Targeting / HarassmentTiktok Lesbian Cancelled for saying its not transphobic to not like dick

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[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 59 insightful - 5 fun59 insightful - 4 fun60 insightful - 5 fun -  (20 children)

Someone with TikTok should connect with her, calm her down and help her to understand that this is just plain homophobia. Those TRA are literally same people who were beating homosexuals 50 years ago, or maybe even worse. And question like "Do you hurt them, or do they hurt you?" should make her realize what is happening too. No need for political help, just human help.

Nowadays TQ+ not just have different goals and unrelated approaches with LGB, but TQ+ are actively trying to destroy LGB. Long time since homophobia on west was so agressive and huge.

Edit: in answers to that tweet, there her other videos, and screens of homophobic bullies with "to stop harassment you need to sleep with transbian with penis, or we will not believe you are sincere apologizing". And of course they will not stop bullying no matter what. And more weakness you show, the stronger they will attack. It is like with Terrorists - no negotiations. In our country our president recently fullfilled wish of one terrorist who took hostages. And you know what? Now almost daily new someone is trying to take hostages and ask something for themselves.

[–]Smolders1Cock is god's greatest gift. 42 insightful - 3 fun42 insightful - 2 fun43 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

Heard that she's already apologised and made a video of her sobbing due to all of the harassment. She's unfortunately already given in.

So sad to see young lesbians and other women being told their sexuality is not considered 'inclusive' and that they must conform in order to not be transphobic.

[–]Gearbeta[S] 39 insightful - 6 fun39 insightful - 5 fun40 insightful - 6 fun -  (10 children)

For now at least. I've seen this happen in other cases where they start off like this saying they're not TERFs, why are TERFs supporting me i'm not one of you, and then they pop up a year later like "yeah i peaked."

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 28 insightful - 4 fun28 insightful - 3 fun29 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

Help should not come in a way "hello, I am terf, and they all wrong and shit". It should be just supportive "you aren't wrong, I am with you, don't be sad please, it is fine to not like dick, I am lesbian like you [if you are one of cource], don't afraid of homophobes, it is same like 30 years ago, if all they can give hate, then don't give them back your love and don't let them force you to do what you don't want to do", and similar things. And explain her that mob is labeling as "TERF" everyone there who is slightly against their rhetorics, even their own transwomen.

[–]Gearbeta[S] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah, I agree I certainly wouldn't send a message like "Hi, I'm a terf, here's some terf articles to read about how we support you" and the last time I saw something like this happen (pxr on tumblr) people were definitely doing that. I'm just saying that even if she says she supports TRA idealogy after getting harassed by them now, there's a very good chance she will change her mind later. But you are absolutely correct that what she needs is support of a non political nature.

[–]Astrid2448 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

As an aside, they really are total assholes for beating up their own supporters. How many people here started off as supportive but got berated enough that they finally snapped?

[–]julesburm1891 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Isn’t that pretty much where we all came from?

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

She almost certainly will, but through what she will live trying to apologize and stop harassment before that happens?

You can repost this tweet to /s/GC, maybe someone there can help (just mention that help should be non-political).

[–]Gearbeta[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I really think the best thing she could do is log off TikTok for a while. And hopefully she has supportive people IRL who she can spend time with. The internet can really be a toxic place.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If those trolls are like on gencercynical, they will follow her on all her other accounts as well.

And hopefully she has supportive people IRL

I hope for that too.

[–]Astrid2448 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is what happened to me. The problem is that they attack their allies. I was on the trans train, but the hate didn’t stop. It wasn’t enough that I agreed with 99%, the 1% that I didn’t agree with made me an irredeemable monster unless I was immediately willing to change my mind. I’m not a TERF now either, but I am definitely a lot more sympathetic to how TERFs became so vocal

[–]Gearbeta[S] 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even if you did immediately change your mind, they wouldn't have accepted it. The TRA inability to accept apologies and constant hostility towards everyone is our greatest asset. Even if the tiktok girl herself doesn't agree with us there are probably other people who are watching this mess right now questioning if the TRAs are really as much of victims as they say.

[–]kwallio 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Its not even the 1%, the requirements to be a trans ally are constantly changing.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 14 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

That doesn't meen that she need no help. And even worse will be if there will be no one to stop her from "going to sleep with transbian to stop harassment". Because it will not stop harassment and will only hurt her soul even more. So many young lesbians went through this. My closes friend is lesbian and she tried so hard to be straight, to date men and "fix herself", that I just can't watch calmly at this girl living through the same hell, but this time forced not by patriarchic society but forced "by friends from LGBTQ+".

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 22 insightful - 3 fun22 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I agree. I don't have and won't get a TikTok account, but it may be helpful for her to understand that there is nothing she can say, no middle ground that will please them. No matter how polite she is, they will read vitriol into her words, accuse her of violence, blame her for murder and suicides, and try to cancel her. It's so painful to watch her having to apologize like that.

[–]CJLez 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

to stop harassment you need to sleep with transbian with penis, or we will not believe you are sincere apologizing

I grew up with a physically violent narcissist for a sister and she was terrifying enough but... I genuinely can't understand how someone can say something like that, nevermind to someone who is obviously having a potential mental health crisis, and stand to live with themselves. This is on a whole other level. It's heartbreaking.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I had similar things said to me in person during USSR times, and in internet it is much easier to say such things, especially for teens, who do not understand all consequences of their actions.

[–]CJLez 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

More and more I think the internet was a mistake.

I'm sorry you went through that.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Internet was not a mistake, it just shows all the rot of the society much better and much faster. And it helps to people a lot as well, so it is not only doing harm.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

There are incels invading lesbian territory to gain access to lesbians

https://wombyna-ovaryhaver.tumblr.com/post/615582838589472768/trans-reddit-incelmgtownazi-edition

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I swear these sad excuses of men have nothing better to do.