A hot take: Socialism is a more advanced form of government fit only for advanced races

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

My primary issue with socialism is that it is a overly centralized society. Sounds awesome if the people in charge are making the best decisions in the interests of the people but makes it difficult to run away from if it is run by despots and traitors. Ideally, the state should be centralized to be a efficient, moral and orderly run society while also making the people strong and independent enough to overthrow it if a bad despot or a group of traitors assumes power. In the distant future if technology continues to advance, it will be impossible to overthrow an advanced civilization with autonomous robots and drones armed with machine guns. You can't overthrow a country that doesn't need a large population to keep the civilization running. The globalists will have reached their end game where the remaining human population will be eternal slaves. I don't think we should allow such power get into the wrong hands in any state.

[–]Nombre27 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Well said. This is why I find it so funny/weird that commies/socialists are so averse to fascist/3P economic organization. It's basically a way for them to get what they want (checks/balances on corps, social mobility, re-distribution/proportionality, etc.) so long as they compromise regarding organic hierarchies. Really shows how fucking dumb they are.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But Communists hate hierarchies. That's the point. Stalin saw the world through class warfare, but Hitler saw it through a racial/jewish one. The end result is they didn't get along.

And after WW2, it was Communists who funded militias to attack South Africa, Portugal, Israel & Rhodesia. They're just not interested in race.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Communism to me always seems like a scam to me. There is no explanation why a socialist state would transition into full blown communism. It doesn't seem like people with power would just give it all up after ruling the entire world. Also, ethnic conflicts would immediately happen after the decentralization and people would form corporations to take over territories. Having everything one person needs doesn't stop people from taking someone else's stuff. See Black people as a good example of this in action. They have more wealth in consumer goods than poor White people but they still loot and steal during their "riots". I don't know, it just seems like a ruse for one group to take power at the expense of everyone else.

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know they do. I'm saying if they were willing to compromise on that, a lot of their other demands would be met.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But you can say the same thing for corporations. Soon they'll have their own armies. This is one of the reasons why libertarianism is not a solution.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Of course, my argument is that we should give a certain level of breathing room for patriotic nationalists to make political changes on the off chance the people in power are corrupt. I am not sure if this space should exist at all times of the regime. There is a need for a strong centralized state apparatus to reign on corporations and purge the underpinnings of the anti-White ideology from all institutions and forms of influence. It might include surveillance of teachers because you don't want liberal teachers indoctrinating the next generation. While it might seem draconian, extreme measures need to be taken to eradicate the influence of the previous regime if you want the new state to exist in a long term capacity. Once the state is in a secure position, communities can be trusted to fulfill the same role without the state appearing to the same degree in all aspects of social and civic life.