If you were a Billionaire, would you feel guilty about yourself?

submitted by radicalcentristNational Centrism from self.debatealtright

Point of view: You wake up everyday in a Mansion made of gold. You get to own and drive the fanciest cars. You have access to the best medical care that no one else does. Your fortune eclipses even the most upper class workers.

However, every time you leave your house, you pass by the "less fortunate" neighborhoods. Here you see White families living paycheck to paycheck. Some White people are so depressed, they've turned to drugs or even suicide.

After you finish your joyride and shopping at the mall, you return to your mansion surrounded by electric fences. You are clearly aware there are millions of people who look just like you, but are suffering everyday.

Do you continue to look at yourself as a good person, knowing every dollar you make could go towards helping those around you? Or do you prefer to keep adding infinite riches to your stockpile, that is the case with other ultra billionaires like Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk?

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[–]thomastheglassexpert 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

For about 15 years of my life I was fairly major millionaire. I employed more than 75 people and all of construction. Paid massive payroll every Friday whether I had been paid or not. Paid massive taxes. Held hosted parties to my mansion at least 1x per month. Major gigs at my mansion for all holidays. Threw cash at people and told them they could never repay just take it. So "guilty" nope. Not at all. I gave a whole lot more than I received and perhaps that's one reason I am millionaire no more.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you for service. As someone who works closely with the construction industry, I bet you've made a lot of workers happy.

And that's something I would value if I were in the same position.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It depends on the state of your country. If you are using your vast wealth to finance a pro-White movement that overturns the anti-White system and occupation government I think it is better than giving all the money away to the poor. You might have helped thousands of poor people but you didn't stop a system that threatens your entire race by a tyrannical foreign empire. If you are living in the ideal White nation state, I don't think a billionaire should exist.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If you are living in the ideal White nation state, I don't think a billionaire should exist.

Would 1900s America fall under this?

It was still majority White, but it also had the richest man in history (John D Rockefeller, worth $400 Billion today). Or Henry Ford.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Is this with or without the children for adrenochrome and/or other fun activities?
Asking for a friend.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

You can be rich and still have kids. It's not an absolute requirement so I didn't mention it.

My own personal opinion: Having kids can still make you guilty, since these are people born into a spoiled life, whereas the poor people I referenced in the OP started from the bottom.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

it was a joke about the pedophocracy.

[–]Tarrock 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I'd do the same thing every other billionaire is, hire a bunch of people to political astroturf. See how far I could get a monarchist movement.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

There's already a gay billionaire (Peter Thiel) doing this, we don't need two of you!

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Lol!

[–]Jacinda 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Anglin wrote about this in an article about the juxtaposition of extreme poverty and wealth in modern America:

You have to wonder: what good is it to have a $500,000 super-car, if you’re driving it through tent cities? Do these people get off on that?

I have never been rich, so I don’t understand the rich mindset, but when I picture it, I think of it as being like, you’re rich and well dressed, and you’re hanging out with a bunch of other good-looking, well-off people. If being rich is about lording over peasants and drug-addicts living in tents, then it’s a mindset that I simply cannot fathom.

However, this seems to be the new elite mindset: it’s not about being a bit better off than those around you, and living in extravagance while others are maybe a little bit jealous but still doing alright: it seems that it is about flaunting ultra-wealth to a bunch of shuffling, mumbling drug-addicts. [Cont...]

It's an excellent article although he does spoil it by claiming, somewhat disingenuously, that the elite in third world countries are more sympathetic to the plight of the less well off. Something I failed to notice while living in Asia.

Obviously neo-liberal values atomize society, producing wealth extremes even as they erode any bonds that humans might have beyond the money nexus.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You have to wonder: what good is it to have a $500,000 super-car, if you’re driving it through tent cities? Do these people get off on that?

Yup, this is the stuff I was alluding to in the OP. Rich people go for a ride in their expensive new toys, but the scenery around them looks third world.

Imagine if that $500,000 was used to clean up the city and you ride a bike around the neighborhood instead? At least you wouldn't have to worry about being mugged or stabbed when you step outside.

[–]Jacinda 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The video Anglin based his article on is illuminating, illustrating the change in values that has occurred.

Traditionally fairness as extremely important in my society. My parents and previous generations spent a great deal of time and energy working with the community on various social projects; these revolved around the church, and various public benefit schemes. I think to a large extent they saw the town as an extension of themselves. I used to be involved but for a variety of reasons I have pulled back, In part it is a result of social atomization; the 'bowling alone' phenomena that results from forced diversity, in part financial precarity makes me focus on my future. As diversity increasing replaces society altruism also becomes more and more pointless.

I imagine billionaires are an extreme version of this; they compete amongst themselves and the poor are invisible to them. I hope that if I had wealth I would respond differently. I certainly wouldn't spend my money on a ridiculous car.