Derek Chauvin Charged With Assaulting Inmate's Shiv

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[–]thomastheglassexpert 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Brings back an unpleasant memory for me = some point Summer of 1979 I had just arrived a few weeks into a 10-year stretch to Monroe State Prison of Washington (a very old stone wall slam) and walking the Big Yard I got to witness my first real killing. It was called a stomping. 4-5 beefy men literally stomping on a bubba right in front of me and the killing was stomping on his neck. Killed him dead. When they were quite happy the men left and one of them stopped and looked right at me and said stern and clear "snitches get killed" and he just walked away pretty as ya please. I walked on. Have no fuck idea what the guy did to get killed but I was promised "you do NOT want to get involved" and my education and lessons of what real prison life is like began. We had several very notorious in the prison back in that day and I quite realized at 19 years old this was not high school.

[–]Questionable 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The worst part, they probably didn't even get the right target.

[–]William_World 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

hopefully that deterred you from committing more crimes once out

[–]thomastheglassexpert 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Thanks for your thoughtful reply and it brings up a fun memory = I was sentenced to 2 fives back to back meaning I had to do the whole 1st 5 before any good time applied to the 2nd 5. During my first few years since I was attending U of W Seattle on an Engineering degree when arrested I applied for their satellite classes they offered at Monroe. Also during that time I was asked by quite a few who got to know me "would you teach me how to read and write and be able to do some math" and within months I had a regular classroom set up with those who really did want something besides their senior year of 3rd grade. Some of them pretty scary but they could not read or write or do simple math just fractions and how to change a dollar. I gained my BEng in 1982 and all this noted by Parole Board. The kicked me out to a prison camp of fighting fire and planting trees where I did another year then kicked out to Parole House where I was stuck for about 6 months then out for good. Here's the funny part = at each location I was locked up I told a few about my plans on kickout and was admonished "o no you'll be right back here" as that is the law of recidivism. The original quote was at that time of my life "time on the outs is just waiting till I go back in" and no sir. I told all "actually no you won't see me again" and upon full parole I skipped the state and went down to San Diego where I was accepted into UCSD to get my masters and with that then I was sponsored by a world major to go to England and trade 4 years of my life and they would pay in full for my PH.d that I was awarded in 1988. Then I spent the next decades now in the insane world of high rise glass tower construction and that life coming to a retirement with my turning 62 a few months ago and I've never sat in a jail cell anywhere on the planet since. I'm easy to find = just Google up the words "Thomas the glass expert" and there I am at very top of the first page. So can a con go straight = yes. Prison did not motivate me to do that becoming a responsible good citizen and father to 4 did. Prison only teaches punishment exactly where an awful lot of people belong.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

"Thomas the glass expert"

It looks like there aren't many great matches for your search

[–]thomastheglassexpert 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I just now did a simple Google per my statement and this popped up on top of first page = https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-moore-961a45228/

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, i do get that too.

My mistake.

[–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

He pops right up for me on Brave search, no quotations.

Google search has become garbage.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Without quotes, I get a guy called Dave Thomas, but he was already in London as a kid: https://www.thomas-glass.co.uk/about.php

[–]thomastheglassexpert 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's a simple deal to find me = https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-moore-961a45228/ top of the first page of any search engine.

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

good glad the system worked

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It made him thirst for more.

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

probably, we need to increase jail times

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Its like high school but filled with violent, mentally ill grown men.

Also, you're not supposed to rubberneck when you see someone getting stomped out. Can be considered the same as snitching depending on the circumstances, especially these days with cameras everywhere.

[–]thomastheglassexpert 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In that I saw and said nothing added a few points to my name. Guards came to my cell and took me out to private room where I told them I saw a guy fall down and just kept walking on. Not my fight.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Police often don't have the best time inside.

Chauvin’s attorney Gregory Erickson complained to the AP on Saturday that federal prison officials had not been transparent about the previous day’s stabbing, forcing his client’s family to rely on news accounts for updates.

“I view this lack of communication … as completely outrageous,” Erickson said in a statement to the AP. “It appears to be indicative of a poorly run facility and indicates how Derek’s assault was allowed to happen.”

A statement from Ellison decried Chauvin’s stabbing, saying: “He was duly convicted of his crimes and, like any incarcerated individual, he should be able to serve his sentence without fear of retaliation or violence.”

Welcome to prison.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Shiv Lives Matter

[–]youfuckingtwat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

edgy

not

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

🧦

[–]Yutyah 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He should have been sent to protective custody.

[–]MagicMike 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

100% proof Chauvin didn’t murder anyone

https://templatelab.com/report-floyd-autopsy/

The Nazis put him in prison because animal nig nogs would riot otherwise.
When the day comes, hang them all!

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

100% proof Chauvin didn’t murder anyone

That's the autopsy report that found that floyd died of "CARDIOPULMONARY ARREST COMPLICATING LAW ENFORCEMENT SUBDUAL, RESTRAINT, AND NECK COMPRESSION"

That is evidence that Chauvin murdered Floyd, much less that he also didn't murder anyone else.

[–]MagicMike 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you’re not going to read it, don’t try responding to it.

[–]gosso920 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Floyd started the "I can't breathe" dog whistle the second the cops slapped the cuffs on him. No "neck compression" was taking place at the time.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Really? I didn't know that.

So they heard him say that, and then they threw him on the ground all kneeling on him, with Chauvin on his neck until he became unresponsive, and then kept it up for another 3 minutes.

How the fuck did they get off with unintentional homicide? That makes it clearly an intentional, deliberate murder.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

The man had heart disease, had multiple drugs in his system including fentanyl, methamphetamine, caffeine, cannabis and alcohol, all of which can or contributes to depress ling the respiratory system and/or affect the cardiovascular system, and he had been in hospital a week earlier from an overdose. He was a dead man walking. Chauvin could have just spent more time in his squad car and Floyd would have died before the EMT arrived regardless.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Chauvin could have just spent more time in his squad car and Floyd would have died before the EMT arrived regardless.

The cause of death was a complication of how he was restrained and his neck was compressed, which stopped his heart. If Chauvin wasn't kneeling on his neck while he passed out and then kept kneeling on his next until he died, he wouldn't have died that day.

When the paying EMT approached, they didn't let her help. Probably Floyd was already dead by then, by Chauvin and his colleagues made absolutely sure.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Your logic is retarded. He was a dead man regardless of whether the police arrived or not. He was put in the squad car before asking to get out because he couldn't breathe in there, he would have died in the squad car. Then you wouldn't have this ridiculous witch hunt.

If he had been left in the squad car he would have died regardless and it would have read "respiratory complications from drug intoxication" and you would still blame the cops for his death to satisfy the retard race riots.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

He was a dead man regardless of whether the police arrived or not.

While that's an amusing claim, it's not what the autopsy report found, nor is it what expert witnesses could see in the video.

Basically, you're taking shit.

He was put in the squad car before asking to get out because he couldn't breathe in there, he would have died in the squad car.

The autopsy report didn't say that. Can you link me to your best evidence of that?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You ever taken those drugs? You ever had high levels of meth and opiates in your system in poor health? Don't try and claim to the world you know something about the health risks of taking these drugs when you haven't walked in those shoes. You know fuck all about it mate🖕the guy was near dead in the overdose in the weeks prior and he overdosed again. I've seen the videos, he was buzzing uncontrollably. Your whole argument is 'what some bystander saw' which means fuck all. Don't talk to me about chatting shit when you're the village idiot.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Don't try and claim to the world you know something about the health risks of taking these drugs when you haven't walked in those shoes.

This would be relevant if we were talking about my opinion. But we're taking about the coroner Andrew Baker, MD, and the critical care pulmonary specialist Dr. Martin Tobin.

But I'm curious about your claim that you've had high levels of meth and opiates in your system in poor health: did you die, or was no one kneeling on your neck?

Your whole argument is 'what some bystander saw' which means fuck all.

Ffs. The witness I'm talking about wasn't a fucking bystander. I mean the expert witness for the prosecution, specifically Dr. Tobin.

And the coroner.

Your claim appears to be that the reason your know he would have died in the car, is that you can tell from the video because you've had high levels of meth and opiates in your system in poor health, therefore you know more about it than the medical professionals and the coroner.

Is that a correct statement of your argument?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

expert witnesses could see in the video.

You selectively listen to some people who watched a video over others who watched the same video. Having a job title doesn't remove bias. An expert witness is less likely to sacrifice his career and safety by publicly stating they have any judgement that doesn't fall in line with the raging mob of delirious rioters ready to lynch the first person to back the idea George wasn't a saint.

we're taking about the coroner Andrew Baker, MD, and the critical care pulmonary specialist Dr. Martin Tobin.

There was no physical evidence of asphyxia or physical assault. The wording on the autopsy report was a judgement call, not concrete fact. It also alluded to multiple drug intoxication, something you are intent on ignoring.

The witness I'm talking about wasn't a fucking bystander.

Who has about as much visual data as a bystander. But the guy was clearly over stimulated and twitchy, his behaviour was not that of a sober man.

therefore you know more about it than the medical professionals and the coroner.

Failing to disregard the massive levels of drugs in his system, erratic behaviour and the fact that he had both heart disease and tested positive for COVID, I have a fucking strong suspicion that there was slightly more to his health condition than lying on the floor, yes. Is that really too difficult for you to comprehend?

Is that a correct statement of your argument?

I have had COVID, it caused shortness of breathe. I have overdosed on entactogens, it caused psychosis. I have overdoses on stimulants, it caused tachycardia and tightness of chest, reduced blood oxygenation, fluctuating blood pressure and disorientation. I have experienced serotonin syndrome which nearly killed me, twice. I have taken over 50 drugs, most of which were novel stimulants, and I recognise the side effects and behaviours of someone intoxicated and judge the man to have been intoxicated. I have had poor health while intoxicated and judge that had I had COVID when I overdosed, I would be dead. Do I think Floyd would have died without police arriving on the scene that day considering my experienced view of the circumstances? Yes. Was the autopsy vague? Yes, it didn't explicitly say Chauvin murdered him, but there were complications which led to his death. Had he been a sober, healthy man, he would not have had difficulty breathing when sat in a squad car. Your obsession with blood lust for Chauvin is blinding you to the obvious, that the man was on a path to self destruction, had previous overdose history and was showing signs that he was overdosing again, which puts him at risk of injuring himself, police officers or members of the public. As a violent criminal known to have carried offensive weapons previously, most people would agree that restraint is the most appropriate route to subdue a person who is a risk to the public. Let's also not forget that the position he was put in was a part of the mandatory training for these officers

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You selectively listen to some people who watched a video over others who watched the same video.

Nope. Watched some of the trial.

Failing to disregard the massive levels of drugs in his system

The coroner soon not disregard the drugs in his system.

Do I think Floyd would have died without police arriving on the scene that day considering my experienced view of the circumstances? Yes.

Luckily there was an autopsy. So the jury didn't have to rely on what you think.

Was the autopsy vague?

Not that vague:

Cause of death: Cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression

Manner of death: Homicide

Most people would say straightforward.

Yes, it didn't explicitly say Chauvin murdered him,

It did explicitly say the manner of death was homicide.

As a violent criminal known to have carried offensive weapons previously, most people would agree that restraint is the most appropriate route to subdue a person who is a risk to the public.

The violent criminal was issued the weapons by the Minneapolis Police Department. He did have a violent history, with 18 complaints that were entered into his record, and he had shot 3 people, one of whom died.

Let's also not forget that the position he was put in was a part of the mandatory training for these officers

Ah, the bullshit, 3 people kneeling on you mandatory position?

"Hey, this guy's lost consciousness, but can you get over here and kneel on him too? We've only got two of us crushing the life out of him, and we don't want to be non-compliant"

Police guidelines instructed officers, at the first possible opportunity, to turn people on their sides once they were handcuffed and under control to avoid “positional asphyxia". Training manuals also instructed officers to be attentive to whether a suspect was having difficulty breathing.

https://apnews.com/article/was-officer-knee-on-george-floyd-neck-authorized-639cab5a670173ea9cc311db4386abf2