The same people who say we need to "stop with the anti-semitism" are the same ones who will support anti-White rhetoric as free speech

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[–]Extract 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That's because they are - actual far-right loonies supporting it is what makes this the (currently) most effective type of false flagging at the moment.
You just need a few dedicated accounts paddling this crap to either side (antisemitism vs SJW rethoric), and if it's allowed to stay and fester, the forum quickly loses legitimacy in the eyes of most users (see Voat).
This is probably the biggest strength of specific-interest forums like TheDonald.win - if you don't claim to be a free-speech forum, you can target those divisive shills at their roots.
On the other hand, actual free-speech forums rely on the users to constantly keep watch for those shills, which is much harder.

[–]copenseethe 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That theory makes a lot of sense. This could be an assault on this forum by shills that work for the rapidly dyeing reddit.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No it almost definitely is an attack. The odds of the more extreme elements (and their upvotes) being organic are extremely slim. And I say this as the site admin who has been carefully watching this for almost 3 years now

[–]takeyourjoyjohn 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow well said. I am ashamed to say that seeing some of the hateful stuff was making me lose faith in saidit as well. But what you're saying is making sense.

It's helping me, instead, to look into these posts that originally made me anxious and shy away as an opportunity to gain insight and understanding. I'm learning that you can really learn alot when you read from the radicals and the rationals. The tricky part is staying grounded because, honestly, no one is immune to manipulation.