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[–]Amongstclouds 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (65 children)

female state support

I don't speak your language so I can't read it but can I ask is "female state support" the money paid for raising children? Like, benefits for having children?

[–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (52 children)

"female state support" was a reference to picking "gender: female", "income type: state support"

State support include:
Public transfers
Day money and currency help
No-job-day-money
Other day-money from A-unions
Currency help
Activation-, no-job, revalidations support etc.
Sickness and barsel-day-money (barsel is the time dad and mom gets 50/50 after baby is born)
Other transfers
State education support
Home/house support
Children family support
Green check
Public pensions
Aftersalary, flex support
Peoples- and pre-time-pension

Yes, money paid for raising children is included in the state support

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

...Why do you guys give people to money for existing? I can understand the income for having children as an incentive, but not for any other adult outside of those with disabilities.

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

It's better for the economy, it creates a more healthy society and more.

If people are poor, they will be less moral. They will do more crime. They will just make society bad lol
By boosting our poorest people, we can compete with other nations with much bigger populations.

[–]Vulptex[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

We need to stop caring so much about the population and birth rates. What's the point of creating lives if we're just going to ruin them all over this silly number anyway?

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

What silly number?

[–]Vulptex[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

Population and birth rates.

[–]Dragonerne 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

We need a bigger population so we have more male slaves to take care of the women in society.

[–]Vulptex[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Yeah that's part of the problem

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

The answer is Christianity

[–]Amongstclouds 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (31 children)

So is that help not offered to men, then? Or are you saying women use more of the support than they pay into?

[–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (30 children)

Or are you saying women use more of the support than they pay into?

Yes, exactly. Women pay 50 dollars but get 55 dollars. (example only)

[–]Amongstclouds 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (29 children)

xactly. Women pay 50 dollars but get 55 dollars. (example only)

Could it be because they are paid less and thus have less to tax?

[–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (27 children)

Yes, they work less and are more on public support

[–]Amongstclouds 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (26 children)

So, do they work less because they have to take care of the children?

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

Barsel is shared 50:50 by men and women. We have institutions for the children.

They work less because they are privileged

[–]Amongstclouds 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

It seems like you should work harder on working less rather than bitching that someone else is working less. You failed at the system, yo.

[–]Dragonerne 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

The system is systemically sexist, so even if I "succeeded" at the system by working less and being a parasite on society (like women), then it wouldn't change the systemically sexist society.

You're demonstrating the feminist logic though, so congrats on that one.

[–]Vulptex[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

If that's true they should offer this support to people who work less, not all women. It's just another excuse for women to have everything handed to them.

It's not going to encourage women working either.

[–]Amongstclouds 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

If that's true they should offer this support to people who work less, not all women. It's just another excuse for women to have everything handed to them.

Wait, if it's true that they work less because they are caring for the children then they should pay people who aren't caring for children to work less because...why?? I'm sooo confused.

[–]Vulptex[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

And they shouldn't pay men who are caring for children because...why??

Like I said it's an excuse for why they're helping women more than men.

[–]Vulptex[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They are paid less because they work less.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

That's probably exactly what he was talking about. He probably thinks women who get stuck with kids because the dad does not want to take care of them are so lucky and blessed and don't deserve to get money for raising children of deadbeat fathers.

[–]Amongstclouds 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

lol, it's even better than that: https://saidit.net/s/MeanwhileOnReddit/comments/87r9/rmgtow_banned/uivs?context=3

[–]NeedMoreCoffee 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

LOL :D

[–]Amongstclouds 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's like fighting on reddit 10 years ago. the rhetoric is so stale.

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    [–]NeedMoreCoffee 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    Keep your dick out of vagina if you don't want kids. Simple as.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yes, both of these are simply solutions to not having kids. Great work, folks.

    [–][deleted]  (4 children)

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      [–]NeedMoreCoffee 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      You need 2 to get pregnant so keep your dick in your pants .

      [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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        [–]NeedMoreCoffee 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Not really. Plenty of women are guilt tripped and pressured into aborting or keeping a child they don't want. Also plenty of creeps who sabotage the birth control to get their girlfriends pregnant in the hope they won't leave them. Or who slip off the condom in the last minute because they like how it feels without one.

        In the end putting the all the blame on women only is highly ignorant or hypocritical.