Women's IssuesFour women in speedrunning

submitted by justagaydude123 from self.LGBDropTheT

speedrun.com, the premiere place to host leaderboards in the hobby, is under new administration. They implemented a "pronoun" feature which is pretty much expected (begrudgingly) nowadays, but one thing these guys have been doing is featured articles on the side of the site. Last week, they were promoting black speedrunners - cool! This week, they ran an article on "Four women in Speedrunning". Awesome - this is a super male-dominated hobby so I can't wait to check out these four female speedrunners and show some support!

Hmm

The first is named "t0uchan", and they give a link to their Twitch channel which itself hosts links to their social media.

"t0uchan"

Well, I fully expected a trans woman in this list. I suppose they knocked it out on the first one so no one would complain. Who else is here? Surely, no more men on this list celebrating women, right? Let's check out our second True and Honest Woman, amethyst_rocks

So far, 50% of the women in this article about women are men. So surely #3 will actually be a woman, right?

#3 is Lizstar, who was the person in the picture accompanying the news article.

Surely, SURELY that's it, right? 3/4 women on this list are men, so the last one should be a fucking woman. Don't tell me they couldn't find one fucking woman in this community. Let's check out "ShesChardcore"

But you're kidding me. You run an article intending to highlight women in this heavily male-dominated hobby, and you don't feature a single fucking woman. Who wrote this article?

Yup.

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[–][deleted] 41 insightful - 6 fun41 insightful - 5 fun42 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

Women tend not to get into competitive gaming because of the huge amount of harassment they get from men. So when a woman actually gets to the top it's really impressive because of all the shit she had to fight through to do it.

These men didn't have to fight through anything.

[–]antares 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I strongly disagree. You can link thousands of articles that broadly state women get harassed in gaming. It will never override my personal experience within competitive video gaming. That and game journalism had credibility issues (conflict of interest, collusion, sensationalism) for over a decade, if not decades.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 25 insightful - 5 fun25 insightful - 4 fun26 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Gross.

[–]milknciggiesLGBToxic 20 insightful - 7 fun20 insightful - 6 fun21 insightful - 7 fun -  (7 children)

Flashback to Remilia, the first female league pro player

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

And then even worse happened - one CiS team went bankrupt and had no money to hire players, but were obligated to play by contract, so they hired some low quality female streamers, plus accountant of that team played there, so they had very low quality female players there, and went into championship, and never won a game, most games they were trolled - boys were not just winning against them, but mocking them. That even more showed bad role models for girls who would maybe wanted to play - they saw that they will be mocked and that girls play bad. I was so angry.

[–]milknciggiesLGBToxic 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I didn't know that. That sucks. The league community in general is so toxic tho.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It even was in news:

https://esports-news.co.uk/2019/02/17/vaevictis-esports-all-female-team/

Boys/men just were mocking them on respawn, not ending game. And it was in the very first game of girls/women. I bet it was very hard hit to morale. In general they stopped even trying to win in next few games. Not like they had any chance - they were gold-platinum rankings/elo, playing against diamond and challenger (and it is not like there no challenger girls/women to take - I was in challenger at one point, team leads just had no money and took any teen girl/woman they were able to take, including just friends. So it was just "we need to do contract somehow, but lets make public appearance" and instead they made women look really bad in this game.

[–]milknciggiesLGBToxic 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's awful... I just remember the whole Team Siren thing years ago. I don't know what the fuck was that about but it made me cringe and sad at the same time. I wonder if it was a similar situation.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

When I read descriptions like this I find it very confusing in that it implies that it's being done because they are women. This fountain camping happens in most blowout games ... Like 99%. Them being women is irrelevant in that situation. Watch LCS they do it to each other.

I personally have won a ranked game because the other team tried to fountain camp us as they won but we wiped them and ran up mid and killed their nexus.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

At first they banned only 5 supports, even ones that are not in meta and which women team never played before, and then in the end of game they killed them, then waited until they respawn, killed again, waited until respawn and killed again - instead of finishing the game. In Turkey (or was it Brazil?) one team was disqualified for similar disrespect shown few times, in CiS it happened only one time, so teams only got a warning.

Don't know how it is on the West, but here it is always assumed that women can only play support and that we should play only supports. Even in one team I once participated, they put me on a support role, which was annoying - I took challenger on midlane twice and master on marksman, while their midlaner was low diamond. We would have much more chances if I was midlaner and that guy on a support, but nah - women can only play supports.

LCS

Killing on spawn before finishing the game is happening pretty rare in LCS, it is more often happening in LEC, mostly by G2, and even more often in LCK, mostly by teams who have KD/A players or to ruin KD/A for such teams.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Trans. Died in sleep at 24. Speculation of cause not allowed on Reddit. Hmm...

[–]boypower 16 insightful - 5 fun16 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Might as well recommend a few actual women who speedrun

Korv does speedruns of Megaman 1 and 2 https://www.twitch.tv/korv

Soph does Final Fantasy 8, 10, Dino Crisis 2, Serious Sam 2 and some Resident Evil by the looks of it https://www.twitch.tv/soph

Highly recommend both of them!

[–]TurtleFuzz 13 insightful - 6 fun13 insightful - 5 fun14 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

All of those pictures gave me the willies. Goddamn they are so creepy.

[–]AugustiJade 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Especially that last one. I used to be quite into the punk scene myself when I was younger, but this goth dude just looks like a creeper

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I had such issue in gaming, it was so hard to find any other women gaming. And ones who were starting - were discouraged to play good, and there were no good role models too, so many who could be strong competitors - just never even tried.

[–]JoeyJoeJoe 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is games industry all over. They love to talk up how "diverse" they are. Mental illness is paraded as a badge of honour. They love to talk about "marginalised genders" and how well represented they are. No appreciation of irony though when you notice that the "45% marginalised gender representation" actually means men in dresses and girls who hate their boobs. Actual women are such an embarrassingly small percentage of the industry- no wonder they're happy to fill that quota with alphabet people.

[–]censorshipment 9 insightful - 8 fun9 insightful - 7 fun10 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

Women gotta start talking shit to men. I once heard a woman, during a PUBG Mobile match, on voice chat mocking an Indian dude... he got so pissed that he left ("rage quit"). Female gamers need to be vicious competitors. Psychological warfare is so important.

[–]Ninaran 10 insightful - 6 fun10 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Not surprised, I blame GDQ. Just remember this infamous picture.

[–]censorshipment 8 insightful - 8 fun8 insightful - 7 fun9 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

My stomach feels so queasy. Even if they identified as men, I'd still feel sick. They gave me the creeps.