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[–]Shesstealthy 75 insightful - 5 fun75 insightful - 4 fun76 insightful - 5 fun -  (39 children)

What I would like to know is this. Why is it totally ok and understandable to ask women to remove or hide reminders of female biological function because it distresses trans women so much?

But NOT OK to ask trans women to remove or hide reminders of male biological function because it distresses women who have been raped or otherwise harmed by male-bodied people?

Look TBH I don't like changing in front of other females that much and I'd sadly be a bit more on edge if I knew that woman was a lesbian. It would be even MORE uncomfortable if that person was a boner owner.

[–]sisterinsomnia 58 insightful - 1 fun58 insightful - 0 fun59 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

Because the trans movement is not about rights and equality for an oppressed and small minority. I used to think it was, but it is now pretty clear that the movement is about them being the rulers who define everything and make all the rules. Thus, TIMs want not only to be treated as women but as the best of all women, the most womanlike creatures ever. Because they see themselves like that, anything they want to do is justified and denying them anything is transphobia. They want to cavort naked with other 'girls,' they want to keep their penises which are to be called girldicks now because it is they who define what is female.

And mentioning biological sex is transphobic because it messes up with their plans. Indeed, the existence of biological female sex is in itself transphobic. Hence we now read about biological sex being complicated, perhaps a spectrum, even socially constructed. But an inner gender identity as a woman is perfectly valid even though nobody can look at it, verify its existence, or measure it.

You can see how this is a takeover attempt when you realize that the word 'woman' now means absolutely nothing while the word 'man' still means what it always meant, how we can only talk about biological sex issues if we humbly call ourselves uterus-havers so that 'woman' is still something TIMs perfectly and best qualify for. Even 'female' now cannot be used to talk about biologically female human beings, because TIMs are ruling that they are female human beings.

So there is now no way of writing about traditional women's issues at all that would be acceptable to the wokerati. All our words are being taken away.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 21 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 2 fun -  (29 children)

Anyone want to investigate whether Incels are joining TRA’s to gain access to women’s bodies?

[–]sisterinsomnia 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I have seen some anecdotal (and online!) evidence that some are doing this, but not so much for gaining access to women's bodies per se, but for gaining access to the unlimited amounts of sex they believe all women enjoy all day long. Now how many people that might be is unclear.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

[–]Greykittymomma 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What did I just read? If my brother or son stole my property to jerk off in I would get them out of my house. It is more than dress up, that's pervert territory. We must protect our daughters from men like this. Sick fucks!! "I love being choked, love fantasizing about rape, love sucking dick, can I be a woman now???"

[–]3MistersAndAMissy 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Reddit had a sub like that called TransMaxxing. It talked about becoming trans to fet sexual access to women amd social standing. The TRA’s hates it because it was so blatant

However, It was still up even after GC was taken down.

Imma go look and see if the r still there.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Please do and send us a link

[–]Porphyria 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The mods of Reddit probably don’t even know either that some people are pretending to be trans to get lesbians to have sex with them. Tell the mods

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Okay. Report it

[–]SameOldBS 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you for summarising so well the thoughts I've been having. I'm honestly coming to the conclusion that most TIMs want to eliminate and subjugate natal women. Many are insanely competitive, and project all sorts of idiotic stuff onto women, such as we're jealous of their womanly power and so on. It amazes me that so many women - and men - can't see this.

[–]RestingWitchface 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But NOT OK to ask trans women to remove or hide reminders of male biological function because it distresses women who have been raped or otherwise harmed by male-bodied people?

Fixed it for you. If women's boundaries were respected from the get-go, we wouldn't have rape and sexual trauma. Safe spaces should not be reserved for those who have been violated in the past.

[–]YoutiaoLover 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I 100% agree with everything you said! Also, I hate changing/getting naked in front of other women/girls, I won't even undress in front of my mom unless there's no choice. A guy would have to walk over my dead body before I undress in front of him.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The more I think about the logic, the more I see Incel rhetoric. Anyone want to do some investigating to see if any Incels are apart of the trans woman movement for their own gains?

[–]Sittingonarainbow 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The bulk of TIMs are autogynaphiles, so even if they are not incels, they are fetishists who get off on invading women's spaces.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In the link, there are guys stating that they could have autogynephilia (forgot which one), then there are guys doing it for transmaxxing, and others for other reasons

[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is a very good point that doesn't get made often enough and thank you for reminding me of it. I think we often miss this rebuttal because things like this are so creepy and wrong on their face the first reaction is just horror, but there is also a deep hypocrisy happening in TRA movements where women are asked to feel increasing shame around our bodies for the benefit of TIMs while TIMs also expect women to be increasingly comfortable with dicks, talk about dicks, etc. Both, they claim, are for their own validation or acceptance in society, but this only makes sense in a context where males are the only people who matter.