swedens-no-lockdown-policy/

My take on the article is that WHO wouldn't endorse Sweden's approach if natural herd immunity were not possible. And herd immunity comes from developing antibodies; once those antibodies are developed in your own body, you are no longer a carrier for that virus.

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Smearing my character does not justify your lack of reading comprehension skills. Re-read the sentence. It says the nurse at the assisted living facility didn't specify what her guidelines are, she simply claimed they were DIFFERENT. Then she said that the ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY now requires two tests. The nurse never actually claimed the CDC requires two tests, though she attempted to imply it with the preface that the guidelines were not the same for convalescent and nursing.

And I am still waiting for you to cough up some verified facts, buddy. Don't even bother to play these propaganda games with me anymore. Bring some FACTS to the table before you comment again.

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No, once you have antibodies, you are no longer contagious. There was a study about it in Nature Medicine Journal: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0897-1.pdf

FYI: The antibodies making you unable to carry/spread a disease is why vaccines work for creating herd immunity. With all the talk of a COVID-19 vaccine coming, it stands to reason that Science wouldn't be going down the vaccine road if people were still contagious once they have antibodies.

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Once again, if you SAY it's CDC guidelines and don't provide proof, all you are doing is spouting propaganda. If what you are saying is factual, you will be able to find the source of this fact. You are deliberately attempting to make me look like some bad guy bully because I am citing accurate CDC information and all you have is propaganda. I DARE YOU to prove me wrong with SOURCED FACTS.

The Assisted Living Facility is a chain. They have gone over and above CDC guidelines by a wide margin. And I totally understand why: the tests have proven to be inaccurate, the info out there is conflicting and seems to change daily, and without accurate tests/consistent info, they are terrified of a break-out in one of their facilities and being put out of business. They are erring in the side of caution to the extreme.

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My dad had one of those life alert things. He had two ER runs where someone found him on the ground, wearing the necklace, button not pushed. The second time he almost died, and that was the turning point when the state intervened.

The two-weeks contagious period was my understanding when my dad went in. The convalescent home says the CDC guidelines is people are only contagious for one week when someone is a-symptomatic (as my dad is).

I think much of the confusion surrounding the testing is the fact that is a test for any coronavirus strain, not specifically the Covid-19 strain.

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The convalescent home will allow us to take him home. I talked to his social worker, who said that she can make a special exception that he will not lose his benefits if we take him home temporarily. The problem is logistics. He is a 200-lb four month old infant in terms of his abilities to do things. He needs to be in a one-story home with no steps at all (he can't do steps), and he needs all kinds of special equipment in order to deal with him -- bed rails, potty chair, walker (he could take a few steps with a walker prior to the convalescent home, but he unlikely can't walk at all anymore due to muscle atrophy), wheel chair, stand up shower equipped with hand holds and detachable shower head, lift chair, special straps to help get him in and out of bed in addition to the bed rails... and there is much more. It's a long and expensive list of equipment to buy, especially for a temporary living situation. He is way too much work for me and my sister, especially because we have kids of our own and are homeschooling. The social worker said normally they would pay for someone to come and help us, but they will not send a helper for someone who is COVID-19 positive... they don't want to put the worker at risk. And those in-home care workers cost $30 an hour, so we can't really afford it.

Also, want to add that I am not MAD, I am FRUSTRATED. I get that everyone is doing their best in an unprecedented situation. And hopefully, you are starting to see why my dad doesn't want to live like this anymore. He hates being so needy. He hates that he can't dress/undress himself. He hates wearing diapers. He hates not being able to get in and out of bed alone. He feels like this is not quality of life and doesn't understand why the state is forcing him to live like this "for his own protection."

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You are 100% right on the money with that comment.

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I don't know which test they are using, but I am 100% certain it is not an antibody test.

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Thank you! I posted this because I feel like we need to broaden the conversation about rights vs risk, particularly for the elderly. My dad has no rights anymore simply because he is old. I now think he should have the right to live -- or not live -- the way he wants to. I feel terrible that wasn't my mindset a year ago when he was first forced to Assisted Living. Edit: I guess what I am trying to express is that we need to demand a re-evaluation of the definition of what "for your own protection" means, and who gets to make that determination.

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I actually hadn't thought about that. But given that the media is all about pushing the "Coronavirus is dangerous and we must protect the vulnerable," I can't see them wanting to cover my dad's story. edit: The reason my dad's being mishandled is because of fear. Everyone is in a panic and they are trying to look like they are protecting him and the general public. The guidelines that have been enacted (isolation, which is how they punish prisoners due to the negative psychological consequences, not letting him go to the doctor for a pain shot, not letting him get out of bed, which is causing muscle atrophy, not letting him take his psoriasis drugs, causing sores all over his body, etc) are doing more harm than good. The convalescent and assisted living facilities are simply "following the guidelines." I guess we need to demand a re-evaluation of the definition of what "for your own protection" means, and who gets to make that determination.

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The attorney threat worked for getting someone to talk to me and explain what was going on. It's crazy it took a threat of legal action to get the facilities to explain what they were doing to/for my father and why.

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Nevada was the state that forced him into Assisted Living. But we chose a facility in AZ, near my sister, so she could take care of him. The Assisted Living Facility does the basics, but she still manages his doctor care, takes him to all the doctor appointments, and goes above and beyond the basic care the Assisted Living Facility offers. Edit: my sister told me that the AZ lock-down is supposed to end on May 15 and only 10 people have died of COVID-19 in AZ.

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I don't know what to think about the virus itself, and I certainly agree that the severity of the virus/pandemic situation has been wildly overblown. They have taken away our civil liberties, put millions of people into permeant poverty, permanently closed many small businesses while making oligarchies like Amazon more powerful, devalued the dollar so even those of us still working have less purchasing power, and given away billions of dollars in tax funds to businesses that didn't need it/had a long history of irresponsible spending. All to prolong the lives of mostly old people, many of whom are like my dad and were ready to die before the pandemic ever began.

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Canbot, Show me some medical studies to support your opinion that my father is still contagious. I formed my viewpoint about his no longer being contagious from the CDC guidelines as they were presented to me by the convalescent home. If you have information that contradicts the CDC/convalescent home, please send it.

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My understanding is that this test is for any Coronavirus, and common colds are Coronaviruses. It's quite possible that my dad has basically been imprisoned for having a common cold. edit: it is also possible that someone with a common cold sneezed on the papaya and that goats carry common coronaviruses, too. I mean, COVID-19 came from a bat and bird-flu came from birds, so it is likely that goats carry something in that family.

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Thank you for your kind words.... To clarify... he is not allowed to have a cortisone shot to control pain because it is an "elective procedure" done in a doctor's office. He does have pain pills, but they don't work and he hates that "loopy" feeling they give him. My siblings and I have been debating lawyer threatening to get him back into the Assisted Living Facility, but we fear that if they have a break-out, my dad will be blamed and the facility would go after us. The convalescent home really is trying their best, but they have a lot of limiting factors because of the ridiculous rules that surround COVID-19 patients.

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I don't believe that to be true for many reasons. First and foremost, weather seems to be a factor, so cities that don't have the right weather are unlikely to have a massive outbreak: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/health/warm-weather-coronavirus.html

Sweden they didn't lock down and they have a death toll % similar to the US? https://dcwhispers.com/report-sweden-ignored-coronavirus-fears-kept-economy-open-yet-has-a-mortality-rate-similar-to-americas/

South Dakota didn't lock down and isn't having a massive outbreak: https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/health-care/item/35544-south-dakota-has-flattened-the-curve-without-shutting-down

And it looks like the virus has been circulating since at least December, and lots of people have already had it and are already immune: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/494200-california-gov-orders-autopsies-back-to-december-to-find-out-how-long?fbclid=IwAR3F_TGpKQNoY1YTtvnzIWk45r1DiH3UDlsGpVlzDo75hujDOcSEXUlyfGA and https://komonews.com/news/coronavirus/seattle-flu-study-allegedly-tested-samples-for-covid-19-against-federal-state-guidelines

I can cite more reasons, if you don't feel like this is convincing enough.

My 87 Year Old Father Has Cornoavirus. I Would Like to Tell You His Story From His Point of View. by coffee_addict in whatever

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Is this for real? So this "pandemic" is a giant scam for the life insurance companies, too???????

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He 100% has been imprisoned. And I am certain that -- assuming he had it and it wasn't a false positives -- he is beyond the incubation period. And since he was a-sympotmatic, it is quite possible it was a false positive.

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He does have a phone, and we talk to him multiple times a day. Escaping isn't possible... he can't get out of bed by himself. He can't walk anymore, and they didn't give him a wheelchair, so he can't get himself out. We are not allowed in. My sister and brother-in-law have gone over there twice to try to see him. No getting in the door, no talking to him through the (closed) window. I keep calling the facility and begging them to test him. The only decision maker about who gets the test refuses to talk to me, and every time I ask if there is someone else to talk to, they send me on a loop of transferring me from one person to another that all say they can't help me.

My 87 Year Old Father Has Cornoavirus. I Would Like to Tell You His Story From His Point of View. by coffee_addict in whatever

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No. They refuse to let him out until he tests negative... and they refuse to test him.

My 87 Year Old Father Has Cornoavirus. I Would Like to Tell You His Story From His Point of View. by coffee_addict in whatever

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So to clarify... my dad's pains and other symptoms are the same in the convalescent home as they were in the assisted living facility. The issue that we are most concerned with in the convalescent home is that he cannot get him out of bed himself and they refuse to get him out of bed. This will lead to bed sores and muscle atrophy. They won't even get him up to go over to his window so he can wave at the family members standing outside the window, which has him very depressed. We also doubt he is getting his diapers changed frequently enough to prevent diaper rash. There are other issues, too, but those are our biggest concerns.

My 87 Year Old Father Has Cornoavirus. I Would Like to Tell You His Story From His Point of View. by coffee_addict in whatever

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Thanks. I don't know what to think about the virus itself, but I do know that the way the government handled it was to give away a lot of money to the rich (everyone else got a tiny spiff, too), devalue the purchase power of the money we do have by running the printing presses, close down small businesses for good (further empowering the oligarchies)... now it looks like forced vaccines are coming, which is a giant give away to Big Pharma.... It all stinks of corruption at every level. And my poor dad is suffering tremendously in a facility that is grossly understaffed and cannot take care of someone so needy. He is the victim of their political power games.

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Thank you! Speaking of Fauci needing to be investigated, there is a new book out about him: https://i.redd.it/xvm3ioi01ur41.jpg and according to Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Fauci is going to make BILLIONS on the Coronavirus vaccine: https://player.captivate.fm/episode/06406000-ab35-468d-89dc-32f84141d276

My 87 Year Old Father Has Cornoavirus. I Would Like to Tell You His Story From His Point of View. by coffee_addict in whatever

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What I was trying to say is that I believe ultimately more people will die as a result of this than are saved now: all the examples I used are of how not being able to access "non-essential" health care now and/or have money to access health care in the future as causing health problems that would not have existed had the lock-down not happened.

There are only a few hotspots in the country where the virus is a big problem. They shouldn't be locking up people in areas that are not susceptible to outbreaks; sure measures like banning large gatherings and quarantining the "at risk" should be in place, but not locking down everyone indefinitely. According to Bill Gates, the plan is to keep everyone locked up indefinitely until a vaccine is out: https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/04/did-bill-gates-just-reveal-the-reason-behind-the-lock-downs/

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You are 100% correct in that. Poverty is the #1 premature killer of people.

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Wow! You expressed my feelings perfectly! Thank you so much!

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Many argue that we aren't actually saving lives with this shut down, just trading one group of people's lives for another. Poverty is the biggest killer of all, and now millions more people are being thrown into poverty because a lot of businesses that were shuttered will never re-open. Many people lost health insurance and can no longer go to the doctor to be diagnosed/treated timely to prevent a devastating illness. Many people who are currently sick with a disease, such as cancer, that could be cured if caught early enough won't get it caught early because basic physicals aren't being allowed anymore. I do not believe for a minute that we are saving lives for the long haul.