An honest question to the pro-vax people on this sub, why do you trust the state on the vaccine issue?

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[–]proc0 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

This alone disproves anything about vaccines being a bioweapon

That's not what I'm saying. It could very well be a global ID card that is used for everything, from shopping to having a bank account. What better way to role it out than a global pandemic. They had everything ready and once this "accident" happened (but it could have just been natural, whatever) all wheels are set in motion to get everyone tracked. How else could this happen? Nobody is going to agree to having a global ID of some kind, if you give people the choice, right?

And even if that's not true, maybe the intention is to keep rolling out drugs of different kinds and forcing it on people for whatever reason they create. Trust in the institutions is at a record low, and they're not making it better. As you're saying "they found out their vaccines were trash because they're rushed". Why wouldn't they force an mRNA flu shot next year?

Where is the line in terms of forcing treatments on people, they sure haven't drawn one (and some messaging has already hinted at this being forever).

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Nobody is going to agree to having a global ID of some kind, if you give people the choice, right?

Bro, yes they would and they have been. We've been transitioning to a cashless society for a long time. Your whereabouts and all communications are monitored on your smartphone. What you're talking about already exists in pretty much the exact form you're describing. Convenience already sleepwalked people into the techno-dystopia you see in the future, over a decade ago.

I don't think they're going to start doing those things tbh. A pandemic is a unique case where they can do vaccine cash grabs, it's pretty paranoid to expect this to continue in perpetuity imo.

[–]proc0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I mistyped. I meant you won't get a vast majority of people to agree. Phones are still optional to a great extent, with many options that don't have all the features, etc.

it's pretty paranoid to expect this to continue in perpetuity imo.

I certainly hope you're right.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know where you live but I don't know a single person who doesn't have a smartphone in post-industrial England. Maybe a few older people in rural areas might not give a fuck about it but I'd say 95%+ of western people below the age of 60 has smartphones nowadays.