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[–][deleted] 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (17 children)

It's kinda funny. It's a combo of incel ideology and red pill dating strategy. So.... basically MGTOW.

[–]scormac1752 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (10 children)

Whatever you want to call it, it's still true.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (9 children)

There is an element of truth to it. Women's social value decreases as they age, lose their youthful looks, can't have kids, etc, while often men's value increases. But there's also something to the age gap rule:

half your age plus seven (40 = 20 +7 = 27) to define the minimum age of a partner and your age minus seven times two (40 = 33 * 2 = 60) to define the maximum age of a partner.

There's a reason for that. Too extreme and you're so different developmentally you can't really connect with them as a peer.

I mean, it's complicated. And for those of us here who might have trouble getting laid, you'd be a damned fool to ignore a baby crazy 30yr old who just wants you to fill her up with your man juice.

[–]Node 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

Depends on what you mean by "ignore". Yes, crazy women should not be ignored in the belief that they can't generate evil effects.

If one were about to cross a highway to live out the rest of their life, they would be a damned fool to ignore a speeding truck that's careening wildly down the highway in an out of control manner.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Baby crazy, not crazy crazy. It's a phenomenon when women are nearing the end of their child bearing days. Their biological clock compels them to have a child. And you know what that means.

[–]Node 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Hence, the man cave. I've already done my duty, and taken my hits, so I think I'm pretty well protected against getting ensnared again.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

well protected against getting ensnared again.

I feel like Dr. Who, I want a wife and a companion. We network as people in small subgroups and in larger hive minds. Obviously the latter doesn't tend to work out well but it's fascinating it happens at all. We network like machines.

There is an idea that consciousness just requires enough of something. The old Russian saying that quantity is a quality all of its own. But if that were true, why would we not be communicating with a mushroom mind?

[–]Node 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

I eventually got to the point where I wanted it, but then I got it. Turns out your chances of dying from it are extremely high. Maybe not in your case, but in general I believe it's a massively underreported comorbidity.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Node, underneath every good man is a good woman.

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I bang chicks. I bang chicks over 35 exclusively because they don't play mind games and they know what they want. And they have very high sex drives and know how to fuck.

This joke looks like it was written by a 19 year old incel in his basement. Can't get laid by the other 19 year old chicks, so he's bitter about all chicks. He should go to a bar and let a cougar pick him up and show him how it's done.

[–]HiddenFox 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Back in my early 20s I had a buddy who always went after the cougars. He seemed....happy... but he also had extremely low standards...at the end of it I guess he was getting what he wanted out of the relationships...

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

My man! That is excellent advice.

[–]Chipit[S] 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

Really? You don't think it's because women's attractiveness decreases with age?

Wow, all of the paid troll accounts came out on this one.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

There are many beautiful older women. Drew Barrymore is a babe. Jennifer Aniston. Kathy Ireland still looks great. Demi Moore.

Wow, all of the paid troll accounts came out on this one.

You're just used to people having to be paid to talk to you.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I just looked up MGTOW. Holy shit - how fucking pathetic that this is an official kind of ideology. I mean, I totally get it that there are some of us, when we get older (men and women), who are happy to live a more peaceful, almost monastic life. But that's after a reasonably full earler life. For MGTOW to develop for much of one's life is sad and - as some of see online - can be abusive to the opposite sex.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

It didn't start out a bad group, and they're not entirely wrong in their beliefs. Men's rights groups aren't a bad thing, but they always attract a certain element and things get more radicalized over time.

They believe women gravitate towards "alpha men" who are attractive but mistreat them, and that this solidifies their beliefs in feminism. As the women begin to age, the MGTOW ideology explains that they choose to settle down with "beta males" who provide for them financially, but to whom they deny sex, sometimes choosing to have sex with attractive men outside of their marriage. Finally, the ideology holds that the women will divorce their husbands, and that courts will favor the women in divorce proceedings due to what they describe as female privilege.

Things like that are not untrue, they're just not always true.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for this. Everything I work with involves discussions of the history of methods of balance. I am also a major fan of Robert Bly's men's movement, and have been since it started, especially because it's also a balance of the feminist movement. Anything that appears to be extreme is really annoying to me, because it's not a healthy part of the history of humanity.