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[–]LtGreenCo 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

Women may be weaker and generally less threatening than men but that doesn't mean they can't be abusive. They just abuse differently; they use different tactics.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Frankly having met people of both sexes who've been abused I think the main issue is that they have a fucked up idea of what love looks like then they find an abusive person who fits that.

A guy can walk away from a weak violent woman any time but he often thinks "she only hits me because she loves me so much it upsets her". That's not logical, it comes from somewhere. When a guy has crazy ideas like that set in his head any emotional idiot can manipulate him with no tactics just tantrums.

That's enough to get me merced in feminist circles.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

So it’s his own fault?

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, you have to take responsibility for your own life. No one is coming to save you. How do you like them apples?

[–]ClassroomPast6178 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

As long as you apply that principle equally.

I think the modern taboo about questioning why “victims” haven’t helped themselves and labelling it “victim-blaming” has actually been bad as it has prevented discussions as to how people can take steps to protect themselves.

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I see a common thing with the me too movement isn't that women got abused or raped but that they had sex with a man in power who promised them certain things and then he doesn't follow thru. That's how it was with weinstein, a bunch of consensual sex that women later regretted and they say he had a power imbalance which is true but they could have just not had sex with him and then not gotten any acting jobs. And some did but got blacklisted.

[–]SMCAB 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Having been "abused" by a BPD for a long time, yes it was my fault.

I perceived love incorrectly, I replaced respect with pussy. And I'm a brick shithouse who does everything a man is supposed to do in an adult relationship. It was never physical, just all the standard devaluing, push/pull, lovebombing and the like.

It was my fault, I allowed it, she was just her normal disordered self.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No it was her fault.

The only cure for BPD is behaving better. They aren't insane, they can control themselves when they need to.

But you have a responsibility to protect yourself and mix with decent people who deserve your time. That's not the same as being responsible for everything that happens to you.

[–]SMCAB 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean really, it was my fault. While I didn't know every little thing about BPD when I met her, I took every red flag and threw them in the garbage, knowing and telling myself I wasn't going to disorder anymore. So in that context, I could have ran anytime, and did a few times, and always went back in the end.

That doesn't discount what you are saying, and I agree, and believe me I still place blame.

[–]slavdude0 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

My dude. This is a post written by an ovarit using cunt. Who's also a furry weirdo with "kinks".

[–]QueenBread[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

First, I'm not an ovarit user. They banned me long time ago for "defending men and being a handmaiden". Second, being a furry art fan and having creativity in bed is not at all a bad thing, unless you're a sad, repressed puritan who's terrified of sex (which you are). Third, I still feel sorry for you, my poor dude.

[–]slavdude0 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

"Art". Pffftt... Hahaha. You sound like a troon pick me faggot.

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

[–]slavdude0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You're stroking your cock to Disney cartoons?

[–]Titanic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, she's probably a bestialist. Always rude and obnoxious.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Nasty case in the UK that opened a lot of people’s eyes.

He said on one occasion she told him her mother had received a message to say his grandfather had died. "Half-way through me crying she said 'Do you want to go downstairs and talk to my Mum about this?' So you think, it is real," Mr Skeel said. But after watching him sob for two hours Worth then revealed the death had not happened before berating him for caring about his family. On another occasion he woke up after Worth had beaten him on the head with a beer bottle before chasing him and hitting him on the hands and face with a hammer.

[–]cephyrious 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Whoa, that's pretty wild. What a witch!

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Notice they were living with her family when it was happening. These people don't just spring out of nowhere.

[–]QueenBread[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I agree with this. Women can be emotionally abusive - mostly because they couldn't be physically abusive even if they wanted to. This is why violence from crazy women usually harms children: crazy and violent women can be shut down by even a mediocre man.

However, the asshole in this post was talking about how his scary big girlfriend was physically assaulting him. And that's the kind of disgusting bullshit that makes me pissed: when women are biologically facing the fear of physical assault from men on a regular basis, and some omega males appropriate their struggle to be the center of attention, it makes me angry.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Women do physically abuse men. In the case ClassroomPast6178 posted she was actually stabbing him and he was letting her do it.

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

"He was letting her do it" being the keyword here.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh yes, but it was still physical abuse. She likely chose him as a partner because she knew he had strong feelings against hitting women.

[–]LtGreenCo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

For every wife-beating man out there, there are just as many if not more men who were raised to never lay an aggressive hand on a woman. When you have that repeatedly ingrained into your psyche growing up then it becomes almost instinctual. Many men can personally attest to this myself included.

So, "letting her do it" in this case may mean in his mind, restraining her with force just wasn't an option. He could maybe call the cops but that's a risky move in itself since cops almost always take the side of the woman in domestic calls.

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

......You're speaking about men being taught not to hit women as if it were a bad thing. Jesus.

[–]LtGreenCo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Not in the slightest. I think it's a good thing. WTF is wrong with you? You have some issues I think if that was your interpretation.

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Then I am sorry. So many weirdos here that I got used to assume the worst.

[–]LtGreenCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Appreciate the apology. But yeah not only do I think it's a good thing but I think it's absolutely necessary to raise men this way. However, we do see situations where this rule is abused and taken full advantage of by women, so it's not like there isn't a downside. So I think we also need to teach men that when a woman proves to be an immediate threat to the safety of herself or those around her, it may be necessary to apply effective but reasonable force.

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I can agree with that.

[–]yam0048 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So what the fuck is a man who can't be physically overpowered by a woman supposed to do if she starts stabbing him? Just... be magically immune to being stabbed because he could overpower her if he wanted to but he isn't allowed to so much as raise a hand against her? What the fuck are you fucking talking about?

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Why stop at knives? How about guns? Let's solve domestic violence by having everyone open carry while in the house. Dang, you're an idiot. Too bad I'm not talking about assault. I'm talking about domestic abuse. You know, the kind where if the woman says anything, the man overpowers her to teach her a lesson.

[–]BluuDegenerate 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

OK we get it, you hate men. Fuck off with this shit.

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Men are always stronger than women therefore they can't be physically intimidated by their female partner = hating men.

[–]BluuDegenerate 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You seriously believe that every single man is stronger than 100% of women? You're either dishonest or a moron.

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's a lot like saying a chicken always loses to a fox. Nah, it's not true, because if the fox is blind, old and diseased, and the chicken is big and strong, the chicken once in a while can ward off the fox. Therefore, chickens and foxes are equally dangerous, and chickens shouldn't fear foxes. Therefore, we don't need fences to separate foxes from chickens. Let foxes inside a chicken's den.

[–]BluuDegenerate 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I still can't decide if it's dishonest or moronic, but it's plenty entertaining watching you read words that aren't there and draw absurd conclusions that nobody is saying, instead of just looking at the situation through a reasonable lens and going "yeah okay it's possible for a woman to be the abuser"

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's also possible for a chicken to win a fight versus a fox. The real issue here is WHY it's so important for you to focus on that event and to have people say that a fox can lose to a chicken, while most normal people don't even think about that possibility and are concerned about protecting chickens from foxes.

[–]wylanderuk 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

You really are a cunt...

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

Yeah, I'm sorry, you're right: women can totally overpower men. Because women are biologically nearly as strong. In fact, this is why 95% of domestic violence cases are caused by women. And this is why men are told not to walk alone at night and avoid shady men that approach them. So many transmen now are taking advantage of this to access men's private spaces, scaring them in bathrooms and changing rooms.

[–]wylanderuk 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

As you have been told a few times before most DV is both partners abusing each other and when its one partner its 70% women doing it.

Here is radical idea you moronic cunt, DV is bad no no matter who does it.

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

If your idea of "abuse" is yelling and hurting your feeeeelings, I can accept it could be women doing it the most. Too bad actual abuse is breaking bones, beatingup, leaving physical and psychological damages. Something women don't do. First because they aren't that violent. Second because the man they would try to abuse can shut them down in a minute when he decides to react.

But I don't have to explain what any sane human being knows.

[–]wylanderuk 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

First because they aren't that violent. Second because the man they would try to abuse can shut them down in a minute when he decides to react.

And probably just like you if she gets shut down physically he gets fucking arrested, even if its just a restraint or pushing past her.

Some women take advantage of men generally being taught not to hit women to do things that would get a mans arse kicked if he did it to another man which includes hitting men while holding "no real man would hit back". Well fuck that noise, you start shit there is going to be shit.

Frankly I think you are probably a violent wee shite and would not recognise sanity if it walked up and kicked you in the twat.

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Frankly I think you are probably a violent wee shite

Yeah, totally. I'm so menacing I start shit all the time. And then men cower in fear, as I beat them over their heads again and again, and they cry knowing if they stop me the cops will arrest them.

Ain't you a lil' moron.

[–]wylanderuk 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Naw you strike me as more of yappy little dog type of person. More likely if you ever get a partner to be the type that would throw hot water over someone who is sleeping.

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

What if I'm a yappy little dog? You just said that poor, poor men can only take a woman's abuse, so it doesn't matter how dangerous I am, right? The alternate reality you live in must be interesting.

[–]wylanderuk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Those yappy little fuckers are more likely to attack you in my experience, but I have no sympathy for a chick that attacks a man and gets hit back.

"but a man is stronger and can really hurt her!!!!" is most likely to be your reply, but frankly zero fucks given zero...You don't want no shit?, don't start no shit.

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

The response should be equal to the threat level, you psycho.

[–]BluuDegenerate 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

"Men are stronger on average, therefore no man has ever suffered abuse from his gf" God your arguments are as retarded as the content we make fun of here

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Remove the "on average" part. The most trained female athletes in the world lose badly to a random teenage boys sport team. You can fuck off with the gaslighting.

[–]BluuDegenerate 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Okay, now read carefully the example you just gave. You're comparing athletes vs athletes, because yes even teen sports teams are at least climbing the ladder when it comes to fitness. Now how about a female weightlifter to an out of shape, unfit guy. You seriously think the guy still has an advantage in lifting?

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Your grasping at straws is hilarious. "Yes, women are inherently much physically weaker than men, but, b-but....... if a woman trains really really really hard to advanced competitive level, then probably she can be stronger than a man who never did any physical exercise ever!! Therefore women aren't weak!! Gotcha!"

Oh, boy.

[–]BluuDegenerate 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You just conceded your argument.

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Ah yes, an award-winning female bodybuilder can easily take down a slob incel who never lifted a weight ever. That means violence against women is solved!! Why did nobody think about this!

You're disgusting, because your comments reveal more and more that you're a wannabe predator. Who's probably too much of a pussy to try sexual assault, but absolutely thinks about it often. Isn't it? Am I correct?

[–]BluuDegenerate 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Holy shit what an insane leap of logic, lmfao

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Call it leap of logic, but ask any woman what they think about a man who really really really insists on downplaying the obvious biological differences between men and women.

[–]clownworlddropout 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Are you kidding me? Women can be vicious.

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah, they can totally overpower men. Because women are biologically nearly as strong. In fact, this is why 95% of domestic violence cases are caused by women. And this is why men are told not to walk alone at night and avoid shady women that approach them. So many transmen now are taking advantage of this to access men's private spaces, scaring them in bathrooms and changing rooms.

[–]clownworlddropout 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

What the hell is this drivel meant to accomplish? You think men being stronger and male sexual predators existing means all women are saints? That they can't be abusive? That a man that's abused by a woman must be a "soy boy"? You're nuts.

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The drivel is that fuckers who appropriate the female-only experience of terrifying abusive partners can fuck off.

[–]clownworlddropout 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Women don't own abuse ffs, get a grip

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well, I wish you were right, too bad crime stats worldwide speak differently. I sure wish you were right, believe me.

[–]clownworlddropout 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're being willfully ignorant to the criticism you're receiving. Women suffer more abuse but they don't own abuse, it's not a story only they can tell. Women can abuse men as well, and a man that suffers abuse at the hand of a woman shouldn't be silenced or belittled. Nobody's trying to steal anyone's thunder here.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've seen tons of examples in person where the woman is the violent person and the man just takes it for years. Then the one time the man hits back, the police get involved and the guy spends the night in jail. Some women have this idiotic assumption that they are just as strong as their man then when he finally hits back they are like oops.

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Buy a body cam and turn it on so the cops will have evidence you defended yourself when she attacked you. All this new technology and you soy boys are that fucking stupid?

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

But why would he need a body cam? He's a man. He can punch her in the face and stop her "assault" if he wanted to. Unless her fiancée is a professional award-winning bodybuilder and he has a bone or muscular condition.

[–]IkeConn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Cops usually believe the girl and he would go to jail.

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Of course they would believe the girl. If a fucking grown ass man goes to the cop whining that his mean violent gf is beating him up, only an insane cop would believe the man. Do you understand all he needs is one punch to knock the "aggressive, violent" woman out? This shit's so tiring. if you think his gf is a danger to him, then you also believe transwomen should access women's sports because there is no physical difference between biological men and women. Fuckin' testosterone-lacking soyboys with noodle arms, desperately wishing they were as weak as women.....

[–]alladd 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

You have issues with men. Maybe consider therapy.

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

You clowns need to get your shit together, because the other side of the fence claims I have issues with women. If you're not radicalized, you're always the enemy, isn't it? Not that you'd understand, idiot.

[–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Maybe you're a misanthrope and you hate everyone. But probably no one more than yourself.

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Nice try, but I happen to love myself. Do you....?

[–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I find that hard to believe based on how you write. But let's hope I'm wrong!

[–]QueenBread[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Of course you'd find it hard to believe.... I'm like a mirror, I tend to act with others the way they deserve. Perhaps in your case I can only treat you like the idiot you are?

[–]wylanderuk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes you show your narcissism in pretty much every post...

[–]IkeConn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Go ahead. Hit her. And go to jail. I have a dash cam. Never trust the other person. Never.