The Way Forward: A New Christianity, Partition, and a General Operational Plan - Occidental Observer

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

He needs a replacement though, and paganism isn't the answer- I understand a desire for more aggressive dogmas like is seen with Islam but they live on borrowed time and Islam is largely fueled by impoverished sexless radicals that are perpetually ready for war since they come from broken societies. In my personal opinion, I've always felt as though Stoicism is the answer as its four pillars of virtue (prudence, justice, fortitude, and temperance) is largely what Christianity ripped off and watered down to be more universal according to Greek observers. Stoicism also allows for deism and nurtures the belief in true "good" and "evil" so it isn't too wishy washy either.

Just a thought. Moving forward is a complicated question and faith in philosophy has failed before in the French Revolution so I'm not necessarily dying on that hill.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I think neo-platonism might give a good answer. Its believe in the one cosmic mind, from his emanations, all of reality come to form and Gods and Goddesses and lesser spiritual beings also come to existence. Its something that does not contradict evolution or brings equality and other egalitarian luggage. I think there are schools of thought that believed that not all humans even had souls.

We need to reenchant the world with magic, make it mysterious and beautiful again. Christianity, Judaism and Islam, all stem from the rotten mind of the Jew. Its a very materialistic and totalitarian view of the world that naturally breeds intolerance, fanaticism and suicide cults. It doesn't see nature as sacred and mystical.

We need to combine neoplatonism with some form of nature worship and eugenic, darwinist beliefs. Its the only thing that can truly oppose liberal technocracy. The Abrahamic religions have already been defeated by the almighty dollar. They cannot provide an answer to the questions of our time.

What we need, is Freedom under God

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Hard agree on neo-platonism which frankly should be everyone's default. It's all but proven and was followed by virtually all of the smartest physicists and mathematicians of the modern era.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Would love to see some scientific proofs if you have the links

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Unfortunately they are difficult to abridge and they don't follow formulaic diagrams. I'll attempt a rough explanation.

Like with Stoicism, neo-platonism is a lot of what Christianity ripped off as well- the first verse of the book of John isn't actually, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." as this is a bad translation. The actual word for "word" was Logos- one of Plato's forms. According to Plato this form was a realm of pure logic/reason that transcended our rules and it's easy to see how this became associated with the mystical.

However, many Mathematicians started to associate "logos" with mathematics itself. Newton and his contemporaries thought it was a "language of God" but they made a direct comparison between the two instead of "Logos"'s more esoteric definition. Here's the problem- along comes Einstein's best friend at Princeton, Kurt Godel. Godel publishes one of the most troubling proofs in the history of science that everyone to this day is trying to reconcile with and it's called Incompleteness Theorem. These are what is worth studying if you have the time and energy- in essence they say that Math is a self referential system and cannot be trusted. The implication of math itself being an emergent property of something deeper and more real is affirming of deeper reality since math largely works for our purposes and seems to make very accurate predictions about many things.

However Math itself has other cracks too and cannot predict everything. The advent of quantum theory proved that true random is a real thing in the physical universe and you cannot brute force an answer out of true random. Further complicating this picture of reality are various experiments demonstrate physical laws being "saved" by a degree of mathematical fatalism. An example of this being the Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser which preserves itself by literally doing retrocausality (sending information "back in time"). Things like this are arguments for what physicists call "elegance" where bizarre synchronicity and "glitches in the matrix" align. Elegance itself is difficult to wrap one's head around- you also see this in Euler's Identity which has all constituents of math contained in one equation; truly difficult to understand as there is no reason that should exist.

All of these things lend credence to a mystical deeper logos that manifests itself to us with things like math. The contradictions of logic and causality pointed out by Godel, Russel, Hilbert and others is the reason that most mathematicians are not formalists- but true platonists.

TLDR: It's universally accepted that our current architecture for science is severely limited and cannot be a complete picture of reality. That doesn't imply there is a god, but it almost guarantees that we're missing something.