A study from the New England Journal of Medicine shows that 8/10 pregnant women suffer miscarriages from the vaccine

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[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The post is still a lie. 127 out of 827 births is 15%, not 80%.

No it isn't.

Read the bolded please.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8117969/

A total of 96 of 104 spontaneous abortions (92.3%) occurred before 13 weeks of gestation (Table 4), and 700 of 712 pregnancies that resulted in a live birth (98.3%) were among persons who received their first eligible vaccine dose in the third trimester.

If a woman is in their third trimester then they're already beyond the point of being able to have a spontaneous abortion as those only happen before 20 weeks of pregnancy. So 700 of the 827 were ineligible to have a spontaneous abortion. The spontaneous abortion rate of this sample is 82%. I'm not sure how to explain this any simpler.

There may be reasons to be hesitant in getting the vaccine if you are pregnant, but I'd be more concerned about long term developmental issues than miscarriage, especially since a covid infection itself is has a proven link to increased miscarriage.

I agree.

So this was just another bullshit covid distraction post, of the kind we see completely filling up the front page of saidit to the exclusion of most everything else, by design.

No it isn't. 700 of the 827 women were not capable of having a spontaneous abortion because they were vaccinated in their third trimester.

[–]shilldetector 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No it isn't. 700 of the 827 women were not capable of having a spontaneous abortion because they were vaccinated in their third trimester.

So what is even the fucking point of bringing up this study? If the vast majority received the vaccine before they were capable of having a miscarriage then how is this study being used to prove that the vaccine causes miscarriages?

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Because 104 of the 127 (82%) non-third trimester vaccinations ended up with spontaneous abortions. That's concerning, both ethically and statistically.

[–]shilldetector 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Now that I have more time to waste on this obvious shitpost, here is the relevant information that totally debunks the claim in the title.

The 127 pregnancies were those that had been completed by the time the preliminary analysis had been conducted and who had their vaccine in the first or second trimester – not the total number of women who had their vaccine in the first or second trimester (1,132 and 1,714, respectively).

The outcomes of many of the pregnancies that were part of the preliminary CDC study are not yet known – as many were still pregnant.

The miscarriage rate among the total number of women in the study who had their vaccine in the first or second trimester would have been 3.65% (104 out of 2,846) – though it is worth noting the study itself was preliminary and the CDC said a new study would be released soon.

So here's the thing. Even if we prove beyond any reasonable doubt that the vaccine isnt causing a massive increase in miscarriages, the Q-boomers will just move on to the next hairbrained theory that makes no logical sense. Disputing this nonsense is like trying to hit a constantly moving target.

Obviously given that pregnant women worldwide have been taking the vaccine prior to and during all stages of pregnancy and beforehand for almost a year now, if it was causing a huge number of miscarriages it would have become big news by now, unless the countless pregnant women of the world are in on the conspiracy?