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[–]shilldetector 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Keith Woods has already dismantled these silly qanon 2.0 covid conspiracies several times just using basic common sense. Look at how many of saidits known front page Jewish shills are pushing this vaccine conspiracy shit 24/7 and that should tell you everything you need to know about how it's being used. Like Qanon, it's a way to channel right wing and white frustration into something that harms and discredits them.

Its really sad how many prominent dissidents who know better are increasingly catering to this idiocy just to stay relevant without attracting the wrath of organized Jewry. It's largely a safe form of dissent, although our Jewish overlords will occasionally use it to silence voices they dont like.

I'll be honest with you. If I was an amoral anti white Jewish supremacist I would be doing the same thing. Pushing this conspiracy to divide my enemies while discrediting them, making them look stupid and deplatforming the ones you dont like, not to mention potentially harming their health.

[–]Wrangel 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Extremely black pilling

The whole world is under tight control of a small number of people

There is no policy goals, qtards aren't actually for anything, they don't have any real campaigns goals or policies to implement.

They are very easy to understand and make complex topics highly simplified

They make you look crazy.

This are the typical signs of a disinformation campaign. They don't want the right to talk about migration, trade policy or how big tech has taken over the world. They want the right to devolve into qtardism.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Jewish schill here. It's time for your booster goy!

queue vigorous hand-rubbing

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Striker gave no concrete arguments rebutting Thuletide at all. Birchers have nothing to do with this. Thuletide isn't talking about Jay Dyer-tier conspiracies like Bill Gates is depopulating Africa. He's talking about international technocracy and world government.

World government is something the elites have been openly and explicitly calling for and working towards since the end of WW1. The first step towards this was the establishment of BiS(Bank of International Settlement) and the league of nations.

These were initial attempts at political and economic unification of the world. These groups were the products of decades of globalist planning and debates. The globalist societies first formed in the anglosphere and consisted of two main organizations: The Pilgrims Society(A British-American high society clique) and the British roundtable groups.

After WW1, Britain's weakness became evident to all and the empire was bankrupt from the war. The dollar started to replace the Pound as the world reserve currency and American industrial power began to eclipse that of Western Europe.

So the globalist movement increasingly became America-centric. The American faction of the pilgrims coalesced around the Council of Foreign Relations(CFR) which was founded in 1921 with Rockefeller backing. This became a headquarters of sorts for the American globalists. The CFR united the three pillars of the American elite: The banking community, the industrial barons, and the intelligence community.

The BiS and league of nations, however, failed for the most part due to one issue- The lack of Anglo-American world hegemony.

Central Europe largely maintained independent economies with protectionist policies, local industrial bases, and individual foreign policies. France, Holland, Japan, and Belgium also maintained substantial empires walled off from foreign trade.

The Soviet Union in the east also remained an independent and largely autarkic empire. Plus, they all had independent foreign policies, substantial military strength, and ideological differences with the anglosphere.

The initial globalization effort thus failed to gain much ground. It lost even more ground after the Fed's easy money policies caused the great depression. The rise of fascism in central Europe in response to bolshevik threats and predatory British capitalism also exacerbated the issue.

WW2 provided a big break for globalism. After WW2, Europe was in ruins. All of Western Europe came under American domination and Britain effectively became a vassal to the US. Eastern Europe fell under the control of the Soviets. The Soviets ''won'' WW2 but at the cost of 27 million lives and massive destruction of its lands. Its victory was worse than defeat and set the stage for its ultimate collapse in 1989.

Hitler's many atrocities against slavs, disabled Germans, gypsies, and the general brutality of the German and Japanese militaries greatly discredited fascism. Nationalism was blamed(somewhat justifiably) for the world wars and the elites swore off nationalism, romanticism, and religious zeal. They embraced materialism as their de facto religion.

American capitalism in the meantime provided great wealth and material prosperity for the world. This combined with the scars of the world wars led the world to embrace egalitarianism, pluralism, liberalism, and free trade.

The Cult of Freedom was born.

The world was seduced by American power, beauty, and wealth. The whole world wanted to become her. In order to prevent another nationalist uprising ever again, diversity, feminism, and secularism were adopted by the elites to defang the Western populations and put them to pasture. This was accomplished during the American cultural revolution of the 60s aka the civil rights movement.

The Eastern bloc held on against American globalism for a while but ultimately collapsed due to the communist leaders' inability to reform. The only way the communist states could survive was by taking the Chinese route and morphing towards the de facto national socialist state.

The Chinese communists survived by taking this third way under Deng. After the USSR fell, the US was left as the sole master of the world.

Globalism now had zero competitors.

Wall Street, madison avenue, and Hollywood began a world conquest.

The IMF and World Bank in conjunction with the US treasury and Federal reserve began to integrate global finance. The USD became completely hegemonic due to the petrodollar. Countries were forced to open their markets due to IMF and World bank pressure.

Once the markets were opened, American banks and corporations would sweep in and buy up the economy. Now, American cultural trends would be enforced all across the world by corporations.

Ireland for example was a highly conservative country until the 90s. Then the markets were opened, American corporations like Google and Facebook moved in and massively liberalized Irish society with political pressure, selective donations, and working in conjunction with US NGOs.

The whole world started to watch Hollywood and its cultural memes dominated the world. Today, a Brazilian guy and an Indian guy could sit in Singapore and find common cultural ground on the basis of marvel movies, EA sports games, or Daily Show "Comedy".

The arts faculties of the world follow American books and American academic literature exclusively peddles cultural marxism and bogus Boasian anthropology.

The whole world was on the verge of becoming one: One Hollywood culture, all socializing on the same American social media giants, all employed by the same cross owned multi corporations, all consuming the same Chinese made products, all indebted to the same BlackRock owned banks and the central banks of the world all working under the auspices of the Federal Reserve.

It was only a matter of time before UN laws were made supreme over national law codes in order to ensure smoother corporate operation across national lines.

However, three stumbling blocks came on the road.

Russia revived and rejected western hegemony. China became ever more dominant and also rejected western oligarchic liberalism. It elected to go on a more nationalist trajectory. The CIA predicted in the 90s that with increasing economic prosperity thanks to Western outsourcing, China would liberalize as well or collapse like the USSR.

None happened. China went from strength to strength and now is on the verge of eclipsing the west.

The second problem stemmed from Western decline. The demographic decline of ethnic European populations, excessive debt, excessive financial parasitism, deindustrialization, and diversity fueled crime and instability crippled the western world.

The US is now in the same position in regards to China as the USSR was in regards to the US during the cold war. Its rapidly declining while its nemesis is continuing the pull ahead.

The third problem was an increasing dissatisfaction and disillusionment with the religion of antiracism and the cult of freedom. In the 90s, it was promised that antiracism, feminism, homosexual tolerance, open borders, and secularism would lead to a Star Trek-like techno-utopia. Instead what we're getting is a South Africa-like anarcho-tyranny and mayhem.

People are increasingly repulsed by the left and its trannies, worship of black criminals, extreme sexual decadence, and xenophilia. The honeymoon phase is over and liberalism no longer commands the hearts and minds as it once it. It's no longer the seductive blonde sporting a mini skirt, now it's an obese black tranny with pink hair and a ''feminine penis''.

As such, it longer has its past allure and increasingly has to rely on surveillance, police state tactics, and overt Soviet-style tyranny.

I believe that it's in lieu of this floundering of the globalist project that the great reset, the covid agenda, and climate lockdowns are being fast-tracked. They want a totalitarian world government as fast as possible while the West still remains at the top of the world. The slow approach is no longer feasible.

David Rockefeller headed the American liberal establishment for over 40 years until his death in 2017. He was the Kingpin of the liberal world order and was the closest thing America had to a king. After his death, there seems to be a vacuum on the throne. It increasingly looks as if various factions are working their own projects in parallel directions.

The Soviet Union became rudderless after the death of Yuri Andropov in 1982 and went into a tailspin. It collapsed just 9 years later.

Only time will tell if David Rockefeller's death will herald the same for the US.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not that conspiracy is too big, it's just that it's bullshit lol

"Most obvious conspiracy ever" yet he proceeds to spout some schizo babble which is obvious only to someone who is already too deep into this specific conspiracy. I can explain why holocaust is fake in most simple and understandable terms to anyone and there is no conspiratorial thinking involved, especially considering you, even as academic in Robert Faurisson or David Irving case, get actual consequences for denying the holocaust, whereas great-resettards just go to some echo chamber ghetto where they belong.

Almost every major mRNA "vaccine" company CEO is a member of the tribe

Yeah, one of two... lol

[–]shilldetector 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

So what exactly is the prevailing conspiracy theory at the moment? That the covid vaccine has some delayed mechanism by which all the people who've taken it will either one day start dropping dead or be sterilized, and that this will then depopulate the planet and make it more amenable to a shadowy group of elites, who only pretended to be vaccinated and for the last 40 years have been doing everything humanly possible to increase the global population despite secretly wanting it dramatically decreased?

As has been pointed out many times, the people who would be destroyed by this more than anyone would be Jews, who by far are the most covid vaccinated and boostered ethnic group on earth and whose ethnostate is absolutely obsessed with the vaccines. So it seems odd that people who are the most disturbed and worried about growing unchecked Jewish power would simultaneously believe that mostly goy elites are at this moment setting about the means of their destruction.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That the covid vaccine has some delayed mechanism by which all the people who've taken it will either one day start dropping dead or be sterilized, and that this will then depopulate the planet and make it more amenable to a shadowy group of elites, who only pretended to be vaccinated and for the last 40 years have been doing everything humanly possible to increase the global population despite secretly wanting it dramatically decreased?

Imagine believing Jews made up the holocaust, killed Kennedy, infiltrated the Catholic Church, orchestrated 9/11, feminized men, masculinized women, took over the dollar with the fed, fix stock markets, memed the civil rights movement, orchestrate BLM, rape kids as trophies, control hollywood, genocide whites, control news, orchestrated World wars, etc. etc. etc.... but a world wide maiming/sterilizing or depopulation agenda using vaccines as cover is a 'crazy conspiracy theory'.

[–]shilldetector 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The so called conspiracy theory regarding Jewish abuse of power revolve around their extreme wealth. Their ridiculously outsized media power. Their powerful and aggressive lobby groups spanning multiple facets of society and politics. Their outsized influence on elite academia. Their hyper aggressive nuclear armed ethnostate. Their century long Hollywood monopoly. The writings and statements of their many think tanks and intellectual movements comprised almost exclusively of Jews over the years. Their now near total monopoly on ownership and control of social media. Their aggressive and proven track record on instituting levels of censorship never seen in the west. I could go on.

These are all things that are provable. They arent hairbrained conspiracy theories based on no evidence or conjecture like this covid nonsense. No group should have this kind of power even IF you gave them the benefit of the doubt, which this particular group has definitely not earned.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]TheJamesRocket 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (22 children)

Oh great. shilldetector, Wrangel, and disidentHR are shitting up the comments section again with their pro vaccine BS. All we're missing is radicalcentrist, and the party will be complete.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

I don't mind it. It's not very difficult to counter their points and intelligent dissidents will see who has the stronger argument. The pro vaxxers do seem to get into threads quicker that's for sure.

I just wish Enoch and Striker would look harder at the data on how dangerous these 'vaccines' are. They are hurting white people and could potentially kill and or sterilize large swaths of them. Not to mention the obvious financial attack you and others have been articulately outlining for months. How is that not an issue for folks that call themselves pro white? Liberals seem to hate anything that has to deal with Trump but it seems like a lot of dissidents also get trapped into hating anything that deals with Trump and his supporters (I think that's why they allowed Trump into power; so they could hyper-polarize the electorate and even divide us). Just because lots of former Q people are anti vaxxers really doesn't mean anything if the evidence in there. Many in the dissident right are almost becoming like a new version of an opti-cuck. It's a loathing that borders on a hatred of many working class whites. Which is also bizarre for pro white podcasters.

I have listened to a lot less of striker and enoch lately because of this which is a shame because I was a regular listener for years.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I just wish Enoch and Striker would look harder at the data on how dangerous these 'vaccines' are.

They haven't got jabbed and they tell people every time it's brought up not to. There doesn't really need to be more said beyond the typical muh freedom stuff and how they used it to make a bunch of money and whatever, going into the weeds is just hobbyism and masturbation. Seems more like you just want to consume novel covid theories and that kind of thing moreso than any real deeb goncern.

They are hurting white people and could potentially kill and or sterilize JPG large swaths of them.

Exhibit A of a novelty theory

Not to mention the obvious financial attack you and others have been articulately outlining for months. How is that not an issue for folks that call themselves pro white?

When were they not caring about this? They were talking about the government freezing rents and mortgages, giving people stimulus cheques etc. They have no power to enact it but they weren't just ignoring it, they were encouraging people to do anything they can to secure bags for themselves. I remember specifically them telling everyone to have a 'fuck you pay me' approach, theorising about the '#WhiteStrike' etc. In concrete reality recently, literally in the past couple weeks, they've been raising thousands for white families with 'Operation White Christmas' as well as doing the most crucial journalism work covering the Charlottesville trial and then the Waukesha terrorist attack, not to mention the reason the conservatards didn't throw Kyle under the bus is because National-Justice got so much information about the case so viral that Kyle became popular which forced the conservatives to change their tune. Have any covid conspiracists done ANYTHING concrete to help real people? Where are they covering the Waukesha terrorist attack? How many white families have they raised money for? Did they say anything about the Charlottesville trial? They're suspiciously nowhere where white people need them but everywhere where jews want them.

It's a loathing that borders on a hatred of many working class whites

I have no idea where on earth you're getting this idea from, it's the exact inverse of what's happening lol

I feel like you've just stopped listening to them and been listening to a bunch of gossipy faggots make up a bunch of shit about them or something. Your comment legit makes no sense.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I will admit that enoch and striker's covid vaccine positions may be more nuanced but the fact that they aren't forcefully against it has turned me off to listening more. Sorry but that's just how I read the data right now. I still listen to Warren Balogh. I do catch the NJS rally speeches but that's about the extent of my Enoch and Striker input (and I use to listen to almost every strike and Mike in it's entirety). I hope Enoch is not pressuring the TRS network family into anti anti vaxxer positions. It would be nice if I could find another show on the network to listen too that is willing to talk more about the scamdemic. Does anybody know the third rail's position? I haven't listened to them much recently either.

they've been raising thousands for white families with 'Operation White Christmas' as well as doing the most crucial journalism work covering the Charlottesville trial and then the Waukesha terrorist attack, not to mention the reason the conservatards didn't throw Kyle under the bus is because National-Justice got so much information about the case so viral that Kyle became popular which forced the conservatives to change their tune

Sorry but I don't really think that's of much value if they even slightly downplay a literal depopulation agenda going on right in front of them. White kids getting run over by racist black people is fucking terrible put pales in comparison to 10's of thousands of kids dying of avoidable heart complications, clotting, etc. Sterilization has the potential to drop our population by millions. That's fucking huge and potentially irrecoverable. If I'm wrong who cares. If I'm right we need all hands on deck to stop this and alert people to this immediately. We've had to deal with brown people killing us for decades this new threat is potentially a LOT more deadly. I guess we will just have to wait until more people die and more women miscarry before TRS backpeddles? How many white people have to die until TRS admits this is a major issue?

Sometimes I think the only people in the movement of any value are the agriculturalists like iceagefarmer.

I have no idea where on earth you're getting this idea from,

Qanon was incredibly misguided but it was OUR people. It was white working class people that did not have the time to figure out that Jews were doing a limited hang out. There's a lot of 'fuck liberals' and fuck 'qanon people' and 'fuck anti vaxxers' etc etc. If you combine all those groups that TRS seems to bash daily and that's a LOT of white people. We have to continue to try to work with these folk instead of call them idiots. I'm really tired of qanon bashing. The bulk of qanon believers were good working class whites and they were right to fear elites raping kids because that's what elites do. Just because they got tricked into a rabbit hole of Trump saviorism just shows they're looking for white male heros and there's nothing wrong with that IMO; it's part of who we are to look up to heroes. The alt right certainly hasn't provided them with any that's for sure.

I feel like you've just stopped listening to them and been listening to a bunch of gossipy faggots make up a bunch of shit about them or something.

To be honest, I've reduced my dissident content consumption quite a bit. I like JT, Warren Balogh, Apollonian Germ, Greg Hood and a few of /our farmers/ and that's about it right now. I think this covid thing has done some real damage to the delicate balance that is the 'dissident right tent' (maybe that was the point all along?)

I use to think this thing could hold together with each little group staying in their lanes, focusing on conversion of normies, and not attacking the larger movement but not so sure anymore.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It would be nice if I could find another show on the network to listen too that is willing to talk more about the scamdemic.

FTN is strongly anti-vax.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

If the vaccine is truly the key to safety and covid is such a serious threat, why are the elites demanding white conservatives take it? Shouldn't they discourage conservatives from taking it and let them be? They would surely benefit if all these pesky right-wing whites die off, wouldn't they?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is literally exactly what they're doing lol

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I won't take my first dose until every last jewish and black American is boosted. I don't want my white privilege to harm a single person of color or oppressed holocaust survivor.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

me neither

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

What argument is there to be had?

  • More vaccinated countries = less people die from covid
  • Vaxxocaust is fake
  • Vaccines are free of charge
  • I am against lockdowns because last implementation was horrible, but not against lockdowns on principle
  • Even though I hate Trump, his response to vaccine stuff is decent, credit where credit is due (I guess he figured that covid is killing his base more than anything)

How is it pro-white to kill white people because you're afraid of needle? I get that mandates in this manner (through private entities) are dangerous line to be threaded, but that is the only way it can be done through liberal system, it is what it is. Back in Yugoslavia nobody asked you if you want the vaccine or not, you just had to take it and that's it, and letting antivax shit pass is also a dangerous line to be threaded.

[–]Node 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

More vaccinated countries = less people die from covid

Given the massive fakery in the numbers, how is this determined?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Which fakery?

You can see some of the data here, there was even some nice infographic with more countries but I can't find it. But you can just go to covid stats, sort by deaths per million, and you'll see all the more developed and less vaccinated countries on top of the list.

I'm not a shill like /u/TheJamesRocket insinuated (see James, tagging is not hard when you're talking about somebody), I am just a witness to many people close to me dying from this cursed disease and I had whole lots of long-term effects myself and I don't see why anybody wouldn't take the vaccine. We in Croatia had a single vaccine death among 2.3M vaccinated, and 50-60 people die from covid on a daily basis.

[–]Node 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I don't save the posts and data exposing the hoax. We've seen number manipulation for almost 2 years now, in cases, hospitalizations, severity, transmission, and any other statistic that can be quantified.

The covid hoax has cured virtually all other diseases, has even saved gunshot victims from certain death (unfortunately, they died of the covid...), and has single handedly eradicated the regular flu.

I haven't seen anyone get sick from the covid hoax, and don't know anyone who died from it.

We in Croatia had a single vaccine death among 2.3M vaccinated, and 50-60 people die from covid on a daily basis.

They simply don't count deaths from the first two weeks after being injected with the substance as "vaccine deaths". And after two weeks, the reporting doctor may lose his licence.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You should get out more then. Also, gun deaths in US are on the increase despite covid.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I probably won't go out more, given the levels of insanity out there. People are literally wearing masks on their faces, not because of any dust or fumes, but they claim it's to catch a virus

Even if that's all you knew about the covid hoax, you'd know it's a hoax by that alone.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree wearing cloth masks is retarded and just a meme measure, I don't know why it was kept in place after the shortage of N95s and N99s was resolved.

I mean it's better than nothing, but what's the point if you're always out in big cities, restaurants, airports, etc.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Make sure to get your booster. You don't want to be labeled as, "Unvaccinated," do you?

[–]TheJamesRocket 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You can see some of the data here, there was even some nice infographic with more countries but I can't find it. But you can just go to covid stats, sort by deaths per million, and you'll see all the more developed and less vaccinated countries on top of the list.

Your argument is retarded. The coronavirus has a survival rate of 99%. The overwhelming majority of people who die from it are the elderly with comorbiditys. And yet you agree with the Globalist narrative that all people need to be vaccinated, regardless of age or health? Where is your head at?

You should get out more then. Also, gun deaths in US are on the increase despite covid.

Yes. Thats from black gangsters killing each other at unprecedented rates.

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[–]TheJamesRocket 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

https://redd.it/raxc31

That chart is from April. Try looking for something more recent.

Meanwhile, heres some other data points for you to chew on.

In Germany, 95% of the omicron infections were among the fully vaccinated.

In the United Kingdom, 83% of the covid deaths were among the fully vaccinated.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Final snapshot is from the October. I'll admit some factors did change from back then, but it still follows similar trends.

UK article is napkin math, they literally just convert per 100k deaths into absolute numbers and calculate percentages 🤣

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Still not taking the Trump vaxx. Trump likely colluded with Russia's evil Putin to create a death-vaxx for the American people.

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    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    Schwab is Jewish

    [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    Pretty sure he's just a German.

    [–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    His mother is a Rothschild.

    [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Why do you say that?

    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    That's what all schizos say about anyone, they say Hitler is one of them as well lol

    [–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Marky Mark of Deboooonkerchan strikes again!

    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    That's something a child of the Rothschilds would say. We've figured out your game you adrenochrome-sucking lizardman.

    [–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You found me out... Dammit, now how will I continue my evil baby-farming operation? I need that sweet-sweet baby blood and adrenochrome or I might start to age.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    He looks pretty Jewish.

    [–]TheJamesRocket 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Schwab is Jewish

    Is there any proof of that? He looks and acts like a Jew, but that doesn't mean he is one of them.

    My understanding was that Schwab was another rich WASP. These types have no loyalty to their race, they are only loyal to their own class.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    He looks pretty Jewish tbh

    [–]88BitSorelianism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    So all Striker did was smear and bad jacket everyone who thinks the Covid vaccine is unsafe as Qanon Zionist idiots, and never tried to refute anything at all. He wants to make it seem like the only people that think the vaccine could be dangerous are right wingers that learned everything from Qanon, yet people he admires on the left are speaking out about the harms of the vaccine too, like Jimmy Dore, Max Blumenthal, and Glen Greenwald. He won't admit he was wrong though, he has to have the highest IQ 100% right take every single time or else it will be memory holed and never talked about again. In European football there has been 18 heart attack deaths in 2021 and only 4 in 2018, these are people at the peak of their lives and they are athletes and they are dropping like flies most likely from vaccine side effects. But no one can talk about it or you're a whacko qanon trumpist retard because TRS had a back take at the beginning of the pandemic and they will never ever admit they were wrong about anything you're just a low IQ trump supporter.

    [–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    [–]PrawoJazdy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Here's my thoughts on #2. I haven't thought much about these things till now because I believe in focusing on key DR issues rather than going into what I consider pointless deviationism (e.g. turning the DR into an explicitly anti-Covax [or pro-Covax] movement and shifting most time and energy into Covid [e.g. Millenniyule 2021 with Philosophicat] or turning the DR into something explicitly economically socialist or capitalist and thus splitting the movement along 'NazBol' [e.g. Woods] and 'racist liberal' [e.g. Martinez] lines).

    For the record, I find Striker's views less compelling that Thuletide's, presuming they are accurately summarized by the OP. But typing a response to just one of three questions is time consuming. So now's the time to have a crack at #2.

    Firstly, let us consider what I will call the 'Argument from Unintended Consequences':

    We also can't identify every person (including every heeb) behind The Great Replacement [TGR] or any other DR grand narrative. Ergo, TGR isn't happening because we can't provide a comprehensive list of persons involved, we can only partially establish causation by pointing at heebs, oligarchs, etc. as aggregates.

    This is of course the same shit argument Destiny attempted to employ against Martinez—you can't name every single yid, when he became involved, why he became involved, and so forth, so all that you believe should be written off as a 'conspiracy theory'.

    Non-DR persons who employ this argument can easily be destroyed by counter-analogy. Non-DR persons cannot provide a comprehensive list of persons involved in the creation and perpetuation of 'systemic racism', 'climate change' and every single other non-DR grand narrative without exception, and can also only 'guesstimate' by again blaming aggregates like 'Whites' and 'capitalists'. Clearly, this also doesn't establish causation to the standard they demand we meet; ergo, no non-DR grand narrative is true either.

    At this point, it becomes obvious that they're just playing by double standards. We need to provide an absurd amount of evidence that we can't obtain to justify belief in TGR or Cultural Marxism; they need absolutely no evidence whatsoever to justify belief in whatever it is that they believe. They can't tell us exactly who/what caused Covid, but they demand everyone be jabbed; nor who caused 'systemic racism', but they demand destructive changes to 'solve' it; nor who caused 'climate change', but they demand 'climate action'.

    Furthermore, causation doesn't need to be established to admit that a problem exists. I don't need to know specifically who the driver is of a car speeding towards the edge of a cliff in order to know that it's a problem. This is of course how Leftists try to avoid the previous paragraph—'do I need to know exactly which capitalists are responsible for climate change to know it's happening? No!'—while trying to rewrite the rules of the game such that we can't do the exact same thing. Hence all that they believe is 'objective truth' while genuinely dissident narratives are entirely the stuff of 'conspiracy theory', 'misinformation', 'propaganda', etc.

    Raspail's novel made no mention of any group causing TGR. We simply have no need to establish causality, and pointless arguments over which heebs, when, why, etc. should be avoided.

    Secondly, let's consider what I'll call the 'Hungarian Argument':

    This is remarkably simple. Heebs often put gentiles as the symbolic head of the institutions they run with the explicit motive of countering 'anti-Semitism'.

    This is the exact reasoning used by Bela Kun's short-lived Communist regime in Hungary. A Hungarian by the name of Sandor Garbai was the de facto head of state while heebs were overwhelmingly represented in the top ranks of government to the point of practically dominating all ministries (e.g. Kun, Erno Gero, John Pepper, Matyas Rakosi, Tibor Szamuely, Jeno Landler, Bela Vago, Bela Szekely, Gyula Lengyel, Jeno Hamburger, Gyorgy Lukacs, Zoltan Ronai, Henrik Kalmar, Eugen Varga, Vilmos Bohm). Garbai was precisely put there by Kun as a figurehead in order to ward off the constant accusations that Kun's regime was essentially heebish (ethnically, not religiously—they were all atheists) rather than Hungarian.

    Does anyone seriously doubt that Joe '... [I]f I were a Jew I would be a Zionist, my father pointed out to me I did not need to be a Jew to be a Zionist, for I am a Zionist' (https://odysee.com/@martinezperspective:2/Biden-Zionist:f) Biden, surrounded by the likes of Blinken, Garland (Garfinkel), Guzman, Haines, Klain, Lander, 'Rachel' Levine, Mayorkas, Neuberger, Yellen, all of whose heebish ancestries are publicly known, is not simply another American Garbai, even more so than Trump? He's openly and proudly Zionist and a dead man walking—the ideal figurehead. If he ever did anything out of order, he'd conveniently 'die of "natural" causes' as we all expect him to do at any moment, and everyone would be none the wiser. The lack of zhids at the very top is thus not an argument against zhid privilege, 'ZOG', etc.

    Striker's #2 is clearly not a counter-argument. Thuletide blames heebs for The Great Reset only for Striker to claim that what amounts to the normies as what we might term a 'reduction to heebery' is in fact insufficiently reductionist.

    Striker's reasoning seems to be deductive:

    1. The heebs are the ultimate cause of most if not all of the DR's problems

    2. Thus TGR, WG, Cultural Marxism have at their roots a heebish cause.

    3. Everything else including 'Left-Right' are merely additional problems subordinate to the JQ ('distraction from race')

    4. Therefore, all time and energy should be spent on the JQ.

    Somehow that deductive argument is supposed to defeat the claim that The Great Reset is also a heebish problem!? So the heebs play a causal role in TGR, WG, Cultural Marxism... but The Great Reset is 100% totally not what the 'conspiracy theorists' believe it is? It is—mysteriously and most unusually from that perspective—somehow exceptional?

    This clearly doesn't follow at all from his argument. The same people pushing 'demographic replenishment' are most of the same people pushing the vax, i.e. the political classes and supranational entities and all the wretched specimens from which they are composed. Why should they be trusted all of a sudden to be the 'good guys' on this one thing when they are the clear bad guys on every other thing? The deduction should instead be simple and without exception if it is to be coherent: everything they push is untrustworthy.

    As an aside, I also don't get how Striker is considered a NazBol if he's literally engaging in 'reduction to heebery' rather than class reductionism.

    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I believe in focusing on key DR issues rather than going into what I consider pointless deviationism

    You only think it's 'pointless deviationism' because you don't think it's a threat? (I could be wrong) The anti vaxx dissidents are doing what they're doing to distract or split the alt right. They are bringing up the issue because it appears to be a threat to whites.

    (e.g. turning the DR into an explicitly anti-Covax [or pro-Covax] movement and shifting most time and energy into Covid [e.g. Millenniyule 2021 with Philosophicat] or turning the DR into something explicitly economically socialist or capitalist and thus splitting the movement along 'NazBol' [e.g. Woods] and 'racist liberal' [e.g. Martinez] lines).

    Now this I strongly agree with. I don't want wedge issues to cleave the DR. I've been saying for years that it's actually our strength that we have different camps with different beliefs and strategies for talking to normies. I'm not calling for a purge of pro vax dissident but they should be confronted and debated. The strongest analysis with the most truth should win out.

    For the record, I find Striker's views less compelling that Thuletide's, presuming they are accurately summarized by the OP.

    Both summaries come directly from the speakers. I posted their telegram. I did no editorial work.

    This is remarkably simple. Heebs often put gentiles as the symbolic head of the institutions they run with the explicit motive of countering 'anti-Semitism'.

    Agreed. Recently they seem to have abandoned the Irish and blacks and started to use Indians. (see silicon valley CEOs)

    Somehow that deductive argument is supposed to defeat the claim that The Great Reset is also a heebish problem!?

    Striker is right that we need to look are root causes. However, imagine going to a normie conservative and telling them that million of people dying from a fake vaccine isn't that important unless they name the Jew. It just doesn't make sense. Let people who are unaware of jewish power still help us fight against the damage caused by Jewish tricks. Employ them in enough 'anti jewish trick activism' and they will eventually connect the dots and see the Jew behind it all.

    The same people pushing 'demographic replenishment' are most of the same people pushing the vax, i.e. the political classes and supranational entities and all the wretched specimens from which they are composed. Why should they be trusted all of a sudden to be the 'good guys' on this one thing when they are the clear bad guys on every other thing?

    This is the biggest problem I have with Striker and Enoch's analysis of the vaccine. They don't let the Jew off the hook on every other attack yet this one gets a pass? Fuck that. We need to mount a full scale counter offensive (rhetorically speaking) again all Jewish attacks on our people. For people that aren't ready to comprehend Jewish power just wake them up to the constant threats to certain group of Americans and help them slowly realize who is attacking who. If someone can't connect the dots on their own after being shown the constant pattern then they probably aren't very valuable for our movement anyway (or they are being paid to deny the connection). I even believe that Tucker Carlson is playing this 'slowly lead the normie to the Jew' game. If he's on air much longer he's going to wake up MILLIONS to the Jew and that will be a good day when that happens.

    As an aside, I also don't get how Striker is considered a NazBol if he's literally engaging in 'reduction to heebery' rather than class reductionism.

    He's really not a nazbol. He's just lumped in with them by people that are constantly seek to divide the DR.

    [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Was it just a telegram exchange or was there an actual debate?

    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    It was just a telegram exchange. I wasn't really thinking when I made the title. Hopefully they do have a debate though.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    These two should have a formal debate hosted by a third party. Perhaps JF or Ralph could host it. It would be the ultimate debate, eclipsing even Jared v Jones.

    [–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    JF or Ralph

    Those early days of IBS were great. Then everyone involved went to pieces. Even Jim is dying of cancer, apparently. Ralph has one of the biggest gunts in the country, and is one of the biggest sexual degenerates. JF seems to have lost his latest potato. Andy went full retard.

    Meanwhile, everyone else is essentially doing boomer talk radio on the internet, as if there's still anything needing debate. It's unfortunate, but Tallest_Skil has been right all along.

    [–]shilldetector 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    By the way who the fuck is thultide, is that varg vikernes?

    [–]NeoRail 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    No.

    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    He's been on the sidebar for about a year.

    https://thuletide.wordpress.com/