Russian - Ukraine War updates

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[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (21 children)

Reports are being made that Ukraine has now shot down 2 Il-76 transport aircrafts with hundreds of casualties.

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497367890999267337

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1497430637166407686

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

If there's one thing we know ...

... it's that Ukrainians are good at shooting down large aircraft full of people.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (19 children)

No proof has been shown for this or any of Ukraine's grandiose claims. Where are the wrecks of these planes?

[–]Richard_Parker 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (18 children)

Snake Island and the Ghost of Kyiv have been proven to be lies.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Source for Snake Island being fake?

[–]Richard_Parker 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

It was mentioned on Black Pigeons live stream. Russians have footage of pows being disembarked, 83 in total.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I saw that video but some were rightfully questioning if that was what was really being filmed. Ukraine government said that there was 13 and they all died, it would be strange to claim that if that never happened.

[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Ukraine government said that there was 13 and they all died, it would be strange to claim that if that never happened.

Why would you believe any claim made by any government or media org? It’s theatre for the masses, unless you’re there on the ground or have inside information there’s no way to know this early on.

[–]shilldetector 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

it would be strange to claim that if that never happened.

The claim was made by (((Zelensky))) ffs. Jews arent particularly good liars, they just do it so brazenly and so frequently that people think well they wouldnt have said that if it wasnt true, right? I mean people will eventually find out they lied right? Well yeah, and they dont care because by then people will have forgotten or moved on or are still sifting through the dozen other lies he told since that one.

And yes the story has proven to be fake. The commanders of the Guards unit in question came out with a statement that it appears the entire Island garrison was captured.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Ghost of Kyiv

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

He has to be stopped.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Yeah. The west is pushing these bs stories to keep the Ukrainians fighting.

[–]Richard_Parker 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

To the contrary, Ukraine and other interests are trying to find up support for military aid or even direct us intervention...

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

direct us intervention

These people are insane. Nothing will destroy the US faster than that.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

It's unlikely the U.S will ever go to war over this.

I'm already seeing volunteers from many countries signing up to fight for Ukraine. Putin screwed up big time.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

If there are brave men willing to volunteer to go fight in a war they should instead be seeking to overthrow the current power structures of the West.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

I'm already seeing volunteers from many countries signing up to fight for Ukraine.

They'll just get themselves blown to pieces for nothing. Lmao!

Putin screwed up big time.

No, NATO screwed up big time.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Putin is caught in a zero sum game.

  1. He can't occupy a country of 44 million people who have shown to resist. Imagine the Iraq/Afghanistan/Vietnam disaster times a 100.

  2. If he loses, it completely destroys all his credibility, while Russia itself is now cut off from the rest of the world.

My only hope is someone in Putin's inner circle finds a way to yank him out of there and can start peace talks.

I can't get behind dumb and out of touch Boomers. We're now seeing what this final form of stupidity looks like.

[–]Richard_Parker 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

It could destroy the entire planet.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Still better than globohomo.

[–]Richard_Parker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Use your head Globohomo may never achieve permanent, irreversible hegemony. Nuclear holocaust on the other hand...

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I'm joking.