The same people who say we need to "stop with the anti-semitism" are the same ones who will support anti-White rhetoric as free speech

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[–]Extract 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Actual reasons they choose antisemitism, over other made-up problems (such as "bigotry" or "homophobia"):

  1. It's a legit concern for most users here - a good contern-troll needs to offer at least a somewhat real problem, even when jumping to an intentionally bad solution.

  2. It's a division point between most moderate-right/center and some far-right groups, and as such, the propaganda paddlers are hoping to farther divide their opposition.

People like you need to understand that you aren't in war against DA JUICE, but are actually under assault by expert propaganda companies who know their audience to a T.

[–]Bitchcraft 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

People like you need to understand that you aren't in war against DA JUICE, but are actually under assault by expert propaganda companies

So much of the extremely off-topic, blatant, low effort anti-semitic comments (on the internet in general, not just here) feel like a false flag to frame communities as alt-right. That's why it tends to spill into everything, the "collateral damage" was actually the intended target.

[–]Extract 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That's because they are - actual far-right loonies supporting it is what makes this the (currently) most effective type of false flagging at the moment.
You just need a few dedicated accounts paddling this crap to either side (antisemitism vs SJW rethoric), and if it's allowed to stay and fester, the forum quickly loses legitimacy in the eyes of most users (see Voat).
This is probably the biggest strength of specific-interest forums like TheDonald.win - if you don't claim to be a free-speech forum, you can target those divisive shills at their roots.
On the other hand, actual free-speech forums rely on the users to constantly keep watch for those shills, which is much harder.

[–]copenseethe 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That theory makes a lot of sense. This could be an assault on this forum by shills that work for the rapidly dyeing reddit.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No it almost definitely is an attack. The odds of the more extreme elements (and their upvotes) being organic are extremely slim. And I say this as the site admin who has been carefully watching this for almost 3 years now

[–]takeyourjoyjohn 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow well said. I am ashamed to say that seeing some of the hateful stuff was making me lose faith in saidit as well. But what you're saying is making sense.

It's helping me, instead, to look into these posts that originally made me anxious and shy away as an opportunity to gain insight and understanding. I'm learning that you can really learn alot when you read from the radicals and the rationals. The tricky part is staying grounded because, honestly, no one is immune to manipulation.

[–]Rationalmind 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Interesting point on the false flag thing. I noticed the handful of accounts that are antisemities, all comment around the same time. I think your theory is credible. Do you think it’s to drive reasonable people back to mainstream platforms?

[–]takeyourjoyjohn 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is what I'm thinking. I was this close .. To actually leaving this site. Probably what they (?) wanted.

[–]Chipit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Please stay. We need more normal people to balance out the others.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Probably what they (?) wanted.

Yes there seems to be a deliberate agenda to provoke from elsewhere recently. Just hide posts you don't want to see and mute or block users you don't want to hear from

[–]Lahontan 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Maybe it's one person or a small group that are shedding light on the topic. I've been wallowing in the shallow depths of the internet (ie hanging out on Reddit) for a long time, and I've never heard some of the details on zionism, etc that I'm picking up here on Saidit. Not that I'm convinced, but it's filling in gaps in the topic.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Israel was responsible for 9/11. That is the biggest red pill I ever swallowed. The evidence is overwhelming when you look at it with an open mind, it changed my perception of everything

[–]Bitchcraft 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Or maybe the antisemites are astroturfing. No way to tell.

[–]Anatolia 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I noticed the handful of accounts that are antisemities, all comment around the same time.

lol this is twitter investigator logic. they literally would take twitter accounts and say commenting at like 3am meant you were russian LOL. (not just an american that woke up in the middle of the night)

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes you understand how this works. They post garbage that is technically not against site rules, and then use multiple accounts to upvote it and comment on it, to normalize it on the site. They then make posts that characterize the entire website "Saidit hates jews!" or "Why are there so many anti-semetic posts here?" (even though it's like 3% of the posts at most). And then people buy the bait and start thinking "that's how saidit is".

It's all a campaign to defame saidit and portray us as evil, by whatever means necessary. And they know if they don't break site rules they can kind of keep fudging it like this, pushing it farther and farther.

[–]Markimus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

People like you need to understand that you aren't in war against DA JUICE, but are actually under assault by expert propaganda companies who know their audience to a T.

Name these companies, who are they?

[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There are no companies, none of it makes any sense, people are just scared of jews. One of the posters whose thread got upvotes is saying "I'm not a company or astro anything" , it don't matter, people are scared. The owner is playing 5D chess, cos he has to, the shitstorm is in his name...

Btw, unban me from AltrightUk, would you...We were just having a faggit locker room banter, doesn't warrant a life time ban?!

[–]Markimus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not a mod of whatever that is lol

[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

s/altunitedkingdom, my bad. I just know I got a notification some time ago. What a bunch of faggots lol. J/k probably a group of very fine gentlemen and scholars.