The rapiness never ends: "...try to have a conversation, consider what it is about those genitals that you don’t like, ask how that person likes their genitals played with ..."

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[–]SerpensInferna 33 insightful - 1 fun33 insightful - 0 fun34 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The abomination of neo-vaginas make me puke. I tried it once when I was young and retarded (come at me anti-ableists), it was a horror show and I wish I could go back in time and veer myself off that path.

Since I know we are being watched by the obsessive freaks of r/AHS, if this will help even one of you, Do not go through with the surgery. It will not alleviate your dysphoria and it is a labyrinthine nightmare of long-term medical issues. If you think it is anywhere near a vagina, let a seasoned lesbian assure you it is not. It is nothing, absolutely nothing, like a vagina.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 31 insightful - 3 fun31 insightful - 2 fun32 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

“There are features that you may not find attractive, and a trans person may have those features,” Hamil explains. “But this is different than saying you do not find transgender people attractive. We have to remember that all transgender people, like all cisgender people, are different.”

You know what features I don't find attractive? Vaginas and phalloplasties made from arm skin.

“If you’re genuinely not interested in a certain set of binary genitalia, that’s okay; you shouldn’t have sex with someone that you don’t want to,” Hamil assures. “But if you’re really into someone, are genitals going to be a dealbreaker for you? Or will you try to have a conversation, consider what it is about those genitals that you don’t like, ask how that person likes their genitals played with (if at all), and then see where you stand?”

This person has never had sex.

[–]censorshipment 27 insightful - 8 fun27 insightful - 7 fun28 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

😹 after years of being shamed for being a goldstar lesbian, I've developed a sense of pride for having sexual prejudices/preferences... so calling me transphobic is like hitting me with a feather: I don't feel anything.

I'm not going to treat a trans person delicately. If you're too fragile to hear "I don't like your body", why are you even trying to date? If I were insecure, I'd stay out of dating pools.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Same.

[–]Lessom 22 insightful - 4 fun22 insightful - 3 fun23 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

The argument all trans people are different so you can’t say you wouldn’t date one is stupid. All trans people have qualities I don’t like in a partner.

All trans males are not females so I’m automatically not attracted to their bodies. No surgery or surgeon will help them replicate the female body/traits. All trans females are self hating females so I’m not interested in that either. A woman rejecting her womanhood and pretending to be a man would be an instant turnoff.

Therefore I can say with certainty I’m not interested in all trans people, never have and never will.

[–][deleted] 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't find men attractive and it's not because they use the word man to describe themselves, it's because of their male bodies. A man could meet basically everything I look for in a partner, but I'd still be unable to have any romantic or sexual interest in him. That's just how sexuality works.

Why is this suddenly a mystery to these people? Nearly every multi-cellular animal on the fucking planet works this way, but somehow they think humans are different.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why is this suddenly a mystery to these people?

"No" is not a concept understood accepted by narcissists.

[–]JulienMayfair 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

OK, far beyond genitals, what if you simply don't want to deal with all the stuff that we KNOW goes along with being trans? Consider the much greater likelihood of other serious mental health issues, the physical health issues that result from long-term cross-sex hormones and surgeries, the walking on eggshells so you don't do something to "trigger" their insecurities, their hyper-vigilance in terms of how they think they are perceived, etc...

Why invite all that into your life? I'd rather be single.

What these people will never admit is that it's the total picture.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What these people will never admit is that it's the total picture.

One more time for emphasis.

[–]pancakewaffleSip the nuance 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

sometimes our greatest lessons come from unlearning belief systems that are in a state of constant evolution

Funny, considering the belief systems they use to argue their points evolves at such a rapid rate that not even their own community can abide by them. There are no lessons to learn when you abandon responsibility. All in the name of essentially forcing LGB and straight people into being okay with accepting a trans person as a sexual partner.

[–]davids877Straight Male Man 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In other news, sexuality is still not a preference.

[–]chandra 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

When trans activists make the argument that we can't rule out all trans people because there's nothing they all have in common, that's the point where there's no point continuing the conversation, because it's such obvious bullshit that there's no way they're arguing in good faith. No trans man has a real penis. No trans woman has a real vagina. Yes we can tell the difference (well, I can't speak for vaginas, but I know a real penis when I meet one), and yes it matters. But obviously most trans people aren't going to admit 'yes, there's a tangible, meaningful difference that makes it completely reasonable not to date us even after we've spent tens of thousands of dollars irreversibly altering our bodies.'

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

because there's nothing they all have in common

Of course, there IS something they all have in common when a trans person says they won't date another trans person.

[–]chandra 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

To be fair, I haven't actually seen many trans people say they wouldn't date other trans people. Only one that comes to mind is Blaire White, who is completely fine with other people ruling out trans people anyway, no 'legitimate' reason required.

Not doubting that there might be such people, but I'm not gonna rail against trans people I'm not even 100% sure exist.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, they definitely do. I haven't been keeping a list of examples but there seem to be quite a few who will not at all consider dating other trans people. They're definitely not a myth. Someone with time and handy archives or links is welcome to add them.

[–]szalinskikidproblematic androphile 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Supersexuality isn't even trans excluding. It just doesn't take gender identity into account and solely focuses on sex (... you know, like how sexuality used to work pre 2015). Trans people have a sex. (Super)straight men and (super)lesbians can still potentially be attracted to "Elliot" Page for example. In theory. Of course surgically altering or obscuring your sex characteristics will automatically exclude you from many people's dating pool, that shouldn't be surprising. Nor is it transphobic. I'm not into botox faces, so why should I be into any other form of "beauty" op? And that's just one of many potentially unattractive aspects that come with being trans.

It's not the "trans" status that people reject. It's appearance, behavior, the believe system, mental and medical problems etc that automatically come with transgenderism in one form or another.

If anything, trans people are "superphobic" because they exclude people on principle who are attracted to them because of their sex and not gender. They call those genuine and available dating options "chasers" and "fetishists" and accuse them of being "invalidating". Supersexuality doesn't exclude them, it just means the "WRONG" people are into them. Just let that sink in.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not the "trans" status that people reject. It's appearance, behavior, the believe system, mental and medical problems etc that automatically come with transgenderism in one form or another.

Repeating for emphasis, for our lurkers.

[–]SapphicFox 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Transgenderism is the trait I do not find attractive, even if they pass and I initially found them physically attractive the reveal that they are trans is a dealbreaker for me. I do not want to take on that baggage in a personal/ romantic relationship.

Also about the author of the article: "Bobby Box is a journalist and certified sex educator whose work has been published in NewNowNext, Billboard, Elle, Daily Beast, Them., The Advocate and many others. He is Playboy's resident male sex writer and is Grindr's sex columnist."

The term 'journalist' is really watered down these days.

[–]JulienMayfair 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I do not want to take on that baggage in a personal/ romantic relationship.

See my post on here. Same thing. I have the right not to want more trouble in my life than I already have.

[–]SapphicFox 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly! I don't know why people don't just say this more often? Its more of a concrete reason and gives the narcs less 'what if' room to respond.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

InsideHook, according to their fluffy about page which says nothing about them other than which demographic they'll slavishly cater to, appears to be a publication by and for narcissistic men. Here's my shocked face:

[–]GConly 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

A "sexuality" based entirely on trans exclusion isn't a preference; it's prejudice

We don't want to date crazy people.

[–]SapphicFox 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Plus all sexualities exclude entire groups people by definition. That is literally the purpose of labeling sexualities.

[–]deliciousdogfoodmy name isnt a puppyplay reference i swear 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They always think they sound so snappy when they boldly state that people having sexual boundaries is immoral.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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