Targeting / HarassmentTiktok Lesbian Cancelled for saying its not transphobic to not like dick

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[–]Gearbeta[S] 39 insightful - 6 fun39 insightful - 5 fun40 insightful - 6 fun -  (10 children)

For now at least. I've seen this happen in other cases where they start off like this saying they're not TERFs, why are TERFs supporting me i'm not one of you, and then they pop up a year later like "yeah i peaked."

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 28 insightful - 4 fun28 insightful - 3 fun29 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

Help should not come in a way "hello, I am terf, and they all wrong and shit". It should be just supportive "you aren't wrong, I am with you, don't be sad please, it is fine to not like dick, I am lesbian like you [if you are one of cource], don't afraid of homophobes, it is same like 30 years ago, if all they can give hate, then don't give them back your love and don't let them force you to do what you don't want to do", and similar things. And explain her that mob is labeling as "TERF" everyone there who is slightly against their rhetorics, even their own transwomen.

[–]Gearbeta[S] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah, I agree I certainly wouldn't send a message like "Hi, I'm a terf, here's some terf articles to read about how we support you" and the last time I saw something like this happen (pxr on tumblr) people were definitely doing that. I'm just saying that even if she says she supports TRA idealogy after getting harassed by them now, there's a very good chance she will change her mind later. But you are absolutely correct that what she needs is support of a non political nature.

[–]Astrid2448 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

As an aside, they really are total assholes for beating up their own supporters. How many people here started off as supportive but got berated enough that they finally snapped?

[–]julesburm1891 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Isn’t that pretty much where we all came from?

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

She almost certainly will, but through what she will live trying to apologize and stop harassment before that happens?

You can repost this tweet to /s/GC, maybe someone there can help (just mention that help should be non-political).

[–]Gearbeta[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I really think the best thing she could do is log off TikTok for a while. And hopefully she has supportive people IRL who she can spend time with. The internet can really be a toxic place.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If those trolls are like on gencercynical, they will follow her on all her other accounts as well.

And hopefully she has supportive people IRL

I hope for that too.

[–]Astrid2448 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is what happened to me. The problem is that they attack their allies. I was on the trans train, but the hate didn’t stop. It wasn’t enough that I agreed with 99%, the 1% that I didn’t agree with made me an irredeemable monster unless I was immediately willing to change my mind. I’m not a TERF now either, but I am definitely a lot more sympathetic to how TERFs became so vocal

[–]Gearbeta[S] 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even if you did immediately change your mind, they wouldn't have accepted it. The TRA inability to accept apologies and constant hostility towards everyone is our greatest asset. Even if the tiktok girl herself doesn't agree with us there are probably other people who are watching this mess right now questioning if the TRAs are really as much of victims as they say.

[–]kwallio 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Its not even the 1%, the requirements to be a trans ally are constantly changing.