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[–]Amongstclouds 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I am coming to believe that doctors are just an arm of pharma companies. Example: there is a drug for increasing bone density. People didn't used to get bone density scans unless there was a suspected problem. When this drug came around, people just started testing every woman over 50, regardless of family history or any underlying health concern. (Note: the test is not super accurate) So now, you get prescribed this drug if your bone density is low at this scan. And people are making bank on it. Source: https://www.npr.org/2009/12/21/121609815/how-a-bone-disease-grew-to-fit-the-prescription But before the pharmaceutical there was no standard testing.

I'm old so I remember when A1C was only looked at if you had a bad blood sugar test. Now that there are drugs that lower your A1C (Invokana, Ozempic, etc), now EVERYONE is being tested for it. All because they might be able to sell you a pill that will lower the test...oh, those pills are really bad for you, by the way. I foolishly took Invokana as part of a doctor supervised weight loss clinic. It fucks with your urine in ways that are REALLY bad for your body. It also can damage your kidneys.

My own story is a fun one: As one ages, their ability to create vitamin D lowers (you make less of a hormone). The lower vitamin D will also make you insulin resistant. This is why so many people in their 40s and 50s wind up with blood sugar problems (it's not diet-related unless all you ate was candy - that's just dr's passing the buck instead of learning). Well, as I became insulin-resistant, I started to eat few carbs (because that's what one does). This also meant I wasn't eating many foods with potassium in them. I got edema. I went to a doctor. They tested my heart like crazy. Shrugged when that all worked out and gave me a "water pill". Water pills lower your edema buuuut, they strip your body of potassium. Well, they hurt so I stopped taking them and stopped eating all salt. I was still always a little puffy. Finally, I started Keto and started taking potassium to avoid keto-flu. The edema miraculously went away. I learned later you can get edema from not enough potassium in your diet. It doesn't show on a blood test because blood homeostasis is a thing. However, had I kept taking those water pills, the lack of potassium in my diet + the pills stripping it out of my body would've given me a heart attack. Those fucking doctors could've killed me.

I'm done with doctors unless I have a bone break or something that needs stitches. When it comes to anything that is treatable with medications, hell to the no.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Stop trusting these despicable people

Couldn't agree more. I started waking up to the problems in the medical industry when I dated a women who did billing and coding. The obfuscation and bullshit in that system is intense. It seems designed to trap people in medical debt and confuse them (and slowly kill them).

Then I really started taking my health seriously. Using regular medical advice to lose weight and gain muscle was a terrible idea. So much nutritional knowledge, promoted as common sense, is flat on it's face wrong. There's fundamental misunderstandings about food, health and nutrition in our modern corporate medical system. At first I thought it was negligence but now I know it's malicious. How I know that is a different comment for a different time. I council people on losing weight and getting fit and you would not believe how difficult it is to break people away from labcoat syndrome they have. They won't even consider simple time tested methods like fasting or carb reduction to lose weight because they think it's 'anti science'. Modern science has become a cult and it's sacrificing people. One example of the malicious nature of the modern medical industrial complex is the opiod scandal. 100's of thousands of people lost there lives to the carefully orchestrated addiction the Sackler family and their medical industry accomplices perpetrated.

Good post op. Also check out this pol capture if you really want a black pill:

https://postimg.cc/75KLHy9R

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sacklers are Jews. Purdue Pharma and the AMA are also controlled mostly by Jews.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just wait one second. Why haven't I heard about this from regulatory bodies and news organizations? Oh yea, It's because there's a revolving door incestuous relationship between those as well.

https://i.postimg.cc/BbpX5mXJ/1641073825804.jpg

[–]automatik 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Covid has completely destroyed my faith in all doctors. I'm certain that most of them are in on a scheme to profit from declaring covid cases and then even more profit when they put people on ventilators. I will not go to a doctor now unless I'm on the verge of dying.

[–]jamesK_3rd 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I wonder if we are specifically speaking about the United States here?

Most other nations have socialized healthcare, and the USA is the only country on the planet that generally recognized officially individual freedom as part of the country's founding documents and laws. So, it's important to make the distinction, because, right or wrong, the govts of other nations and their socialized healthcare providers largely determine who gets the rationed care and for what, and they determine the worth and value of the individual citizens' life.

I didn't think we here in the US could have the same problem as those in other countries, because we don't fit the mold above, or so I thought.

But for the past 2 years, if you said you had COVID, they would refuse to offer care. Go home, wait, come back when you need a ventilator. Although effective treatments have been known, ivermectin, HCQ, methyl pred, vitamins etc, they would rather murder you after they get govt money for confirming your test.

Ironically, if you go in for a respiratory virus which isn't COVID, they still prescribe a steroid, vitamin D, a nebulizer, an inhaler, and at times an antibiotic ( I know someone this happened to last month Dec) as they got a mild viral pneumonia.

Doctors now have become gatekeepers, as you've seen. Large hospital systems come in and buy up smaller hospitals, private and religious ones as well.

The Hippocratic oath, in it's previous form, is largely irrelevant. Most doctors have no independent thought now. They treat based on CDC guidelines, which is both lucrative for themselves individually and the system itself, and it offers the secondary benefit of removing any liability for the doctor or system, as the treatment are approved govt guidelines. The CDC provides recommendations for approved drugs and treatments, such as Singulair or a vaccine.

It was no lie that the were largely 500 doctors treating patients, largely For the past two years. Most of the rest, followed CDC guidance. Flamboyant or well read doctors sometimes offered their patients monoclonals, depending on who you were.

For the average Joe, getting them was dependent on you the patient demanding them. So even then you had to know about them, demand them from your doctor, and be willing to find another doctor quickly if the current one refused. This is purely with mainstream treatment, such as monoclonals. Off label treatments such as HCQ or ivermectin, or other treatment are generally verboten for doctors and systems that take federal dollars, again, the Hippocratic oath is largely irrelevant now.

We are unfortunately at a time in the US where you must educate yourself, and demand action or be willing to leave to find someone that will provide treatment for you. It isn't fair. But honestly, they make a ton of money off you, even if you die. So "do no harm" doesn't apply to the govt recommended treatments. They would rather murder you, as they get a stipend either way.

We must demand that our legislators remove the gatekeeping ability from doctors and systems. I'd prefer if they shattered the healthcare industrial complex, the healthcare monopolies, and govt payouts, but I largely believe it is too late.

If we have individual states that remove these barriers, we would have places we can go for medical freedom.

[–]raven9[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I wonder if we are specifically speaking about the United States here?

Yeah I was speaking in general about the system of big pharma medications and doctors who prescribe them here in the US. I had not considered whether doctors in other countries are more or less likely to prescribe those medicines with psycological side effects or not.

[–]jamesK_3rd 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There is seemingly much less diversity in treatment now, it's all generally top down.

So there may not be much difference as I said.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I have a different take on doctors as most of my friends at school went on to do medicine so when I'm sitting there taking to them now I just think "yeah, whatever Hina, I know you only had crushes on the gay boy band members at school because you were scared of men they were non threatening and how you lived in fear your parents would make you marry your cousin so don't think to tell me how to live my life now."

So, yeah, doctors are just human beings. There's no point looking up to them or demonising them. The fact is almost every out of the ordinary illness I've had I've either had to diagnosis myself and tell them what it was or had to push for months/years for them to take seriously. That's not because something bad has recently happened in medicine, that's always been the way. That's why rich and educated people have better healthcare outcomes everywhere, because they research and they push. They don't just sit back and hope the nice doctor will save them, that's how you die. It's always been necessary, because doctors are just people.

[–]jarcalon 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, but computer programmers are a close second. The people working for Microsoft are worse than Satan, with their invincibly defective and deliberately inscrutable crapware all covered in glitzy smug interface design.

[–]Letssavethefirsworld 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm American. I don't know any of my friends that trust doctors beyond broken bones or muscle tears. Serious obvious problems. I do hang out eith a lot of athletes so perhaps it's just my group, but I think a lot of people are skeptical of American medical practices