The idea that secession is impossible is ridiculous. In fact, secession is almost certainly going to happen.
First, people in this camp have been seriously entertaining the idea of secession now for many years. To come here and say something like "hurr durr, no legal rowt to suckseed!" is pedestrian, and not an original idea we have never seen before. It's an NPC talking point for leftist ""people"" who lack imagination. We do not need a "legal route to secession" - and neither did any other state that has left a larger union in the past (Anglosphere states, ex-soviet states, ex-Yugoslavia states, Philippines, Czech-Slovakia, etc.) It should go without saying that we already have no respect for the legitimacy of the federal government if we want to secede. So, why should we give a fuck as to what they define a "legal route" as? It's a stupid reason to try to justify denying self-determination to people who want it.
All it takes to secede from the US is for a state to have a referendum, the populace vote to secede, and the federal government not to intervene. This would mean the state and citizens stop paying federal taxes, stop taking federal money, and federal assets are either purchased or given up at whatever the fair price is
"But muh Sivil War!!1!" Sure, Lincoln was dead-set on preserving the Union in 1863 - but it wasn't until the attack on Fort Sumter that Lincoln actually tried to invade the South (not the formal declarations of secession)
Just because a country fights wars to keep places from breaking off doesn't mean they'll do it twice or do it again. The British fought the Americans, lost, and let it go. They could have gotten them back in 1812, but didnt try. Then later, they let Australia, NZ, Canada, and many other territories leave peacefully. The Bolsheviks were fanatical about holding on to the former Russian Empire, and annexed much of eastern europe after WWII - but when the Soviet Union collapsed, they just let most of these areas leave
Even modern countries do/can separate peacefully. For instance, Czechoslovakia
The US will not last forever. No country lasts forever. Eventually - whether now or 100 years from now - the US WILL break up - and we have this time to decide now - politely - how that might go down
The White Ethnostate
The concept of a "White Ethnostate" (Israel for white gentiles, but "better") has always been a prominent idea here. It is simultaneously a rhetorical device and a hypothetical real thing. Practical plans have been drawn up for this before (e.g. NW Imperative, etc.) The most recent and humble of these plans was put forth by AltHype in 2018 or so - The White Ethnostate - Ryan makes a very commonsensical and realistic proposal for this here.
About ~5% of whites, or 11 million people, were willing to tell pollsters that they agree with the Alt-Right in ~2016. This number is undoubtedly higher now, ignoring the fact the label "Alt-Right" is now sort of a perjoritive. 13 states have a population of <2M, and the Dakotas, Montana, and Wyoming have a combined population of less than 4M. If we wanted to get a white separatist majority in these states and had enough coordination, we could all just move there and have exactly that. Hold a referendum, vote to secede, then hope the federal government doesn't try to intervene (just as the British, Soviets, etc. have not before)
Support for Secession Is Not Low
Not only do "extremists" want to secede - ""normal"" people want to secede. From Newsweek: "47% of West Coast Dems, 66% of Southern Republicans Want to Secede From U.S."
Think it's not real? Well, consider that it's already practically happening:
Rural Oregon counties are trying to join Idaho:
Virginia counties are leaving to join West Virginia
I think this evidence is ample enough to demonstrate that secession is fairly popular - but there is more, if we want to go there. How secession actually happens on a grand scale however (ideally) is that there would be some "pan-secessionist party" that sweeps the united states. A party who's only goal is dividing up the US into different new states. This would ally West-Coast liberals and Texans - which, combined with other data, suggests such an election would be over and this party would win. Also by Ryan - Breaking up the United States (AltHype).
Is secession still a pipe dream? Well, maybe - but we have a better plan than you do.
If You're a Unionist, You're Screwed
At least as far as the data and ideological/moral consistency goes. As Ed Dutton talks about in this vid, desire for separation is probably genetically-based, and will only accelerate, given current conditions. On top of the fact, if you're a Unionist, you have to manhandle what is basically a failed state with 25% of global GDP. Consider:
This model forecast the US's current unrest a decade ago. It now says 'civil war'. Many other models of polarization suggest that we have not been so politically polarized since the Civil War
70% of Republicans believe the election was rigged, and it almost certainly was. We (DebateAltRight) dont really give a fuck as to what jewish dick-sucking shill occupies the white house at any given time - but the point is that you, as an establishmentarian, have to actually fake elections now - and, more importantly - the bulk of white americans don't trust you anymore. Throughout the entire first term of Trump's presidency, the left and the media was constantly barraging us with unfounded claims of a "russian" conspiracy and the illigitmacy of Trump election - with zero proof. But now - now that we have all the evidence of fraud we ever could be expected to have - absolutely nothing will ever be done about it. You will have to try (and fail) to historically justify this, forever
Your president is literally demented. Biden cannot even form sentences. As much as Trump could be deemed a bibi dick-sucking bombastic, lying, retard - at least he demonstrated signs of being cognitively present. Nobody - on either the right, or the left - actually believes that Biden is in control or running the show. It's not possible to sustain that illusion. He is, by far, the most obvious puppet-president ever
If you are a Unionist, you have to somehow fix all of these and otherwise unstated problems - or at least reframe the issues in a way that normal people "buy it" - at the cost of your cognitive dissonance, of course. How do you realistically expect to ammend this retarded tyranny? Or rather, at least, fix the complete lack of trust from the populace you pretend to represent? The US was 90% white in 1960 - how do you plan to put humpty-dumpty back together again now?
Obviously, "you won't" - and no white American should trust you to try. You will have to sacrifice everything you pretend to stand for in order to secure the union - through censorship, media control, and imprisonment, etc. Instead, maybe you should not be so anti-democratic, and just give the people what they want.
Secession WILL Happen (Sorry)
The US is fucked. It's beyond repair. This is a sane, rational observation of the facts that be. Say nothing of 9/11, Epstein, third world immigration, covid, or any of the other horrific conspiracies that have been assailed against the american populace over the last century. A lot of people want secession - so just give it to them. It's the "liberal" thing to do. Ironically, the same kinds of leftish people who celebrate independence for so many others - whether in Sudan, Kosovo, Israel, or wherever - are the same people who want to tell US whites they are not ever allowed to escape totalitarian leftist hell. Fuck you. Not only are you a hypocritical, pro-establishment shill (larping as a rebel against "the system") - but you're an anti-freedom faggot that embodies nothing the US was ever founded for. You can either keep being a shill for the Judeo-neoliberal oligarchy - or, find some courage, and at least acknowledge the fact that the people who want to escape have valid complaints, and should be allowed the right to leave and strike out on their own. No one cares what a "legal route to secession" is - and if you find it, you can shove it up your ass.