My 87-year old father got the Moderna vaccine and wound up in the hospital

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Last year, I wrote 3 posts about my 87-year old father (FYI, he is going to turn 88 soon):

https://saidit.net/s/whatever/comments/406m/my_87_year_old_father_has_cornoavirus_i_would/

https://saidit.net/s/whatever/comments/46zk/update_on_my_87year_old_father_with_covid19/

https://saidit.net/s/whatever/comments/4p7f/update_2_on_my_87year_old_father_who_had_covid19/

The TLDR of those 3 posts is that he was infected with COVID-19, but was an asymptomatic carrier. Despite the fact that he never got sick, he was forced into a nursing home against his will for 3 weeks. In the nursing home, he was severely neglected. His muscles atrophied, leaving him unable to walk anymore. Medicare provided PT for a while, and thanks to PT, he can stand up and take about 3 steps, so he is able to get in and out of bed/go to the bathroom by himself. But, he is still mostly wheel-chair bound as a result of the nursing home stint.

TLDR of this post is that he was coerced into getting the COVID-19 vaccine and he is now in the hospital. And his girlfriend is being held prisoner.

Full story:

My dad’s assisted living facility was on lock-down for 6.5 months, from mid-March 2020 though the end of September 2020. He was only allowed out for essential doctor appointments. Sadly, cortisone shots to control arthritis pain are not considered essential because they can substitute pain meds. My dad HATES the pain meds. He says they don’t work and doesn’t like being fuzzy headed.

While on lock-down, he went over to his girlfriend’s room every day. My dad was having a hard time with being isolated from his children and friends, but he was coping thanks to his girlfriend. As soon as lock-down ended, she moved to another facility that offered a small apartment for the same price she was paying for just a room at the facility she and my dad are in. She was furious with me and my sister because we refused to move my dad to be with her.

It turned out that the trade-off for a bigger apartment was less staff, so every time she needs something, it takes a lot longer for someone to come and help her. This includes picking her up when she falls, and she was starting to worry about them getting her to a hospital fast enough if she took a severe fall.

Lock-downs for assisted living facilities went into effect in early December. Once lock-down started, it was harder than ever to get help and she decided she wanted to move back to the facility my dad is in. The facility told her that she was welcome to move, as long as she – as an 84-year old woman – can move all her furniture out all by herself as no one is allowed to come inside to help her move. She is distraught at being trapped someplace where she does not feel safe.

Meanwhile, my dad didn’t leave his room or have a visitor for all of December and January. My dad commented daily that even prisoners are allowed to go outside for an hour a day – that he was worse off than literal prisoners. The isolation took a serious toll on his mental well-being. Also, in the winter, his pain is worse than in the summer, and he his arthritis pain was intense. He was desperate for cortisone shots.

In late January, his assisted living facility contacted my sister (his power of attorney) and asked for permission to give him the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine. My sister refused because he has a history of anaphylaxis reactions to certain medications, and Moderna themselves does not recommend the vaccine for people with this kind of history. Plus, he’s already had COVID, so he has natural antibodies and doesn’t need the vaccine, anyway. My dad wholeheartedly agreed.

The facility played hard-ball. They basically said that they wouldn’t ever let him out of his room again, have a visitor again, or get a pain shot again without the vaccine. My dad’s desire to be let out of his room and be freed from pain overshadowed his fear of an anaphylaxis reaction and they acquiesced. He got the vaccine on Thursday, January 28, 2021.

That day, his only reaction was a sore arm. The next morning, Friday, he told me that his arm hurt so bad that he couldn’t sleep the night before. On Friday, he felt really crappy and dizzy and stayed in bed all day, and his arm still hurt. On Saturday, he felt better, but still not good, and his arm hurt worse. On Sunday, he felt ok, but his arm was really red and swollen around the elbow. It is the same arm he got the injection in, but the injection was up near his shoulder, so the infection wasn’t at the injection site. The facility’s nurse bandaged it up and the facility’s doctor put him on an antibiotic based on the nurse’s recommendation, without going to see him for herself.

On Monday morning, his entire arm and hand were super swollen and hot to the touch. The facility sent him to the hospital via ambulance. The hospital admitted him. Family members are not allowed into the hospital at all, so we aren’t 100% sure what is going on. What we know is:

• My dad has been on IV antibiotics this whole time and the infection has improved a little, but not much. I guess it has stopped oozing, but is still very swollen and red.

• They are trying to determine if the infection is in the bone and if surgery is necessary.

• He was breathing fine when he went into the hospital, but each day, his breathing becomes more labored and he’s wheezing pretty loudly now.

My guess is that he was probably already fighting off bacteria in the elbow when the vaccine was administered, and the vaccine lowered his immune system to the point where he could no longer fight it off. Someone told me that given his history of anaphylaxis reaction to drugs, it’s likely that the vaccine also made him swell in response to a bacteria much more-so than he would have naturally.

Anyone who has read my previous posts knows that I am not pointing the finger of blame at anyone. I know that everyone involved was doing their best given the state’s rule. The purpose of last year’s posts was to point out that the system that we have in place to care for our elderly is very broken, and we as a society need to go back to the drawing board. In our zealousness to protect the elderly “for their own good” we are literally tormenting them. There has to be a better way.

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    [–]Tom_BombadilBombadildo 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The vaccine EXPERIMENTAL INJECTABLE mRNA THERAPY is the pandemic.

    Not a vaccine.

    Not that vaccines are healthy.

    [–]coffee_addict[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Thank you!

    [–]zyxzevn🐈‍⬛ 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Really bad stuff.

    You can report via:
    ICAN
    Or:
    ChildrenHealthDefense
    They got lawyers and information to support your cause.

    The recent video from the highwire
    also explains that vaccine is quite problematic for weak/old citizens.
    It already gives health problems (like strong fevers) for healthy young people.

    Prof. Dolores Cahill on the mRNA treatment side-effects
    She lists what problems we can expect from the non-vaccine.
    And on my first glance, what she says seems similar to what you write.

    We also have a sub about vaccine safety:
    /s/VaccineSkepticism

    [–]coffee_addict[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Thank you for all the info! I am looking forward to checking it all out, and especially to reporting it. I tried to report it on the VAERS page of the CDC website when he was sick and dizzy, but that day the site was down. I haven't checked back to see if it is working again.

    [–]NodeThis is my flair. There are many like it, but this one is mine. 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    Different people are fine with different levels of abuse and oppression, and I suppose they have that right. I'm not fine with bullies and oppressors, and I disagree with enabling them, whether by the victims or others.

    More than a "finger of blame" should have been pointed at the evil fuckers running that place. If their replacements were also evil? Same deal. If someone were torturing my father, a massive amount of shit would hit the fan, and them.

    I am not tolerant.

    [–]coffee_addict[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    The "evil fuckers" are the government bureaucrats who created these nightmarish guidelines. I guess I should be pointing the finger of blame pointed at them.

    Here is a copy/paste of what I wrote above: nursing homes and assisted living facilities relied heavily on family members to come in and help put. Those facilities are thinly staffed with grossly underpaid workers. Once the family members weren't allowed to help out anymore, the workers could't keep up with the work-load. That is why my dad was so severely neglected in the nursing home -- since he never actually got sick, it was easy to forget about him when there were so many very sick people there that needed urgent care.

    The people at the facility that my dad lives in are nice people who are trying their best given the horrid regulations that have been straddled on them by the state. Not only has their workload gone up because of the families not being able to help out, the new guidelines create a lot more work for them. For example, now they have to deliver meals/pick them up from each room. Much more work than having everyone eat in the dining room. The staff are all working massive overtime and are exhausted. They are desperate to reduce their workload. They are desperate to have their residents be happy people who can go out and do things like get pain shots. They don't like dealing with crabby and depressed people. I can see why, when told they can't re-open without full vaccine compliance, they would push my dad.

    In their defense, they had an epi-pen ready and waited with him for 1/2 hour to ensure that he didn't have an anphlaxic reaction right then. In their minds, they did everything they needed to do to ensure safe administration of the vaccine and I am sure it never crossed their minds that the reaction would take a different form at a later time.

    One more thing I want to mention is that my dad did not choose to move into an assisted living facility. The state of NV told him he wasn't allowed to live alone anymore and basically forced him into a facility against his will. That was almost a year before the COVID crises hit, so almost 2 years ago.

    [–]NodeThis is my flair. There are many like it, but this one is mine. 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    The state of NV told him he wasn't allowed to live alone anymore and basically forced him into a facility against his will.

    That's probably when the meinkrafting should have taken place. I'll just leave it at that.

    horrid regulations that have been straddled on them by the state.

    I'm not accepting that as an excuse by local businesses demanding The Mask. I've used a local market that tolerates my chin mask, and Costco - because instacart wears the mask for me. Other than that, I hope every single complicit business dies, along with their owners and staff. They've killed countless numbers of innocent people, and are as complicit as the primary perpetrators.

    My dad is a little older than yours, and still lives in his house. He can't get his chainsaw started anymore to cut wood, but he wants to. Brother lives close by, so he has help when he needs it.

    Hope your dad gets better.

    [–]coffee_addict[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Thank you.

    I am seeing things from your perspective more and more. In all honestly, I was all for the state forcing him into a facility because he was a danger to himself. But eventually I realized that he didn't want to live in a sick body anymore and he was deliberately choosing risks. The last two years he has literally been tormented "for his own protection," when the reality is that he is ready to go. I realize now that we can't let the state take anyone's sovereignty away.

    I just watched a video where the speaker was talking about how we, as individuals, need to change our perspective on sovereignty in order to break free of government control. She said something along the lines of "if you are 45 years old and have always lived in your parents basement and been neglected or tormented, you probably have Stockholm syndrome and are afraid to leave. But once you realize that you can get out that window and don't, you are now a participant in your own neglect/torment. You have to overcome the fear and climb out the window." She starts speaking at 1:30:32. Her talk is 20 minutes, and I am not sure when exactly she makes that point: https://odysee.com/@theconsciousresistance:7/The-Greater-Reset-Activation-Day-2--Health---Education:0

    [–]Feldheld 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Coercive measures are wrong except for very extrem and blatant cases, like another nation invading your nation. The government measures against COVID dont even have any solid evidence to be beneficial in the first place, also the only justification for their necessity is the media hype created around the virus, the panic of the mob of the stupid who trust the media.

    Other than that coercive measures are wrong by principle because they place some human beings over others. No human being deserves to be placed over others. No reasonable decent person would assume this much power and responsiblity, only stupid and arrogant people would do such a thing.

    [–]coffee_addict[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Amen!

    [–]waterydunehair 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    You said the employees are underpaid and overworked. What do you expect? People to work harder for even less compensation? It's a shitty entry level job filled with dumb people who phone it in.

    You're not going to get high quality work underpaying people to be 24/7 personal butler's literally wiping asses all day.

    If you want people to take care of you when you're old. You have to pay for it. If you can't pay for it, you better hope you have a good relationship with family/friends who will take care of you.

    [–]coffee_addict[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    That was my point. We need to value the people who care for our elderly more. We should have always been paying them more and not making them work crazy hours. There should have always been enough staff on duty for each shift to fully meet the residents' needs without relying on the families to come in and help. The system was totally broken before COVID, but thanks to COVID, we can no longer turn a blind-eye to the broken nature of it. As a society, we need to re-examine our values.

    [–]waterydunehair 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Cool, I was a bit reactionary. But seems like we're on the same page.

    [–]hamamaha 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I feel this post so keenly man :/ I am a care worker and there was a lady who was always a little bit mentally unstable and would often hallucinate if she did not get stimulation. At first she was able to walk from one room to another to go to bed, they refused to give her cortisone injections to her knees as they were 'non essential' - she was unable to walk, got a stand hoist, then was unable to even use that and became bedbound. Nobody would come out to assess her for a hoist (covid) and she lay in bed 24 hours a day for 12 days and went insane.

    After 12 days in bed she 2 days crying because she thought she had been left by the side of a road and called the police. After they came to find her in bed they sent her to hospital where they gave her covid. She spent her last days in hospital alone and crying and left to die in the ICU. All because cortisone injections are 'non essential' - but they got their covid death in the end.

    [–]coffee_addict[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    This story made me tear up. Especially because I know there are many more out there who are just like her. :(

    [–]slushpilot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Thank you for sharing your story. So sad to hear the kinds of nonsense these old folks have to contend with.

    I'm curious what kind of anaphylactic allergies your father has—bees, wasps, peanuts, etc? (I'm not a doctor or an expert or anything, just wondering.)

    You're absolutely right there has to be a better way. They keep using this word "unprecedented" to describe the pandemic, but what's also unprecedented is our response to it, in countless different ways, and how some know-it-all always seems to know what we should be doing. Unprecedented. We can't expect that one centrally-mandated bureaucratic solution is going to work for everyone, or anyone at all, no matter how well-meaning it is. This kind of totalitarianism also prevents us from figuring out what works and what doesn't. If this is how we operate collectively, I'm afraid that our ability to adapt is being reduced to zero while this virus just carries on.

    Good luck.

    [–]coffee_addict[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    My dad had an anaphylactic reaction to an antibiotic and to a drug that helps control your bladder. He's kill me if he ever found out that I disclosed his bladder control problems! ;)

    I agree with everything you said, and I want to emphasize the points that you made. From what I have seen, the bureaucrats have doubled-down on the systems that were already in place and were already broken. Before COVID, it was easy to turn a blind-eye to the cracks in the system, but now that so many are affected so deeply, the cracks are too numerous and big to hide them anymore. I'll give a specific example to help clarify that very vague statement: nursing homes and assisted living facilities relied heavily on family members to come in and help put. Those facilities are thinly staffed with grossly underpaid workers. Once the family members weren't allowed to help out anymore, the workers could't keep up with the work-load. That is why my dad was so severely neglected in the nursing home -- since he never actually got sick, it was easy to forget about him when there were so many very sick people there that needed urgent care.

    [–]slushpilot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    nursing homes and assisted living facilities relied heavily on family members to come in and help put. Those facilities are thinly staffed with grossly underpaid workers.

    Hell yes, this is accurate. We saw this with an elder family member before last year as well. And it was expensive for what they provided. You might as well book grandma & grandpa on a perpetual all-inclusive cruise... at least they'd get service for what they paid for.

    [–]coffee_addict[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yes! I think my dad's co-pay for that nursing home was $200 per day. He could have been in a hotel with a caregiver checking in on him several times a day for that price. And that was CO-PAY. I want to say medicare paid something like $1200 a day -- and they ignored him. I want to know where the money goes, because it doesn't go to the staff.

    [–]LarrySwinger2 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Thanks for sharing. I envy how calm and neutral you can remain in spite of what's happening. I hope things will get better.

    [–]coffee_addict[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Thank you. I'm definitely not calm or neutral, and I am glad that I don't sound like a raving lunatic!

    [–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Well, your description is objective at least.

    [–]coffee_addict[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Thank you! I tried very hard to not be discredited as a drama queen.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    That's about the age of grandfather. He was just diagnosed with congestive heart failure and I don't think he's leaving the hospital. No visitors cause covid. I'm curious now if he had the vaccine. Edit: Just found out he did get it before this happened. I hope it's not connected.

    I'm sorry about your father, I hope it works out.

    [–]coffee_addict[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I am sorry about your grandfather! I know my dad is freaking out about being alone in the hospital. I hope your grandfather is emotionally ok. I will send prayers that he gets what he wants: if he wants to live, that he recover and get released soon, and if he is ready to pass, that it is quick and peaceful.

    [–]SilenceThem_Consume 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    There have been 0 prosecutions for the mayors executing our old people. That should tell you all you need to know about the priorities of the political elites.

    Sorry for what youre going through OP, try to get your dad a phone so he can call/vid you and his girlfriend, at least that much for him.

    [–]coffee_addict[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    My dad does have a flip phone with him in the hospital. We tried to get him a smart phone a couple of years ago, but he refused to use it. We also tried to get him an iPad, but he wouldn't use that, either. :/

    I hope to God that there is massive backlash against the government for what they are doing to old people, including prosecutions! It's horrifying!

    [–]SilenceThem_Consume 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    This is a good oldpersons phone, it is designed specifically for seniors

    https://www.greatcall.com/phones/jitterbug-smart-smartphone-for-seniors

    He might like the emergency help button, and this is what the menu looks like - it should be easy for him to pick up something new.

    & The plans aren't majorly expensive.

    It has a regular usb connection, so he can probably use his current charger with it, too.

    https://www.assistedliving.org/best-smartphones-for-seniors/

    This has a ton of other phones on it, but I think the greatcall is probably the best for an old person.

    https://www.seniortechclub.com/tech-recipe/making-video-calls-with-facetime-108/

    Here is a tutorial for using Facetime for seniors-

    https://adventuresinnanaland.com/living-far-away-from-grandchildren/

    This one is aimed at talking to grandkids, but it gives a good overview of the different ways to video chat, for an older person.

    The easiest ones for him are probably going to be skype, zoom, and facetime. Maybe you should ask his girlfriend which ones she can use, and then send him a good tutorial for that one?

    The jitterbug will be easiest for him because the UI is made way larger than any other modern phones. + the emergency button.

    I had a bit more, but this comment is getting a little longish. So this'll be it for now.

    And the governors treatment of our old people - It's completely criminal. I hope every one of those amoral faggots winds up in jail for what they did to our elders.

    The fucko who poisoned Flint endorsed Biden, to boot.

    [–]coffee_addict[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Thank you so much for all the awesome suggestions! I will check them out for him and for my mother-in-law!

    [–]Feldheld 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's clear by now that the vaccine hurts most people much harder than the virus. Should be a no-brainer what it does to the very old people with co-morbidities who are at the highest risk to COVID. Again and again, the cure turns out worse than the disease.

    1. Panic is always the greatest killer of all.
    2. Coercive measures are either blatantly justified (like when attacked by a foreign nation) or not.

    [–]Feldheld 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    BTW one of the greatest myth in this crisis is that the governments are forced to do what they do because care about grandma and grandpa.

    Last week we had below zero weather where I live and lots of snow. For more than a week all sidewalks were 80% snow then turned into ice. For a person over 80 falling and breaking the hip is almost always fatal, i.e. a much higher risk of dying than COVID. My 90 year old father died last week, a few months after he fell and broke his hip. He never learned walking again after the operation and bed-bound he slowly slept into the beyond.

    No, mom and pops health are NOT the motivation for the government measures. It is all about the mob of the stupid who trust the media and are so hyped up by the 24/7 panic porn that they fear FOR THEIR OWN LIVES! It's the mob of the stupid vs the individual. A pure power struggle that has nothing to do with science or with caring for the vulnerable.

    [–]coffee_addict[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Sorry for the late reply! This is my alternative account and I've mostly been using my primary account lately. I am so sorry to hear about the loss of your father. :(

    I have no faith in government altruism any more. It seems to me that virtually everything the government does to try to "help" people makes things worse. They have a sinister agenda and use deception and fear to push that agenda.

    [–]Poofter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

    This is faker than the claimed election fraud lmao

    [–]coffee_addict[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

    I wish it was fake. It's very real.

    [–]Poofter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    Did he die though 🙄

    [–]coffee_addict[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

    Are you saying that it's ok to torment old people as long as they don't die? Very humanitarian.

    [–]Poofter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    Did he die though 🙄

    [–]coffee_addict[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    Why didn't you answer my question? Do you think it is okay to torment old people as long as they don't die?

    [–]copenseethe 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Ignore that scumbag. He is probably just an angry teenager living in his mom's trailer. I am sorry to hear about what you and your dad are going through. It is outrageous. A lawsuit might be what it takes to shine a spotlight on what is happening here. I hope things get better for all of you.

    [–]coffee_addict[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    We are looking into suing the government for the ridiculous mandates that they are placing on facilities. But it turns out, suing the government isn't easy. We're hoping someone else starts a suit that we can join in.

    [–]Poofter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Did he die? 🙄

    [–]SilenceThem_Consume 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Suck a dick you dumb retard.

    [–]Poofter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Oh wow, you got me 🙄

    [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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      [–]Poofter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Apparently you do sis or you wouldn’t bother commenting

      [–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Meaning his story is only 99% real?

      [–]Poofter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Swing and miss, larry. Swing and miss 🙄