Are jewish people really overrepresented in LGBT?

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[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

Does Christianity count as Jewish?

In all seriousness I have a lot of trouble believing these statistics based on my experience. But selection bias is a huge problem, and it's likely that the militant atheist SJW libtards are the vocal minority and have enormous overrepresentation, as is usually the case with that crowd.

I would say it's evidence that "the Jews" are not in fact a bunch of Disney villains trying to take over the world using LGBT propaganda. If there is a Jewish cabal (and there are probably several, no different from everyone else), there's no way the everyday Jew is a part of that elite conspiracy. "Jews" are not one cohesive organized conspiracy against the rest of the world, they have sects and disagreements just like every other religion. Most Jews outside of Israel aren't even Zionists.

Unfortunately there's always going to be a bit of favoritism between Jews, but it's not like that isn't true of every single religion in history sparing some rare exceptions such as Christianity. So why single out Jews?

However a lot of the more reformed Jews don't share this mentality, and very few of them actually have any ill will toward gentiles. That rabbi who said "They will plow, they will reap, we will sit like an effendi and eat" was harshly rebuked by the vast majority of Jews. He is considered an extremist.

[–]Saiditking 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

In all seriousness I have a lot of trouble believing these statistics based on my experience.

You have lots of "experience" on the subject do u?

I would say it's evidence that "the Jews" are not in fact a bunch of Disney villains trying to take over the world using LGBT propaganda.

None of them are disney villains, not even the ones who ARE pretty much trying to take over the world(and currently succeeding). What exact percentage of Jews this group comprises I don't know, but their Jewishness is central to both their identity and their success in achieving power. I don't think the LGBT agenda is central to their plans and it is probably the one area where they seem to have drank their own koolaid. The primary means of ethnic cleansing they are engaged in is ethnic replacement through mass migration and the encouragement of interracial relationships, and they definitely aren't drinking the koolaid in those areas, as their apartheid ethnostate Israel certainly showcases.

If there is a Jewish cabal (and there are probably several, no different from everyone else), there's no way the everyday Jew is a part of that elite conspiracy.

I mostly agree with this. It's their elite generally, although the rank and file are often willing stoodges. This doesn't really change anything about the overall JQ.

there's no way the everyday Jew is a part of that elite conspiracy.

What they are doing doesn't really even require an organized conspiracy. It only requires that they possess power, are ethnocentric, and tend to have a fear and hatred of European peoples. There's not much in the way of conspiring that is needed, although conspiring certainly does occur among some of their elite.

"Jews" are not one cohesive organized conspiracy against the rest of the world, they have sects and disagreements just like every other religion.

No one is saying they have some hive mind. They can loosely coordinate simply based on a shared understanding of who their main enemies are, and many of them demonstrably do coordinate. Sure they have disagreements about tactics and priorities, that neither proves nor disproves anything.

Most Jews outside of Israel aren't even Zionists.

This is demonstrably false. Polls I've seen show they overwhelmingly are. A prominent poll in the US showed something like 95% of them are.

Unfortunately there's always going to be a bit of favoritism between Jews

Oh, is that all it is, just a bit of favoritism huh. Is that how they have managed to have near total control over Hollywood and the media for multiple generations despite comprising just 2% of the US population? Just a bit of favoritism is why they have THE most powerful lobby in Washington, one which effectively vets all US politicians?

However a lot of the more reformed Jews don't share this mentality, and very few of them actually have any ill will toward gentiles.

How do you know this? Probably most "secular" Jews aren't overtly hostile, but still have their prejudices, but there certainly appears to be some very powerful ones who are aggressively hostile, at least towards European peoples. We can't even criticize them or call attention to this because that would be "antisemitic, and "everyday" Jews are almost universally silent about this, and will even circle the wagons and defend the hostile ones if anyone criticizes or scrutinizes them. They aren't policing their own and actively prevent anyone else from doing it.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

None of what you described sounds different from any other culture or religion, including your own. What's of most concern is Jews having a lot of power and money, which mostly stems from Jewish culture being big on success. Jews aren't inherently more evil than anyone else.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Also, why are interracial relationships bad?

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Children with low iq like you

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Unfortunately there's always going to be a bit of favoritism between Jews, but it's not like that isn't true of every single religion in history sparing some rare exceptions such as Christianity. So why single out Jews?

I treat them the same way I treat Boomers.

They selfishly stole the benefits of growing up in majority white nations, while pushing for more immigration/multiculturalism on their children.

If more Jews actually came out as a group and denounced White genocide and Israel, there would be no issue. But that is not happening. Case and point: a man like Ben Shapiro said it's ok for America to turn Brown, but Israel can have tougher borders.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Jews are white themselves.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Jews are white themselves.

I reject this for two reasons:

  1. They're Middle Easterners/mixed race. Whites are broadly from Europe with little admixture from elsewhere.

  2. Jews who pass themselves as White has always had more negative consequences than good ones. Think of it like a Spy. Just because they can dress up and mimic their host nation, doesn't actually mean they're on the same team.

The biggest examples of this can be seen in Jewish overrepresentation in power. Jews are never told to feel guilty for what feels like greed or moral wrongdoings. Such as the mass killings that took place under the Soviet Union.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Stalin tried to exterminate the Jews too.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Actually, he wanted to relocate them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast

Regardless, it doesn't debunk what I said. Jews had committed massacres but we never hear about them or see them blamed.

Even right now, we have examples like Jeffery Epstein get swept under the rug, but a man like Kanye West is being actively hunted by the media and having his bank accounts frozen for daring to question Jewish influence.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

That's because Kanye West is a conservative, whereas Jeffery Epstein was in league with Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, Ghislaine Maxwell, Ellen Pao, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, Hunter Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and the rest of the deep state.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

You're almost getting there.

Now look up the people who are disproportionately involved with the deep state and trying to control the world?

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jews-in-the-biden-administration

I can also correct you that it's not just Conservatism. There has always been bipartisan support for Jews from both parties.

https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2021/09/23/house-passes-1-billion-for-israels-iron-dome-system-in-blowout-vote/

Now connect the dots. It's Elite Jews in Government vs Gentiles.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I already explained why there's so many Jews in higher-class professions. If it were really a conspiracy we'd be hearing day-in and day-out about how wonderful Jews are.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I already explained why there's so many Jews in higher-class professions. If it were really a conspiracy we'd be hearing day-in and day-out about how wonderful Jews are.

If you're referring to the media, that's already the case.

To quote David Chappelle

“This is a rule. You know the rules of perception: if they’re black then it’s a gang, if they’re Italian it’s a mob, but if they’re Jewish it’s a coincidence and you should never speak about it.”