Some of the Most Evil, Despicable and Dangerous People You Will Ever Meet in Your Life Are Your Healthcare Providers.

Amongstclouds · 2022-01-17T07:05:14+00:00

I am coming to believe that doctors are just an arm of pharma companies. Example: there is a drug for increasing bone density. People didn't used to get bone density scans unless there was a suspected problem. When this drug came around, people just started testing every woman over 50, regardless of family history or any underlying health concern. (Note: the test is not super accurate) So now, you get prescribed this drug if your bone density is low at this scan. And people are making bank on it. Source: https://www.npr.org/2009/12/21/121609815/how-a-bone-disease-grew-to-fit-the-prescription But before the pharmaceutical there was no standard testing.

I'm old so I remember when A1C was only looked at if you had a bad blood sugar test. Now that there are drugs that lower your A1C (Invokana, Ozempic, etc), now EVERYONE is being tested for it. All because they might be able to sell you a pill that will lower the test...oh, those pills are really bad for you, by the way. I foolishly took Invokana as part of a doctor supervised weight loss clinic. It fucks with your urine in ways that are REALLY bad for your body. It also can damage your kidneys.

My own story is a fun one: As one ages, their ability to create vitamin D lowers (you make less of a hormone). The lower vitamin D will also make you insulin resistant. This is why so many people in their 40s and 50s wind up with blood sugar problems (it's not diet-related unless all you ate was candy - that's just dr's passing the buck instead of learning). Well, as I became insulin-resistant, I started to eat few carbs (because that's what one does). This also meant I wasn't eating many foods with potassium in them. I got edema. I went to a doctor. They tested my heart like crazy. Shrugged when that all worked out and gave me a "water pill". Water pills lower your edema buuuut, they strip your body of potassium. Well, they hurt so I stopped taking them and stopped eating all salt. I was still always a little puffy. Finally, I started Keto and started taking potassium to avoid keto-flu. The edema miraculously went away. I learned later you can get edema from not enough potassium in your diet. It doesn't show on a blood test because blood homeostasis is a thing. However, had I kept taking those water pills, the lack of potassium in my diet + the pills stripping it out of my body would've given me a heart attack. Those fucking doctors could've killed me.

I'm done with doctors unless I have a bone break or something that needs stitches. When it comes to anything that is treatable with medications, hell to the no.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-05T00:41:54+00:00

I mean, the numbers they cited were an average. So maybe on average women get more but probably they are the caregivers 80% of the time so the math works out...I don't know. Hence the question. You saying men should be paid to not work didn't make sense in the context of the question.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-05T00:40:26+00:00

Except that my situation is typical. You're arguing it is not and providing a narrative in which it is not. You are literally spreading on an online forum where people can see a false narrative that keeps good women like me in oppressive standards. It's vitally important that I reach people like you and teach them that this is not true. Because the narrative being spread is really bad for me and other women like me - and there are a lot of me. I knew Director of Revenue who retired and when asked what she would do when she retired, she talked about all the house projects that needed doing that she had to do. Her husband didn't work and could've done them but she said "you know how it is when you're a woman - the house projects are never done". Like, she was in her 60s and resigned to it. I don't want my daughter to be there in her 60s. She already thinks she'll be the one working while a husband takes care of her kids. I'd like her to be able to find one who will also wash a dish. So, you need to know that this narrative is wrong and learn the truth. So she can have a good stay at home husband like she wants.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-05T00:32:32+00:00

They were inferring it was by virtue of being women which is why I asked about the childcare portion. I can't read it so I have to go based on their word. If a bunch of it was childcare then it would make sense. A society would want to make sure children have what they need to grow up and not be monsters.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-05T00:25:58+00:00

I don't judge women for that and I don't know any men who do.

I'd love to live in the world you live in. I wouldn't have to work and no one would judge me for not picking up after a grown man. Your world sounds amaze-balls - or fake. One of those two is true.

Let him learn the hard way then, like you did.

I did that. It cost me $2k. He still won't clean up after himself.

See, I knew it! You don't want equality, you want men worshiping women, exactly like I have been saying this whole time.

Lol, I actually don't. I really just want men to put their trash in the bin and wash the dishes after I cook a healthy dinner. And fucking every man in world acts like this is fucking oppressive. It's not. I just cookd you dinner. Wash your plate, throw the napkin in the trash.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-05T00:12:58+00:00

Keep telling yourself that, dude.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-05T00:12:27+00:00

That's not what they said. None of the convo was saying that. You're making shit up.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-05T00:09:04+00:00

It's not conscious, they are instinctively driven to competitive and physical activity.

Man, you are really arguing hard for the inferiority of men. You are pissing me off and not helping your cause.

They also said everyone was dying of coronavirus.

No, they didn't.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-05T00:06:33+00:00

Men often don't see the point of a lot of what women insist needs done.

Because you aren't the ones who are criticized for it not being done. People walk into my house and if it is messy they judge me even though I'm the one with a job. And you know what? My husband doesn't see the point of puting his garbage in a garbage bag. You want to know what the point it? No mold growing in my house and being able to breath without breathing mold spores. So you're right. You fucking losers don't see the point because you're dumber than us. If you were smart, you'd see that 1) cleanliness keeps away disease and is 2) frugal. It is fucking frugal to be clean. I can't count how many times I've had to rebuy something because of messiness. And I'm the one who has to work the hours to do it. So fuck you. Learn to see why it's important.

Convenient how it says "50% of jobs" but gives no detail as to what type of jobs we're talking about.

I gave you another statistic in another argument about the fact that women are literally making more than men and you said "bullshit" and wouldn't believe it. I guess if they can make more then men on part-time jobs, we really are better. I've been wrong to argue for equality. Bow before me.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T23:59:57+00:00

they shouldn't pay men who are caring for children because...why??

Like I said it's an excuse for why they're helping women more than men.

Who said they aren't? Most societies still place most of the child-rearing burden upon women. Which is why I ASKED if that was why. It's possible it's slightly different where they are. You are making a lot of fucking assumptions and you're weirdly obsessed with me - like, go continue our argument or whatever.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T23:51:45+00:00

No, I was just being a shit because I think your rhetoric is stale. You're clearly proving that there is a wage gap and that the system is correcting for it. But you're calling it laziness instead. And it's just soooo boring so I'm being a turd to you becase it is funny. Sorry for taking cheap shots but seriously, you're misinterpreting data soooo hard it's just...like, are you okay?

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T23:45:00+00:00

If that's true they should offer this support to people who work less, not all women. It's just another excuse for women to have everything handed to them.

Wait, if it's true that they work less because they are caring for the children then they should pay people who aren't caring for children to work less because...why?? I'm sooo confused.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T23:38:55+00:00

Most women still expect their husbands to do housework after being at work all day.

True but you fuckers don't do it. In the US, men do 18% of the housework despite women being 50% of the workforce. If we're half the workforce, we should be half the housework, too. And you know what is fucked up? That number is less than 18% of the chores when women earn more. Like, your entitled asses will do less work when the woman brings home the bacon.

Plus, it's a lot more rewarding than many jobs men are stuck in

I'm stuck in a job and you're right. I would much fucking rather cook and sew. But I have to do both and you know what? Men can do. Grow up. Wash a dish.

Women are half the work force. Men are half the work force. Stop with this stupid idea that women are sitting at home doing nothing. Just as many men aren't working as there are women not working. Clean up after your damned selves. You're not fucking children. If you can't do that, expect to be treated like children. We're done with coddling your asses.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T23:33:00+00:00

It seems like you should work harder on working less rather than bitching that someone else is working less. You failed at the system, yo.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T23:32:18+00:00

This is really irresponsible journalism. This person said they did not want to go on the record and they did not want their comments seen. This could very easily get this "journalist" sued. If anything happens to her and she did not consent to this, they could really be sued. So irresponsible.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T23:30:41+00:00

Why do you think they love sports and bodybuilding so much?

Wait, so you do sports because you want women? When you could just listen to them and be nice to them instead? Call me lazy but fuck that noise.

Not so much more likely that it is the case for nearly every single couple.

I literally LINKED you a statistic. It was actually quite a lot of couples where men were shorter considering how often men are taller than women in society. If you're not gonna bother to read, I'm not doing any more research for you. I wasted my fucking time on you. That was my time.

I don't believe that for a second.

Again, I wasted time on you. Actual fucking numbers and "nah, I don't believe you."

I've been complaining for the past several hours about men not being able to choose non-conventional paths like that

I didn't interpret any of the comments between us as being that you would like to be a stay at home dad. I didn't read your whole post history because I have a life, despite what it may seem fighting on a tiny stupid website.

I don't know anyone where the man isn't the breadwinner.

Maybe you live in a shitty area and should move? Or maybe expand the set of people you interact with? I met my husband online. That might be a way to meet a woman who wants a stay at home husband.

I just don't think women should be allowed to do that to men either.

They really aren't, though. Women are expected to support men emotionally in ways men are not. We just want you to step it up to our level.

How else are you supposed to stop people from making natural, mutual agreements and trades?

Um, ew?

Women are given much more charity, government welfare, and help from family and especially husbands. And forgiven a lot more when they do fail. Men are a lot more on their own.

It's not true about charity and government welfare but it is true about family help unless you're me, I think. However, the thing about welfare is that the politicians claim "welfare queens" and shit like that to stop paying welfare and they use women because women are respected less than men. So use the villain to sell the lie that it is being abused so you can stop paying for it.

You're buying into their lies.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T23:11:04+00:00

It's like fighting on reddit 10 years ago. the rhetoric is so stale.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T23:09:48+00:00

Okay, I cited sources elsewhere in this thread and y'all keep spouting lies and bullshit with no sources. I could easily disprove all of what you fucking said but I have to go cook my kid dinner now so i'm leaving this with a [citation needed] because jesus christ - you're sooo wrong, I wanna see where this bullshit came from. cite your source on this complete load of fake garbage, please. i have vegetables to chop now.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T23:06:12+00:00

So, do they work less because they have to take care of the children?

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T23:04:37+00:00

Ignore my first "it's a myth" I fucking misread it as less sexually active. Stupid speed-reading lessons when I was a kid.

Then why do men literally fight to the death to win and impress women

Um, they don't?

Why do women have such high standards while a lot of men fuck anything that moves?

Tell that to fat women.

Look outside and tell me how many couples you see where the woman is taller than the man.

Women on average or shorter. It's much more likely. Also, facts:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-common-is-it-for-a-man-to-be-shorter-than-his-partner/

Only half of women reported wanting a taller man. It's just, that, well, men are taller, yo. My mom was taller than my dad by only two inches. I bet if anyone asked, he would lie and say they were the same height, though.

Or where the woman provides better than he does

As the sole provider for my family with a stay-at-home husband, I don't even have to look outside, bitch. However, I have more facts for you. Back in 2018, half of households women were the primariy breadwinners: https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2018/12/17/more-than-half-of-women-are-primary-breadwinners.html

Now, thanks to sexism and the pandemic, I'm sure that number will be lower because men like you refuse to stay home to take care of kids. However, men aren't the breadwinners anymore.

~He has to simp or he's not good enough.~ Wahhhh I have to care about your emotions and your life! It's soooo unfair. Why can't I be self-absorbed and make you do everything for me???? WAHHHHHH

FIFY

Nope, a willing employment to make a living is much better than a communist government dictating

Pathetic dichotymous thinking. Lack of capitalsim != communism

It's still bad that it's almost always men who have to enter this contract

Not true. Proved above.

Otherwise he will be ostracized, or in extreme cases, even imprisoned.

This is true for everyone. Living is not free. You cannot chose to live without paying in our world. You can't just say "fuck it, I'm gonna go live in this forest" because they'll arrest you. That isn't a man/woman thing. That's everyone.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T22:49:04+00:00

lol, it's even better than that: https://saidit.net/s/MeanwhileOnReddit/comments/87r9/rmgtow_banned/uivs?context=3

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T22:46:52+00:00

xactly. Women pay 50 dollars but get 55 dollars. (example only)

Could it be because they are paid less and thus have less to tax?

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T22:46:16+00:00

Man did a thing woman is expected to do on top of having to have a job. New story at 6pm. Mayor is throwing a parade. Also, men are sooo oppressed. Parade for men who didn't punch someone today. Also a parade for men who did punch someone, too, just so their fee-fees don't get hurt.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T22:44:56+00:00

so they set the standards for a worthy man

The bar is soooooooo low and yet you're still complaining about it. My god. I hear women all the time stay with awful men just because the men don't abuse them. That's all it takes and you can't even manage that? Jesus. Get control of yourself.

Men are made to serve the tribe through coercion and force

You're so close to anti-capitalism...if you could just get there, you could stop dividing the world by men and women and actually fight the real opressors. Sooo close.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T22:41:41+00:00

Not true. Fat women are paid less. There's some data around this. Fat men have to be reeaally obese for it to hit their paychecks. Women just have to be over a size L.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T22:38:25+00:00

So is that help not offered to men, then? Or are you saying women use more of the support than they pay into?

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T22:20:10+00:00

Also:

American women aged 35 to 44 who were voluntarily childless constituted 5% of all U.S. women in 1982, 8% in 1988, 9% in 1995 and 7% in 2002.

from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_childlessness

So, frankly, with 92-95% of women willing to have children, it can be assumed that it is statistically likely that every woman has value as a child-bearer. 5-9% is a statistical outlier.

Whereas:

The national unemployment rate among male adults in the United States stood at 6.1 percent in June 2021.

Therefore, just as useful.

There, I've solved sexism. We're all equally useful within a statistical margin of error.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T22:16:54+00:00

That's not true of ugly and fat women, though. They are seen as a strain on society just by existing.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T22:06:27+00:00

female state support

I don't speak your language so I can't read it but can I ask is "female state support" the money paid for raising children? Like, benefits for having children?

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T22:02:50+00:00

You literally just said women are valued because of their reproductive ability - because of how they can be used. You are saying women are valued for how their bodies can be used while decrying that men are valued for their usefullness. Do you not understand you did that?

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T21:59:21+00:00

Children have worse outcomes with single mothers than single fathers.

Because of the loss of dual-income, not the loss of the man, though. Children in dual income gay and lesbian families do as well as straight.

Seems like the females had it better, even in slavery.

And yet, the people who were enslaved got the right to vote first - who was respected more?

What responsibilities do women have?

All the fucking emotional labor. I have yet to see a man put together a meal plan for their family. Not one.

Men are walking away

No, you're not. You're harrassing women online and not leaving them alone. Go your own fucking way already.

With the increased competition from female eunuchs (career women) many men cannot find respectable employment.

If you can't compete with women in the labor force, maybe you can start doing the housework and become a home husband. You will need to learn: emotional empathy, cooking skills, how to always be "on" and available for your kids 24/7. Enjoy!

When women do not respect men and when men do not love women the family unit crumbles.

You're right and your movement vilanizing women is destroying the family. Wash a fucking dish. Say thank you. Be nice.

Respect is earned. Earn it.

Amongstclouds · 2021-08-04T21:49:10+00:00

Women are to blame for the sex they didn't want (rape) because they didn't have the sex they didn't want...okay....apparently, the problem is women aren't willing to be raped to save other women from being raped. Did I understand the logic correctly?

Amongstclouds · 2021-03-18T19:48:12+00:00

Soo much dusting....those all require dusting...my hands hurt just looking at it.

Amongstclouds · 2021-03-15T04:26:53+00:00

Obvious photoshop is obvious. But just in case, I went to her twitter. This tweet is not there.

Amongstclouds · 2021-03-12T20:05:18+00:00

Thank you. I'm old enough to remember when that Q-word was a slur. Gay-bashers would use that word.

Amongstclouds · 2021-03-02T18:03:29+00:00

Adding to this: use gender neutral language when making your report or their preferred pronouns. This way they can't say you're being transphobic.

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