Collapse of the Catholic church in Poland: Only 9% of young Poles view the church positively

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[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

If -- and it's a big if -- the Church does decline in terms of influence in Poland as Karlin rightly points out Poland will begin to look more and more like many Western European nations.

Still amazed that some anti-Christian WN's haven't actually accepted the fact that all our probelms have increased and been massively excacerbated by the decline of Christian religiosity in the West. (Protestants add complication to that assertion but largely it's still true.)

I guess when Poland in 20 years if Christianity does decline -- who knows if the poll is actually representative of actual attitudes -- and Poland becomes just another neo-liberal, polyglot shit hole complete with trans rights and mandatory CRT training just like Karlin guesses people like you will still be blaming Christianty itself for the degeneracy. Also the fact that all of the problems we decry occur with far more frequency in countries that are less Christian will never convince its detractors that maybe we're dealing with a deeper problem than 'Cucktianity' and maybe the second you remove the Christian faith you replace it with something far more destructive, nasty and Semitic.

Actually screw that we'll all just suddenly become....... Apollonians or some other ill defined dog shit and live out a happy White Nationalist future. Winning.

[–]NeoRail 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

European history did not begin with Christianity. It is true that as the Christian faith has declined, so has the West, but it's far more debateable if this decline was the product of the decline of Christianity or the decline of religiosity more generally. Additionally, it is worth asking why this decline occurred at all. Personally, I believe that there was nothing the Church could have done to prevent this decline, chiefly because the problem was rooted in its doctrines. Up until recently, the clergy played their part well, but Christian doctrine itself is simply too poorly suited to Europeans in order to rein in certain parts of the population.

I don't think there is any benefit to attacking Christianity, but at the same time there's also nothing to expect from it. If any Christians take a stand for the Right today, it will be in spite of their Christian faith, not because of it.

[–]Oingo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Undoubtedly, Christianity was the shared moral values needed to dominate and defend from other cultures at that time.
That being said, for whatever reason, Christianity has stopped being necessary for average person. To a certain degree, shared morality comes from books and tv shows, knowledge comes from our understanding of science.
I don't know enough to determine whether this is good or bad, but I can say that at its current state, Christianity doesn't seem to be the thing that will save white people and strengthen our ethnic identity.
It seems to me that all a return to Christianity would do is revive a highly religious, multi-ethnic society much like the ones we see in the middle east.