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[–]IslamofascistDeath to America, Death to Israel, Death to The Ukraine 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It sort of goes back to that Hitler quote -- which I think Schmitt or Heidegger may have said first -- that Bolshevism was the bastard child of Christianity which I sort of agree with but ultimately think is misleading.

The quote is "Christian theology is the grandmother of Bolshevism." And it was said by Oswald Spengler.

Also I would argue that there is an innate hostility most liberals posses towards Christianity which is because of a proper recognition of just how fundamentally opposed to their worldview Christianity really is but then again people could counter and say that it's merely two sets of high priests jostling for power and reflects that and not a fundamental conflict of ideals.

Liberals hate competing religions in general. The reason why Western liberals hate Christianity so much is because Christianity was the dominant religion of the West and thus forms the backdrop of Western society. Similarly, liberals from the Middle East and North Africa hate Islam because Islam forms the backdrop of MENA societies, and liberals from India hate Classical Hinduism because Hinduism forms the backdrop of Indian society.

I'd say Protestantism was definitely a precursor to the rise of liberalism though. Whatever one may think of the current Pope and his idiotic liberal musings at its core the Catholic church is profoundly illiberal. Protestantism gave rise to hyper-individualism and the idea that any mad freak could just interpret and practice the faith in any kooky way they chose. I see nothing fundamentally liberal about the way most Orthodox Christians practice their faith either and that's something the 'Christianity is cucked' people don't seem eager to explain.

It is astonishing that on this forum, which is based on the "Alt-Right" ideology, you give so much credence to theology and religious ideologies over racial biology. Doesn't the Alt-Right consider culture to be downstream from biology? If you consider Protestantism to be "definitely the precursor to the rise of liberalism", then from where does Protestantism emerge? Why did Protestantism specifically take hold in Northern Europe and not in Southern Europe or the Mediterranean? How come countries like Ethiopia and Armenia, which were Christian for much longer than any place in Northern Europe, never saw a movement like Protestantism even though they also had a Church similar to the Church of Rome?

Don't pussyfoot around the answer. Protestantism - and therefore liberalism - is a specific product of the Germanic race. An Ethiopian Christian could have never produced an ideology like Protestantism. The fact that Jews were involved in Liberalism and Marxism is a secondary effect. Jews were around for many centuries, and they were irrelevant for most of that time. Jews became prominent only thanks to the ascendancy of the Germanic West. In other words, the rise of Jewish power is concomitant with the rise of the West. Thus, what will it take to destroy Jewish power?

There's the final red pill for you.

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I, for myself, don't buy in the pure biological arguments. They are irrilevants and inconsistents from an ethnic perspective. They are also prominent among nordicists, which i dont' like. Probably in the forum there's a variety of people with different degrees of opinions, only a small portion of them beeing "true" american alt-righters. It's a debate forum after all.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Spengler said it. Thank you. I always forget that.

[–]LetssavethefirsworldReturn to Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The answer to your question is 3 fold.

  1. Ethiopia was Protestant for hundreds of years, but they (rejoined the Church)[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coptic_Catholic_Church#]. Know your history my friend

  2. History is sometimes driven by great people. Germany produced Martin Luther. A 'Great man' who convinced much of Germany to reject Catholicism. His words then swept through Europe and we're amplified by different groups in Europe. King Henry became Protestant just to divorce his wife. Unsurprisingly, the closer to Rome you are the less likely you are to reject the one true Church.

  3. Protestantism largely rises from Renaissance era thinking. Around this time, Europe was no longer in a crisis of faith from Islam conquest. They turned their eyes towards hyper rationalism. This caused a lot of people to question the way the Church was run and many people (Martin Luther) had great criticisms of the Church. Many became Protestants