The US spent $60 billion rebuilding Iraq after the 2003 war. There is virtually nothing to show for the money. Most of the money seems to have been stolen by US defense contractors.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-23T20:36:36+00:00

The Pentagon has trillions of dollars of "accounting errors" all the damn time.

The military industrial complex is a thief.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-22T19:54:14+00:00

Correct.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-22T16:20:05+00:00

Because bathroom rapes have never happened before this...🙄

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-22T04:08:39+00:00

If you don't care to explain your nebulous points, sure.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-22T02:38:23+00:00

Oh, the one where we're ignoring what actually happened. Gotcha.

Ought to be worried about both. One exascerbates the other.

...the immigrants are building robots now?

Another false dillemma. You should read more.

I don't think so. On the one hand we have some poor people just looking for a better life, on the other we have some greedy fucks taking advantage of them. If you are worried about illegal immigration, then you should support harsher penalties for knowingly employing them and an easier path to citizenship, which would make it significantly harder for them to be taken advantage of.

And I read plenty, but thanks. But it sounds like you should stop watching OANN and take your own advice.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-21T16:28:25+00:00

Omg a reasonable position? On s/politics?!

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-21T15:13:32+00:00

Let me know when people start plastering their houses with Biden flags like they did for Trump, and then we can discuss if this artsy lights display at a ceremony worked.

🙄

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-21T15:10:31+00:00

Oh, and "You're not even trying to see your own blindness" is way up there, huh?

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-21T14:11:06+00:00

Only to idiots who also argue in bad faith.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-21T14:10:47+00:00

Nothing about this clip was Orwellian. I'm pointing out the ridiculousness of this post.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-21T14:09:53+00:00

I love how you just assume what stuff I believe. Are you that desperate for a strawman?

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-21T14:08:45+00:00

🙄

The economy is not a zero-sum game;
- You should be more worried about losing your job to automation than immigrants;
- If your employer hires an illegal immigrant, is that the immigrant's fault, or your employer's?

Are we talking about the protest where people planted IEDs, brought molotov cocktails and zip ties, and had lists of names of targets? That one? The one where their expressed goal was to kill Nancy Pelosi?

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-21T03:25:45+00:00

Thanks!

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-21T03:25:28+00:00

The pain is realizing there's people falling for this shit.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-21T01:24:13+00:00

Ah, a different clip then. I see.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-21T01:21:51+00:00

The network with two minutes of hate is OANN. It was on at work once, and they literally just showed a red screen with made-up stats about how many jobs immigrants have taken in the past hour while some discordant tone played in the background. It was fucking disturbing.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-21T01:19:07+00:00

What part of that clip suggested that Biden was all powerful or that you must love Biden?

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-20T23:06:39+00:00

so thrilled to see their culture replaced

Alright, I'll bite.

What in the fuck are you talking about?

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-20T22:58:36+00:00

Petition to rename s/debatealtright to s/racists

Don't want to confuse newcomers

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-20T17:18:48+00:00

How is this Orwellian?

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-20T17:00:32+00:00

Good for the UK. No one deserves to live under the crushing force of the CCP's thumb.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-20T16:57:59+00:00

"incelosphere"

Fucking lol

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-17T05:42:29+00:00

Ahh yes...hospitals all across the world are conspiring! Of course! It's a much simpler explanation than a virus -- have you ever SEEN a virus? Or "germs"?

To conservatives, threats must have agency or they simply don't exist. 🤷‍♂️

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-17T05:35:02+00:00

Like a kid throwing a tantrum.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-16T05:18:07+00:00

I'm too lazy for a long response right now, but I want to point out that neoliberals != left.

Like seriously stop blaming us for their shit.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-16T05:14:06+00:00

Because one candidate has followers who won't believe in a virus until they themselves get it.

But also, "we have a cult" isn't real reasoning anyway.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-15T23:59:35+00:00

I'm not really sure how to access court documents, despite them being (allegedly) public record.... Trying to find them on the internet just yields a bunch of scummy-sounding companies who will do searches for a fee.

But yeah, since people no longer trust journalists it would be nice to read the documents ourselves.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-15T23:56:54+00:00

How about:

In a country where police can murder with no repercussions and seize assets at their leisure; protests can last for months, bringing violence, but still be completely ignored in terms of meaningful change by the government; and the President can spend all day tweeting lies and inciting civil war, why is it so far fetched to think that the majority of Americans were indeed fed up with Trump's constant bullshit and abject failure to govern?

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-15T19:07:04+00:00

the law abiding find theft to be a line that should not be crossed

PFFFFFFFFT why'd y'all vote Trump then? 🤣

Even when he snagged $500 billion of the stimulus, y'all were fine with it...

(On topic: the election wasn't stolen. Recall that Trump has been talking about election fraud since 2016, an election THAT HE WON. Sowing discord and doubt is the whole point.)

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-15T19:01:42+00:00

Didn't they do numerous audits in multiple states?

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-15T18:59:07+00:00

Freenet?

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-14T04:56:24+00:00

If you asked average Democrats and Republicans about their economic values, you probably wouldn't get wildly diverging answers.

Maybe, maybe not. I've talked to some conservatives who are firm believers in trickle-down jesus, and I've talked to some who, as you pointed out, are ready for those $2000 checks.

opinion that family is an evil patriarchical construct that must be abolished

This is not a real though. You're strawmanning. (And before you go looking: I'm sure it's "real" on twitter and tumblr. But I've never met anyone like that in real life, despite living in one of the Bluest states. The twitterists are loud but they do not represent the left anymore than the kkk represents the right.)

the neoliberal censorship that is the reason this website exists.

Again, I don't consider neolibs "the left." If anything I'd consider them auth center. I think most leftists would agree that censorship is bad (although we are happy to call out people for being racist assholes).

If you set up a candidate who is anti-war and pro-welfare for Americans, I guarantee you that you could get conservatives to support that candidate in droves as long as they leave the culture stuff behind

So...Bernie? (Although I suppose he has been more outspoken about guns in recent years.)

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-14T02:27:04+00:00

~~due to Yankee colonization~~

due to Republicans thinking tax cuts balance a budget

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-14T02:25:44+00:00

You sure it's not all those trailer park meth heads? 🤔

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-13T20:58:52+00:00

Liberate the south from sucking up my tax dollars

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-13T20:58:05+00:00

If that were true she would've been cancelled by now.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-13T20:56:11+00:00

Meanwhile, Comcast and TWC: side_eye_puppet.jpeg

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-13T20:50:37+00:00

This is where your opinion is the opposite of tens of millions of Americans.

Irrelevant. Truth does not care how many people believe it, and the last four years have shown that a large percentage of Americans will believe pretty much anything.

it's a problem when a large percentage of the population believes the government is illegitimate.

Yes, agreed, and this is actually a pretty big deal, and unfortunately right out of Foundations of Geopolitics. And there doesn't really seem to be a good solution (letting an angry mob reinstall Trump certainly is not it). As to the claims of fraud themselves, there will be a segment of the population who will always believe them no matter what, and on the other hand verifying legitimacy of these is difficult especially when multiple people have admitted to being paid to make those statements/videos. That being said, as far as I know, none of the claims would be "enough" fraud to swing the election regardless and there hasn't been any evidence of widespread fraud.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-13T18:02:40+00:00

I may have misunderstood your initial comment.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-13T13:38:16+00:00

LOL of course it's the SJWs fault Trump's team can't muster any evidence. LOL the mental gymnastics, I love it, fucking adorable

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-13T13:36:27+00:00

In that case, why would you believe anything Trump says?

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-13T13:34:46+00:00

My point is, are your problems with liberalism or actually with corporatism?

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-13T13:34:09+00:00

Yes, I was being facetious.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-13T04:09:18+00:00

Lie? Do you have some evidence that Guiliani doesn't know about?

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-13T02:53:27+00:00

Thought exercise: how much power could a company owned by a single individual, or a partnership, realistically acquire? Is oligarchy fostered by private ownership, or by the construct known as the corporation?

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-13T02:51:40+00:00

Ah yes, the grand conspiracy of every judge in the country!

Or could it be...Guiliani says different things in the courtroom than he says on TV, and the judges find it absolutely ridiculous because they aren't retarded? 🤔

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-13T02:50:10+00:00

You're likening referring to others by what they want to be called to organized religion.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-13T02:48:58+00:00

Cute.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-13T02:48:13+00:00

Trump was a total fuckshow. From day 1 he was appointing his completely incompetent family members everywhere so they could help him grift off the taxpayer's teat.

You've been manipulated by propaganda.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-13T02:47:12+00:00

😘

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-13T02:46:50+00:00

You mistake me -- legitimate elections are absolutely necessary. But evidence, in this case, is sorely lacking.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-12T22:32:00+00:00

Shit man, you better bring this evidence to Guiliani so maybe he can actually win a court case. 🙄

Urban counties voting Democrat? My god, unheard of!

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-12T22:27:43+00:00

It's almost like we could've foreseen the riots in the streets, the thousands of Americans dead, and economic collapse coming...Some may wonder, how did you know Trump would be the worst president of all time? Magic, perhaps? Was there any evidence beforehand of his woeful incompetence and corruption?

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-12T22:19:44+00:00

There's no plugging of the ears, my man. Bring forth some actual evidence and we'll be glad to see it.

Unlike conservatives, liberals aren't blindly loyal to their tribe.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-12T22:17:39+00:00

If you're friends, sure, they might find it funny, I guess. Otherwise they'll probably find it disrespectful.

How is this hard.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-12T18:30:59+00:00

*Parler, fucking autocorrect

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-12T18:29:11+00:00

You're welcome!

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-12T18:28:58+00:00

I suppose, as an asshole you consider acting like an asshole to be correct.

Indeed this is a tricky situation.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-12T17:01:34+00:00

That was it. If you are determined to be an asshole, so be it. Just don't whine when other people call you out on it.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-12T16:59:21+00:00

Imagine thinking Americans are stupid enough to elect a corrupt idiot for a second term, and being so adamant in this belief that you think the election was stolen, all despite Trump's team being unable to find any evidence at all capable of holding up in court, and the multiple postal workers/poll workers/etc claiming that they do have actual evidence all later admitting they made it up and some admitting they were being paid to do it.

🤷‍♂️

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-12T14:41:31+00:00

Where did you find this definition of liberalism?

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-12T14:40:24+00:00

Point is you sound like a dick who isn't worth hanging out with.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-12T14:39:00+00:00

Oligarchy.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-12T14:38:36+00:00

That's quite the leap you're making.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-12T03:23:43+00:00

Well I doubt Nicholas would be missing much.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-12T02:56:53+00:00

Ford v Dodge

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-12T02:56:16+00:00

How often you fuck your sister?

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-12T02:47:46+00:00

Yeah, exactly. This person feels more comfortable if you call him "Nick", this person feels more comfortable if you call them "they."

See? Easy. Nothing to get your panties twisted about.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-12T02:25:22+00:00

I'm far left, but Greenwald is actually pretty legit.

Although the claim of "zero" is hard to believe since there were a lot of people. But I'll chalk it up to hyperbole.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-12T02:12:21+00:00

Wow? How is it rude? Just call people what they want to be called, it's not hard.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-12T00:04:46+00:00

Yeah, they do that shit, and it's fucking rude.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-11T21:08:18+00:00

If you say "Hello Nicholas" and he replies, "Please call me Nick", you gonna call him Nick like he asked or keep saying "Nicholas" just to spite him?

It's the same thing if someone says "please refer to me as they". Just don't be fucking rude, it's pretty goddamn easy.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-11T20:01:36+00:00

Some failed businessman who keeps screaming at everyone for attention

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-11T19:33:34+00:00

Liberalism (aka rule by the financial elites).

Nope.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-11T19:31:23+00:00

There's questioning and doubting, and then there's literally just making shit up. Trump and the alt right absolutely love the latter. I'm sure Feynman, as a scientist, would love to argue about your right to just pull data out of your ass and pass it off as fact.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-11T19:28:04+00:00

Y'all spend way too much time thinking about what's in other people's pants.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-11T19:26:14+00:00

Ford v Dodge

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-11T19:24:54+00:00

How would you maintain ideology in the military? That's just the same problem but with guns and camo.

Don't forget that the Supreme Court is supposed to be "ideologically loyal" (via lifetime appointments) and is now heavily politicized, as well as the Senate (originally supposed to be "the best of the best" appointed by States), now corrupt corporatists. (Seriously some of the comments about the Senate in the Federalist Papers are just funny to read nowadays.)

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-11T17:25:17+00:00

The logical leaps in this....oof.

The most obvious one: you praise Chinese autocracy while also denouncing Mao. So yes, while the "benevolent king" archetype is the "easiest" form of government, the problem lies in what happens when your king is no longer benevolent--"lunacy" as you called it. And from history we know that this happens eventually to a society with certainty.

The whole point of Western democracy is to reduce the concentration of power to prevent that lunacy.

two corporate puppets every four years.

And here you point out our current problem. Despite our elaborate system of checks and balances, government power in the US is currently very concentrated. Your proposed solution is to concentrate it even further? Ridiculous.

While many of your complaints are valid, your conclusion is way off the mark.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-10T01:21:04+00:00

Lol ok sure. As if police brutality--both in general and against blacks--hasnt been a problem for 50+ years.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-09T20:53:11+00:00

There's nothing to debate. There's no nuance necessary for this conversation. Hitler was the epitome of evil, and if you aren't able to recognize that, there is something mentally wrong with you.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-09T20:51:50+00:00

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-09T20:51:29+00:00

Not sure what you're getting at

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-08T23:07:27+00:00

Mm hmm

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-08T23:07:15+00:00

Pure evil.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-08T21:52:07+00:00

I do not lobe my cage, but I'm also not retarded enough to think fascism is a good thing

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-08T21:51:27+00:00

Ima take it you're a Holocaust denier.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-08T21:19:22+00:00

White people aren't used to consequences

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-08T21:03:24+00:00

For the same reasons they were allowed to shoot unarmed people at BLM protests, I'd imagine.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-08T21:01:14+00:00

Trump: attempts coup and incites a riot in the Capitol

Trumptards: "Democrats are cementing their coup"

Lolwut

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-08T20:58:51+00:00

Advocating for Hitler makes you a fucking retard, full stop.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-08T20:56:17+00:00

I just browse All, dude.

But I'm glad you'd rather be enslaved by a genocidal maniac. Have fun with that

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-08T18:46:31+00:00

Hitler was one of the absolute biggest problems of the twentieth century. Excuse me for assuming this guy is retarded for trying to unironically present Hitler as a solution.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-08T16:07:20+00:00

Lol how the fuck you go from listing all these problems to the conclusion "we need a new Hitler"

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-08T00:53:15+00:00

Interesting post. Responding as someone who you would consider far-left:

conservative values

How about we start by defining what these are? Because in modern times, it seems to be "whatever the left doesn't like." And when I ask individuals this question, the answers usually either 1) seem pretty fucking left to me, or 2) are not at all what Republican/conservative politicians are doing or have expressed desire to do. And then it becomes a "no true scotsman" shitstorm conversation that gets nowhere.

Something I also find difficult - separating conservatism from Republicanism. No one seems to have a clear answer, other than "Republicanism is the aspects I don't like."

without providing any positive and constructive solutions

Another bit I find puzzling -- one of the central tenets of modern conservatism is "if we ignore a problem long enough, it won't be a problem anymore." Conservatives are the opposition party. It's in the name -- progressives present solutions (attempt to make progress) and conservatives move to conserve the status quo and block the changes. This often seems to be a mindset of "don't fix it if it ain't broke", "the cure will be worse than the disease", or the aforementioned "just ignore it" as reasons to just keep doing the same stuff we've been doing.

So it's interesting that you seem interested in actually, you know, improving things. 🙂

One small correction:

the Left controls the media

The neoliberals control the media. Don't forget that they shit all over Bernie.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-08T00:25:25+00:00

You're the one trying to justify the usage of bombs because they were outside the building. Fuck off.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-07T18:23:09+00:00

Not at all. It's just you've been thoroughly brainwashed.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-07T17:35:42+00:00

The level of delusion you Trumpies employ is astounding.

AcceleratedWallops · 2021-01-07T16:49:31+00:00

He's $400 million in debt. He's a former billionaire pretending to still be one.

AcceleratedWallops