I think the White Nationalist cause needs to be pragmatic if we want to succeed.

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[–]DragonerneJesus is white 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

I personally think the opposite is true. We should be way more militant and intolerant.

But ultimately we need to take all approaches and see what sticks. Whichever method is efficient will survive, spread and mutate.

[–]Oingo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yup. There are many paths to survival.

[–]Salos60000Pragmatic European Nationalism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

The problem I see is that like I mentioned we're on a time limit with the climate crisis reaching its peak being the crescendo. We need to have a solid grip of power by then.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We're currently enslaved by psychopathic Jewish elites and our race is basically dying out, so sea levels rising a couple of centimeters and the weather becoming a bit warmer isn't really high on my list of concerns right now. After we've liberated ourselves (hopefully as soon as possible), we can just protect our coastlines from rising sea levels with huge dikes (like the Northern European Enclosure Dam), fully transition to nuclear energy, and cool down the earth by greening the deserts with water from desalination plants anyways.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I will take this opportunity to remind everyone of this: https://imgur.com/l10fOXW

When we win, do not forget that these people want us dead, etc.

There is no pragmatism to be had nor any mercy to be shown.

[–]AcceleratedWallops 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (18 children)

In what way do white people not have a solid grip of power?

Y'all fucking nuts

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

If us white people truly still have a solid grip of power nowadays, then why are our countries flooded with millions of non-white immigrants by the system without our consent, why do we get attacked by the system (getting fired from our jobs, getting our bank accounts frozen, being put on no-fly lists, getting investigated by intelligence agencies, getting fined or imprisoned for "hate speech", etc.) whenever we protest this forced demographic replacement or dare to call out Jewish overrepresentation in positions of power, while simultaneously being praised by the system for talking about "white privilege", "systemic racism", "anti-Semitism" and for wanting white people to go extinct?

White people are generally still alowed to live a relatively normal life as long as they don't question the system's attack on their race or the Jewish role in it and express hatred of their own race, but as soon as a white individual goes against this he risks losing his livelihood and any power he used to have. That doesn't sound like white people having a solid grip of power.

[–]AcceleratedWallops 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

So you're saying if white people truly had power, you'd be able to get away with being a shitty person?

...are you fucking kidding me?

Lol, "my actions have consequences therefore white people don't have power" is the most ass-backwards third-grader logic I've ever heard.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

There's no reasonable way in which protesting against the genocide of your own race or simply pointing out the overrepresentation of certain groups in positions of power (in this case Jews) makes someone a shitty person, unless you're anti-white or a Jewish supremacist (which you're clearly both). You literally want to exterminate white people, so you aren't really in the position to talk shit about your enemies being shitty people regardless.

Besides, if us whites were truly in power, why the hell wouldn't we use our power to our full extent to fully suppress anti-whites and their activities. If the system actually was white supremacist, as you and your ilk love to pretend it is in order to justify violence against random white people, subhuman psychopathic anti-white scum like you would literally be lifetime slaves, which you fully deserve since you're genocidal terrorists. ;)

PS: Just a reminder that your nigger saint, Fentanyl Floyd, is still burning in hell for robbing a pregnant woman at gunpoint, among other things. <3

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Excellent comment.

[–]AcceleratedWallops 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Wow your bar is low

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And your skin color is not white. We both have things to deal with, so no need to make it personal. Better keep it high on the pyramid.

[–]AcceleratedWallops 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ah, so you are literally retarded.

I was going to try to slowly guide you into realizing that white supremacy is actually just a strong sense of entitlement coupled with fear, but you've been drinking the stuff under the sink.

Ciao.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You only call me retarded because I refuse to kiss your ass, if I had become an anti-white leftist (like you) and would've argued in your defense you probably would've praised me. If anyone is retarded, it's white people who hate their own race. They're genetically messed up to the point where they're literally so mentally ill that they not only lack any group survival instinct, but even actively fight against it. But judging by your post history, you're non-white, so I guess from your perspective it makes sense to try and undermine white group interests.

"White supremacy" in the sense you anti-white vermin use it is just an anti-white slur used against any whites who don't cuck to other races and who want their own kind to continue to exist and prosper, to justify violence and persecution against them, because you hate whites and want them to go extinct. If your warped definition of "white supremacy" was correct, then white supremacy wouldn't even have been a thing until a 100 years (or less) ago since whites didn't have to fear anything as they still were in power back then, which just goes to show the utter ridiculousness of defining white supremacy as "a sense of entitlement + fear".

But even if we went by your definition of "white supremacy": Us whites are absolutely entitled to be supreme in our own countries, and fear is absolutely normal and rational, given how quickly and effectively rich and powerful Jews have been able to remove us whites from power in our own countries, and given the huge amounts of crime and violence from non-white scum which us whites have to deal with in our own countries, in the same sense that fear for a highly intelligent extraterrestrial species invading and conquering the earth (and thus removing us humans from our position of power on our own planet, if not outright enslaving or exterminating us) or fear for a pack of silverback gorillas that escaped from the zoo would be normal and rational.

[–]AidsVictim69 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

A lot of the elite being white does not mean that whites as a group have significant political power or that those white elites are acting in the interests of the average white - in fact just the opposite is true.

[–]AcceleratedWallops 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So whites having power but using it in a way you disagree with means whites don't have power? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

[–]AidsVictim69 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Elite (those of the capital or highly credentialed bourgeoise classes) whites have power, just like elite blacks or Jews do. This means nothing for the average white in terms of having power within society, elite whites are mostly anti white (for whites outside their class), no power is transferred to some white group socio-political body.

[–]AcceleratedWallops 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why do you focus on whites? This is true of all elites and all average people, of all races. If your issue is class warfare you don't need to factor race into it at all.

[–]AidsVictim69 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Race cannot be separated from the material and social conditions of society. It's simultaneously true that the average white is affected by both their class and race, the latter being part of their "material conditions" (literally their genetics) as much as class is. The idea that everything must be viewed either through a purely class lens or otherwise be a false consciousness propagated by the elite is a false dichotomy used by leftists as anti racial and ultimately contradictory anti materialist view.

I focus on whites because I am white, desire to live in a white society, and have multiple actors within society working against my individual and group interests as a white. Saying "race" doesn't matter no more affects the material reality of ones genetics than saying class doesn't matter affects the reality of ones material conditions.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

There's many ways of disproving the idea that whites rule for themselves and their own -- which is the part that matters not whether there are merely white individuals who happen to occupy positions of power.

I like to put it like this though: the idea of white power in this society is self-defeating because of the very fact you can criticise white power. You can deconstruct white power, mock it, belittle it and start entire institutions which the state and private individuals will fund which are dedicated SOLELY to supplanting alleged white hegemony. That's not how power works, is it? In a country where whites ruled as whites and for other whites none of that would be possible because whites would use their power to suppress marginalise and ultimately destroy the forces attempting to deligitimize them.

As a simple comparison consider how Jews react to people making the exact same claims about them that are brought up in your standard spiel about 'white privilege'. Jews mobilise and use their influence and institutions to destroy, silence, censor and generally make life difficult for those people. That's called ACTUAL POWER.

Whites don't do that because they have no actual power as whites. Like I said the idea of white power is self-defeating simply because you can actually talk about it and still keep your job -- in fact if you talk about it enough you'll get tenure at a good uni.

[–]peaceful✞ 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Whites don't do that because they have no actual power as whites.

Whites do have power they just don't want to use it to take their own side because they believe in colorblind anti-racism. Most of the government, police force, and people on television have always been white

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They don't have power in the first place to use and if they wanted to or tried the system would actively try to destroy them. The closest comparison is saying 'Well Whites have all the power they're working at this McDonalds they just don't want to use it.' Which is obviously a ridiculous idea. The person who owns the McDonalds has the power not their minions.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

>literally regurgitating Jewish shitlib talking points

[–]AcceleratedWallops 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

White power isn't power because it's not absolute power? C'mon man, try harder.