Gulf states, India, Central Asia and China veer towards Russia during this crisis

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[–]shilldetector 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Ukraine has a lot of modern US military hardware. There was a question of whether the Ukrainians would really fight, but it seems they are fighting, so that being the case the casualties seem to be in line with what you'd expect, especially with the Russians attempting an airborne operation at that key airport right outside Kiev. Airborne troops are extremely vulnerable to armored attacks, which is why since ww2 modern militaries have all but ceased them unless it's limited attacks against lightly armed ground troops/insurgents. I dont believe a single airborne operation was attempted in the gulf war. It was a ballsy move by the Russians and it seems to have gone the way previous airborne operations against modern armies have gone, although maybe less disasterous.

The Iraq army didnt fight during the US invasion, they simply melted away to fight another day, and the war overall was an unmitigated disaster from the US perspective. For the Israelis it was a success though, and that's all the Neocons cared about. I also havent seen any solid numbers of casualties, as the only thing the Jewed media will report on are Ukrainian defense ministray claims.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

See my response to the Raven.

https://saidit.net/s/debatealtright/comments/8yky/gulf_states_india_central_asia_and_china_veer/x2lx

Either Russia is incompetent and has to rely on brute force tactics (which is historically true), or the Ukranians are that much better (which is strange, since they're both Slavs).

Just having help from the U.S is not enough to tip the scales. Bay of pigs invasion was the same disaster. CIA glowies were still beaten back by the Island spics & mullatos.

Edit: And even if you don't want to believe the Ukranian claims, there's plenty of on the ground footage being uploaded on the internet, that shows Russian armor being destroyed, or Russian soldiers themselves deserting.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/t0qqdd/footage_appears_to_show_evidence_of_russian/

Not good for an invasion force if morale is already that low.

[–]shilldetector 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

The Russians seem to be winning and are close to taking over the entire country, and you're comparing it to bay of pigs?

Did you honestly just give me a reddit link to prove Russian morale is low? Publicfreakout no less? Which is one of the most Jewed propaganda subs on reddit?

I would hope the Russians are at least somewhat uneasy about killing fellow slavs. I wouldnt want to kill my fellow ethnics either simply based on who lives on what side of a border.

As I said this is just a brother war that was instigated by Neocon Jews that constantly attack Putin and Russia. They havent shut up about Russia for the last 5 years. They wouldnt just let Russia be and intentionally used Ukraine to threaten and subvert them. The Russians enemy isnt fellow slavic Ukrainians, it's Jews who use Ukraine for their own ends. These people are basically all European peoples enemies at this point. Sam Hyde said it best about what they want for all of us.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I would hope the Russians are at least somewhat uneasy about killing fellow slavs.

That uneasiness is the biggest reason they're taking casualties, they've been merciful to people who stab their back when turned around.

The Russians enemy isnt fellow slavic Ukrainians, it's Jews who use Ukraine for their own ends.

And unfortunately the path to destroying Jewish power structures involves death. But war is the biggest accelerator of Jewish decay there is and the kikes are too prideful to realize that.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah. They're fighting with a hand behind their back. They've taken great pains to limit Ukrainian military and civilian casualties. The US intelligence services admitted as such. If they went full in and attacked with full-spectrum EW, rocket artillery, and airstrikes, the Ukrainian army would cease to exist by now.

However, in that case there'd be 20,000 Ukrainian military deaths and tens of thousands of civilian deaths.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Kadyrov has sent 10,000+ Chechens marching towards Kiev so maybe a more brutal approach to the battle is yet to come. It seems that Putin truly sees this as a re-enactment of the invasion of Germany over 70 years ago. He's gone to the point of announcing military tribunals for members of the current Ukrainian regime. And even Zelensky is playing his role as a sort of "Anti-Hitler" with his refusal to leave Kiev.

Hopefully the war ends before the Chechens are able to quench their thirst for blood.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's nothing like that. The Chechens are being used as cannon fodder. Urban combat is bloody and it's good for Russia if he can use Chechens to grind the defenders down.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Where's your source of them taking over the entire country in a day? Other than the Capital city, most Russians are still fighting close to the border.

Did you honestly just give me a reddit link to prove Russian morale is low? Publicfreakout no less? Which is one of the most Jewed propaganda subs on reddit?

I doubt either of us speak Ukrainian/Russian, so a video on an english website will have to suffice.

I would hope the Russians are at least somewhat uneasy about killing fellow slavs. I wouldnt want to kill my fellow ethnics either simply based on who lives on what side of a border.

If they don't want to kill, why are they dressed in uniform? They're still getting paid for their crime, so spare me the ethics.

As I said this is just a brother war that was instigated by Neocon Jews that constantly attack Putin and Russia. They havent shut up about Russia for the last 5 years. They wouldnt just let Russia be and intentionally used Ukraine to threaten and subvert them. The Russians enemy isnt fellow slavic Ukrainians, it's Jews who use Ukraine for their own ends. These people are basically all European peoples enemies at this point. Sam Hyde said it best about what they want for all of us.

I'm aware, but Putin has already crossed the Rubicon at this point and he was never going to give up power peacefully. Waging a half ass war just confuses everyone, left or right. I think the Russians are just incompetent and that's why they're running into issues early on fighting another Slavic country.

Maybe they will win or install a new puppet government that's favorable to Russia, but don't pretend that all their screw-ups are based on "brotherly love" and telling off globalists. Their history of incompetency goes back hundreds of years.

[–]shilldetector 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

If they don't want to kill, why are they dressed in uniform? They're still getting paid for their crime, so spare me the ethics.

The same could be said of literally every member of every military.

I think the Russians are just incompetent and that's why they're running into issues early on fighting another Slavic country.

Well they managed to put several probes on the surface of Venus 50 years ago, something not even NASA managed to do successfully, so they are at least somewhat competent. To the extent they are having issues it's because the defender always has a home field advantage and the Russians have to be careful not to cause too many civilian casualties or risk Ukrainians and the world turning against them.

The US on the other hand just went full "shock and awe" on Iraq and the end result was probably hundreds of thousands dead, and not a single person ever held accountable for their preemptive invasion and military occupation. Coincidentally Biden voted for the invasion if I remember so he's hardly someone to lecture another country about invasions.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The same could be said of literally every member of every military.

You can wear a uniform for self defense.

If you wear it while being on the offensive, then at least admit to it.

Well they managed to put several probes on the surface of Venus 50 years ago, something not even NASA managed to do successfully, so they are at least somewhat competent. To the extent they are having issues it's because the defender always has a home field advantage and the Russians have to be careful not to cause too many civilian casualties or risk Ukrainians and the world turning against them. The US on the other hand just went full "shock and awe" on Iraq and the end result was probably hundreds of thousands dead, and not a single person ever held accountable for their preemptive invasion and military occupation. Coincidentally Biden voted for the invasion if I remember so he's hardly someone to lecture another country about invasions.

I didn't support the Iraq invasion. I only used it as an example of what a competant military looks like, even if Bush lied to all the Men & Women who took part in it.

I also support Russia on their Space Endeavors, and would prefer they focus on that, than conquering their neighbor.

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