DiscussionWhy are you so obsessed with...

submitted by hailthegambler from self.LGBDropTheT

“Why are you so obsessed with __________”

-Biology -People’s chromosomes -Trans people -People’s preferences -People’s gentalia

Anyone else notice this is a common retort from many TRAs? Is it just me or is this like a gaslighting tactic to shut down discourse? I’ve noticed this more and more lately...

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[–]Shadow_Lurker 45 insightful - 5 fun45 insightful - 4 fun46 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

They say this while being so obsessed with gender that they literally build their whole identity around it. It's crazy!

Not only that but they also go as far as to fuck their own bodies with hormones in order to chase an idealised version of the "perfect life" as the other sex.

[–]JulienMayfair 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This angle really reveals their hypocrisy.

Example:

Trans: I'm so distressed by my body and, in particular, my genitals, that I need tens of thousands of dollars of radical surgery to make me not commit suicide.

Also Trans: "You need to examine your prejudices and get over your issues with genitals. Genital preferences are literal violence!"

[–]bastetkat 35 insightful - 2 fun35 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I mean, they’re the same people who cry about "terfs reducing women to their genitals", but then turn around and call us "vagina owners" and "uterus havers".

[–][deleted] 31 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 0 fun32 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

oh it's definitely a manipulative tactic to get you to shut up. to make it seem like you are the crazy one for believing in science and what is observed in the real world.

[–]les4leshomonormative 19 insightful - 4 fun19 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

"Why do you keep making valid arguments that I can't combat without pretending you're a rabid freak frothing at the mouth?"

[–]hellonumpty 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

is this like a gaslighting tactic to shut down discourse?

Pretty much. Deflection. Very intentional to try to induce shame in lesbians, gay men and bisexuals who've likely been shamed for their orientation before. But only this time it's ''progressive'' or something idk.

I have to be honest, it's one that makes me laugh the most considering how much trans women talk about "girl dick" and what have you.

[–]PeakingPeachEaterfemale♀ | detrans🦎 | eater of peaches 🍑 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is basically "gay conversion 101" again but they masked it under the TRA movement to seem super "accepting" and to "validate" everyone...ugh.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"Reducing women to their genitals." That's a misdirect, but what are they offering on the other side? Reducing women to stereotypes, breast implants, other cosmetic surgery, and hormones is soooo much better.

[–]ThiccDropkickGay 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yup. I'm still waiting on the mountains of scientific evidence they claim backs up their gender identities. But nobody's allowed to ask to see it because that means we're obsessed

[–]MisandryFTW 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I don't care what genitals someone has unless they try to be intimate with me. However, males are statistically much much more likely to rape and be violent and are on average physically stronger than females, which is why females need their own spaces from males. Once males stop raping we can have shared bathrooms. If we could instead have a "rapist" and "non-rapist" bathroom, that would be great, lol.

[–]LasagnaRossa 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's a classical tactic to shut the other party up. Religious people use the same catchphrase with atheists too: "[if God doesn't exist,] why are you so obsessed with Him?"