A study from the New England Journal of Medicine shows that 8/10 pregnant women suffer miscarriages from the vaccine

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I guess that's about the same amount that normally don't make it to term

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Maybe I wrote that out poorly, but a miscarriage rate of 80% is much greater than a 10% miscarriage rate.

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that link says

"However, this rate should be based on the number of women who were at risk of an SA due to vaccine receipt and should exclude the 700 women who were vaccinated in their third-trimester (104/127 = 82%). We acknowledge this rate will likely decrease as the pregnancies of women who were vaccinated <20 weeks complete but believe the rate will be higher than 12.5%. "

First off they shouldn't exclude those women they are still pregnant and might have a healthy baby after 9 months. Or maybe not, who knows, the study needs to wait and see. It says it will likely be higher than 12.5%, ok maybe so but still have to wait and see.

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Okay, I'm going to spell out the study for you.

First off they shouldn't exclude those women they are still pregnant and might have a healthy baby after 9 months.

Yes they should as they were de facto ineligible to have a spontaneous abortion because they were already past the date (20 weeks gestation) where they could be classified as a spontaneous abortion if they had one.

It was much larger than 827 people. The 827 are a sample from a larger population. 700 of the women vaccinated in the study were in their third trimester, and per the definition of spontaneous abortion (miscarriage at <=20 weeks gestation) they were de facto ineligible to have a spontaneous abortion. Hence the rate found in the study is 104/127 and not 104/827.

From the study, the 700 resulted in a live birth, they don't need further follow regarding the viability of their pregnancy since they've given birth.

A total of 96 of 104 spontaneous abortions (92.3%) occurred before 13 weeks of gestation (Table 4), and 700 of 712 pregnancies that resulted in a live birth (98.3%) were among persons who received their first eligible vaccine dose in the third trimester.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

thatsa the semantics it doesn't matter

we need to include all babies whether it is past 20 weeks or not. oh 80% are either miscarried or not born yet cuz the woman is still [pregnant. sounds bad if it's all dead right! But that might not be.

no it wasn't more than 827 people, this study isn't for every single human. That is ludicrous.

It makes sense the study isn't done yet. When did they start giving people of pregnancy age the vaccine? When was this study released. Was it less than 9 months after? That explains this.

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

K, you don't know what you're talking about. Your complete disregard of what is written in the paper indicates that you're likely a troll or possibly drunk and/or high.