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[–]chottohen 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (21 children)

Better yet, why not have a fallback site and sub where we can meet and regroup if saidit goes down for good? In the present (US) political climate, that seems not so unlikely.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

DECENTRALIZE!

We ALL need to host federated sites.

[–]JoGooD 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

Yeah!

By owning our own website, even if it is hosted on some mainstream host that may do censorship, it is quite cheap, easy to do and we can keep getting news from each other with RSS. That would be kinda like having Facebook, except we're all in charge of the news we see from the RSS feed of site we subscribe to. I am currently thinking about ways to expand that. It might already be out there waiting to be used.

Anyway, I'll comeback with more guidance for that later once I've done my research on the subject. Beside, making a website and setting up RSS nowaday is easy and cheap (as long as you choose the right services and don't pay for useless crap).

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

By owning our own website, even if it is hosted on some mainstream host that may do censorship, it is quite cheap, easy to do and we can keep getting news from each other with RSS.

You mean like using GoDaddy?

That would be kinda like having Facebook, except we're all in charge of the news we see from the RSS feed of site we subscribe to.

Not sure what you mean.

I am currently thinking about ways to expand that. It might already be out there waiting to be used.

Not sure what you mean by "expand". I love the idea of building better bridging between platforms. That's a whole huge discussions of possibilities. I know about tech, but I don't know tech.

We've had ongoing endless discussions in and outside of /s/Cassy and /s/DecentralizeAllThings related to all of this. May I recommend you start researching Movim, Lemmy, YaCy, OAuth, and other decentralized platforms? Many are included within my crude roadmap list of next priorities after starting Projex.Wiki. Movim is my top priority for my local Windsor, Canada resistance groups - that could spread across Canada and the world if we're not too late and can convey the importance of decentralization. Related to SaidIt, two instances of Lemmy, both self-regulated, one for serious free-thinking elevated discourse, and one for fun and free-speech. YaCy is a decentralized search engine, for free-thinking and truth-seeking. OAuth is for users to have one identity across all platforms, above standard federated use. Other platforms would be good too for various reasons, but if we can't get Movim, Lemmy, and/or YaCy going successfully there's no point in going deeper. People are limited, unorganized, and don't want to try much. Projex.Wiki has been disappointing in that regard, but also, I haven't focused and tried as I might, locally and online. It's certainly the backbone we need, but I don't know what direction to take it other than to lead by example with some projects, including improving the wiki functionality. I grow ever more tired of tech.

These are the best solutions and best path forward that I know of. If you know of anything better, please let me/us know.

Anyway, I'll comeback with more guidance for that later once I've done my research on the subject.

I look forward to hearing what you come up with. Feel free to post it in /s/Cassy and ping me.

Beside, making a website and setting up RSS nowaday is easy and cheap (as long as you choose the right services and don't pay for useless crap).

We already have a VPS and an indie-server to learn/test on and to mirror/back it all up. There is some overdue maintenance required that is above me. I'm all for open RSS feeds, sharing, and archiving, but I don't understand your focused goals and purpose are with RSS. I can only guess you have expertise in that field.

[–]JoGooD 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I think the most interesting step for everyone right now is to start using RSS. It is an older technology that might be even more meaningful now than it was before. RSS is like getting news (like mainstream news, blog, rebate, forum post, etc) without having to navigate to the website. In short, it gives much more control over what we want to see and more organized. No more unwanted ads or articles. Of course there can be caveats, like website doesn't have RSS, or even worse, the website fight against it, but there's a lot that can be bypassed by hosting or using someone's service to make force RSS over any web page (and I think it will be possible to do that soon without server).

RSS could easily be used as some kind of FaceBook wall where each one get news from website of people they actually want to get news from (and not being forced to get news choosen by some mysterious shady crap).

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I'm not against having fundamental options like RSS available for everyone, or even promoting its use, but IMO it's folly to expect everyone to change their habits. People gonna do what they will, good, bad, or ugly.

A few years ago we discovered that SaidIt (old-Reddit code) inherently had RSS when I inquired about it as a way to help back it all up. https://InfoGalactic.com/info/SaidIt#RSS_Feeds

I don't yet know if decentralized and federated platforms like Movim, Lemmy, PeerTube, etc have RSS or not. I would hope so for many reasons. I'd also be happy to host some web-to-RSS apps and/or even an RSS aggregator. But unless convinced otherwise, that would come later because it would require starting up a community from scratch. Presently my Windsor communities are desperate for some secure online alternatives and solutions. Whether SaidIt management or many users will ever recognize it or not, we need backup alternatives - as well as different style forums for distinctly different cultures that are now forced to co-exist (and clash) under this single roof. YaCy is a different search(/archive?) story.

There is one thing I would like RSS to do, if possible. Currently there are a lot of private Facebook/Messenger groups with vast archives of good data. It would be nice to scrape as much of that info as possible for private Movim groups to ease their relocation when they're ready. I suspect adding users to the relocated new groups might need to be done by hand.

Also, it might be nice to have some forum filters (RSS or otherwise), whether it's metatags or number of votes (ie. popular above 10 votes) or whatever.

Anyway, getting the decentralized platforms (Movim, Lemmy, YaCy) up is top priority. Once they're up and building communities, we can work on RSS, IPFS, TOR, custom bridges, tweaks, and whatever the communities would like and can support. As well as creating tutorials so others can more easily setup their own decentralized instances to network with - the more the better.

[–]JoGooD 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Exactly. That's defenitely true that people won't all change their habits (although this is an important matter here and not just when it comes to technology) and RSS isn't as easy as browsing. It requires some planning. But yeah, any of these decentralized website possibly already have RSS or at least they don't actively prevent RSS (I suppose, I don't see why they would do that). There's already bridge service that can create RSS feed on top of a website that doesn't have it. It would be possible to make filters with these technologies (it probably already exist, it isn't really hard to do). Will play around with that this winter.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

If we get sites up and running, with self-regulating community management, I'll be happy (and I can move on to other projects that actually utilize my skill-sets). Then we can do all the non-destructive experimenting we like on the VPS, after first using the indie server instances to test things on.

I really do like the idea of the RSS being a simple communication modular info-node thingy. I wonder if there's ever been such a thing as RSS+ (or whatever name it might actually have) whereby the RSS is accompanied by other information such as metadata, votes, user comments, etc etc etc - all public. Maybe a RSSx would be good too for encrypted private stuff such as private forums, passwords, crypto/tokens, etc. RSSm could be for media.

Simpler is gooder,
if possible, usually.

Here's another concept we've been discussing: modules. Keep the decentralized instance as simple as possible. It's already too complex, and we want to avoid shit like browser bloat, having all options available even if not used. But we all love options. So just make them addon/plugins that are modular. If a module breaks it shouldn't take down the whole thing.

[–]JoGooD 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, that's the thing with RSS. What you call RSS+ is RSS Bridge (in fact, it is actually the name of the code used for that). Instead of reaching out for the readily available RSS from the website, a server is setup to pull data from website, parse it and make an RSS feed out of it according to configuration (that could certainly be filtered by upvotes and such). And like I said, it should be soon possible to just use html2rss as a program instead of having to setup a server, so there would be no need to have a 3rd party server for more advanced users. It can already be done with Docker on computer, but it isn't as easy to setup as a simple software, although Docker is quite simple to use. I don't know if RSS can be used to pull information from a logged in account (for instance, RSS from a private subsaidit). Haven't looked that up.

I think it would be great to make an easy and affordable setup with clear almost foolproof instructions to launch a simple communication and file sharing server but I don't know if it is realistic to expect people to do something useful with that.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm guessing you're familiar with IPFS. I'm guessing there's a bridge or few between RSS and IPFS and archiving apps/platforms/servers. It would be nice to have some of that action, perhaps tied to YaCy too - so that our free-thinking truth-seeking freedom-resistance folks can share stuff forever. It might be nice to have a rank/vote system on it too, so that trusted users could determine which content deserves priority archiving and sharing over other less important stuff. Also nice would be metatags/categorization/organization, chronologies, tools, and ways to determine what is the original and what are lesser-copies, derivatives, mirrors, etc. while making it easy to search/find specific content. Also also nice would be ways to torrent and/or shard large sections of a decentralized/distributed archival database.

I can dream.

[–]EternalSunset 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

MeWe is pro free speech, you guys should check it out.

There is also Minds, but it sucks hard. It's a Twitter clone and you have to pay for anyone to even see your posts.

I think everyone here probably already knows about Gab and Parler, but both of those suck hard too in my opinion.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Also:

And decentralized federated platforms and networks we can all co-host:

  • Movim (Facebook/Messenger-like)
  • Lemmy (Reddit-like)
  • YaCy (search)
  • PeerTube (YouTube-like)
  • Mastodon
  • NextCloud
  • Diaspora
  • Friendica
  • OAuth
  • IPFS
  • TOR
  • ZeroNet
  • Open VPN
  • etc etc etc.

https://bitshills.com/best-decentralized-social-media-networks/

[–]EternalSunset 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I don't know about all of those that you mentioned, but I know from personal experience that Lemmy is very much dominated by far-left users and admins will ban and censor people just as hard (if not worse than) Reddit.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

That is true.
When have we needed far-left information?
Until a federation of the deplorables is formed it will always be mostly left.
For now there are a few, like https://Wolfballs.com

[–]wolfballs-dot-com 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah you guys are all welcome at wolfballs.com. Other instances that are anti censorship,

nrsk.no

exploding-heads.com

https://community.hackliberty.org/

We are building up a decent hard to censor area on the internet. You don't have to rely on a single admin. If one pisses you off you can switch instances or host your own.

[–]IndianaJonesIf I asked you for a hug, would you say yes?[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Saved

[–]package 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Lmao at that MeWe site:

Unlike other social networks, at MeWe we have absolutely no political agenda and no one can pay us to target you with theirs. MeWe is for law-abiding and TOS-abiding people everywhere in the world, regardless of political, ethnic, religious, sexual, and other preferences. We have a strict and clear Terms of Service protecting our members: haters, bullies, porn, spammers, bots, lawbreakers, violence inciters, etc. are prohibited.

Then in the TOS:

You may NOT:

...

Post content that is hateful, threatening, harmful, incites violence; or contains graphic or gratuitous violence.

Wow such clarity and not at all worded in a way where it can disallow basically anything they want /s

[–]IndianaJonesIf I asked you for a hug, would you say yes?[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Post content that is hateful, threatening

Does soliciting random people on the internet for hugs count as threatening content?

[–]Capt-Bligh 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

MeWe banned me then tried to bill me monthly for a service I could not use. Beware of MeWe!!!!!

[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I've heard of Discord charging people for auto-renewing nitro which they can't cancel because Discord disabled their account.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Same as any site - including SaidIt and the ambiguous Pyramid of Debate and the entirely arbitrary "dragging downward" rule.

[–]IndianaJonesIf I asked you for a hug, would you say yes?[S] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Good idea actually.

In the present (US) political climate, that seems not so unlikely.

Absolutely, this shit sucks man. r/saidit was our "fallback" site but everyone knows that relying on reddit is a bad idea. Maybe our fallback site could be other reddit clones? idk man it's so hard to exist on the internet rn

[–]Clownowski 11 insightful - 6 fun11 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

GOD DAMN, WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED

I'm so glad that saidit's back. I was afraid that troons finally targeted this site too. I don't know where I will go if Saidit would shut down forever.

[–]Vulptex 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

I was banned from Discord just for being in WatchRedditDie's server, along with everyone there.

[–]Mastermustard03 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

I've been in a server filled with racist nazis since 2017 with no bans. Servers just need to vet people who enter. Randoms will end up reporting the server and getting it banned eventually.

[–]Vulptex 7 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

And then the person who reported it will get their account banned for being in the server they reported.

[–]Vulptex 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Also I don't think they really care about racists and Nazis. They just use that as an excuse to get rid of what they don't like.

[–]cars 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Most TIMs (let's be honest, those are the people driving all the "hate speech" policies for social media) are racists themselves. Look at Yaniv's latest misadventures. https://meowmix.org/discord-socialmedia-chats-partone/

[–]555 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

There’s been a fairly large campaign to terminate everything associated with /r/watchRedditdie for a few years now. They even infiltrated the reddit mod team.

[–]Vulptex 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Infiltrated? The admins and default mods have always hated it, they're the ones who started the campaign against it. Among them is allthefoxes, who is also a Discord admin known for banning people for no reason. No wonder the server got nuked.

[–]Rastafoo 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

I miss when Ruqqus and Saidit were a duo. If one went down, you could jump to the other

[–]IndianaJonesIf I asked you for a hug, would you say yes?[S] 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

most iconic duo of all time

[–]Vulptex 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

I was worried saidit might've been dropped, especially with the rest of the admins disappearing for the past week. I am u/Vulptex on notabug.io, we can discuss further communication options if necessary.

Another tip: if you have friends who you only have contact with on Discord, find something else before allthefoxes deletes your account for simply using a server he doesn't like.

Btw, if it wasn't already obvious I am CrystalVulpine.

[–]IndianaJonesIf I asked you for a hug, would you say yes?[S] 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I was worried saidit might've been dropped, especially with the rest of the admins disappearing for the past week.

Ngl that was my first thought too. When KF got banned, saidit was shut down not long after, so I assumed saidit was banned.

Another tip: if you have friends who you only have contact with on Discord, find something else before allthefoxes deletes your account for simply using a server he doesn't like.

Exactly why I have 9 billion ways to contact my internet friends. Emails, phone numbers and even steam accounts. I like steam, it's a nice "backup" option if your discord buddy ever gets banned.

[–]Vulptex 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It also looked exactly like ruqqus did when Heroku dropped it. And the first thing that comes up on Google search for "saidit" is "saidit vs. transgender people", which is what all these sites have been getting dropped for lately.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Plus the problems of WikiSpooks, starting a week before KiwiFarms.

[–]Capt-Bligh 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

NotaBug is extreme leftists politically correct Woke idiocy that when Rev War Two arrives all its users shall be sent to the labor camps to toil for the rest of their miserable lives.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I don't think I've ever seen a leftist on notabug. Are you sure you're not getting it confused with raddle.me?

[–]Capt-Bligh 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Nope

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

I already SaidIt 4 days ago...

It would be a shame if Saddit went down and we didn't have a backup. I warned you all. /s/Cassy

We ALL need to DECENTRALIZE!!!

I am paying for a VPS and domains, have an indie-server and the intention, but I also have a huge lack of I.T. skill. I am willing and committed to facilitate setting up a Movim instance on each, a couple Lemmy instances, YaCy instances, NextCloud instances, PeerTube, OAuth, IPFS, TOR, ZeroNet, Open VPN, email, etc etc etc.

And we could host our own CloudFlare-like filter system or whatever.

I can confidently say my local Windsor resistance communities are keen to provide the funds to pay a capable, experienced, professional, trustworthy admin to set these up, and occasionally help. No more flakes or sneaks. Give me your rates.

https://Projex.Wiki/wiki/User:JasonCarswell/Contact

[–]IndianaJonesIf I asked you for a hug, would you say yes?[S] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Okay calm down tupac, there's no need to use capital letters. It's very intimidating. Agreed though, Carswell. Magnora should employ your skills for the betterment of this website and a more free internet.

And we could host our own CloudFlare-like filter system or whatever.

We really should dude.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Also, FYI, a sign I made upon request for my friend John, at a rally last year, 2021-10-23: https://i.imgur.com/G82O2sj.jpg He got well over 300 hugs that day.

[–]IndianaJonesIf I asked you for a hug, would you say yes?[S] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Holy fucking shit bro. That guy is my hero! I should try that one day... damn..

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It's surprisingly effective.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

If you're intimidated by capital letters, imagine what capital ideas might do to you.

Like many folks, Magnora welcomed me for a few months, before he became inexplicably sour. I redesigned the logo, made CSS themes, made use of the wiki, and tried to improve SaidIt. Ultimately this site can NEVER improve further unless Magnora employs ethical FOTPACH management (fair, open, transparent, peaceful, accountable, consistent, and honest). He will always "own" the domain registry, but he will never own any community (unless he buys slaves in Libya). He is the only one standing in the way of building a better community with a shared sense of value worth working on - an investment that pays off only when people have a stake in their own future. Otherwise many users simply feel like it's another corporate free service they can just use and abuse and discard like trash - driving it like they stole it. All because he wants to hand down dictates rather than have discussions about policy. Sic semper tyrannis.

So meanwhile, I've been trying to facilitate setting up decentralized instances to seed new federated alternatives. They don't make it plug-n-play easy yet. And I have other things overflowing my plate.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

And we could host our own CloudFlare-like filter system or whatever.

My understanding is Cloudflare isn't simple to replace. It's not just software, it requires a significant amount of hardware.

[–]In-the-clouds 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Why would we need Cloudflare? They now have the power to shut down this website just for having an expired SSL certificate for encryption. Does this site even need encryption? We do not exchange money on this website so why encrypt pages we want people to find and see?

Cloudflare has power over websites, as a gatekeeper, and if they are corrupt or become corrupt, they, as a middle man between the user and website, could effectively censor both.

I have no need for encryption to view Saidit pages, and I am not afraid of an expired SSL certificate, so I say, let me in! But Cloudflare said "NO".

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Cloudflare's utility is in preventing DDoS, or distributed denial of service, attacks. Without Cloudflare, if someone decided they didn't like this site (and many don't) they could flood the web site with so much traffic the site will crash or grind to a halt. Anyone with the means and wherewithal could shut us down whenever they felt like it.

This is being done to Kiwi Farms forum right now, they got kicked off Cloudflare so that the transgender advocates can try to DDoS it to death. It's still up but the Russian version of Cloudflare gave up after 24hrs and now there on some janky Chinese one.

[–]In-the-clouds 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Is it not ironic that the service that supposedly should prevent downtime (from DDOS) actually caused downtime (they said because of an expired SSL certificate)?

[–]curious2 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting

[–]Evola 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

Did someone forget to top up the meter?

[–]IndianaJonesIf I asked you for a hug, would you say yes?[S] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

I heard it was because of an expired certificate or something like that, so I assume so yes.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

They had to take the site down while they bumped off the Queen, obvs.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

There is shit going on with other sites like WikiSpooks, KiwiFarms, as well as the SSL registration shit making it harder to be anon with a site.

[–]HibikiBlackWitch Doctor 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

Saidit won't go down. But I agree we need even more alternatives. I think d3rr was working on a different site altogether? Magnora mentioned being interested on creating different sites with perhaps more rules too. I would love to see what these two can do.

Also, it's kind of scary to think that this happened shortly after the thing with Kiwifarms. Reddit has gotten way worse too, with a lot of content being downright shadowbanned, the only reason why I can even post there and reach people anymore is because of my 1,000+ records...

[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

Magnora has also been completely missing for a week

[–]jet199Instigatrix 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (11 children)

That's not a long time for him historically.

[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

He doesn't always post on saidit but this time he's missing missing. As in also absent from all other sites and not responding to PMs.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

M7 asked D3 to fix the site certificate and he did. Nobody is missing.

[–]Vulptex 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

I didn't know d3rr was even still around

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

He hadn't been around since Sock's vote manipulation came out and Usher wouldn't ban Socks from chat. It's open season on Socks in chat now tho hahaha, so maybe he'll stick around.

[–]Vulptex 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

u/d3rr deleted his account, does he have a new one?

Also I think socks was banned a while ago for advocating violence or something.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

u/Fozziebear is Socks, that dude has a ton of accounts and he uses them to upvote his own stuff. Bans aren't too effective here obviously.

D3 has gone by various names, deletes them pretty frequently. Not sure he's gonna stick around now tho. It'd be nice if we could find another forum everyone would be happy with, but the pickings are rather slim. I was just suggesting a xenforo website last night but not everyone loved that idea.

[–]Vulptex 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

If you have evidence of vote manipulation please let u/magnora7 know, because that's a bannable offense.

[–]iamonlyoneman 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

let a nigga go on vacation for once

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

my man

[–]antisocial 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Imagine having a life off the internet.

[–]HibikiBlackWitch Doctor 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Even when those two are around it's like they aren't quite there... But I'm sure they still do their best for the site. I worry about them more than I let on but I also have serious stuff to deal with like to chase them around.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I'm back, everything is good

[–]Vulptex 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Glad to hear!

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Unless I'm terribly mistaken, d3rr was not working on another site outside his work or the /s/Cassy projects that kept getting delayed, side tracked, and teased by too many flakes and sneaks.

Magnora has talked for years about doing more, and done little. It's a slim chance I'd follow anything he does in the future unless he radically and provably changes to ethical FOTPACH management (fair, open, transparent, peaceful, accountable, consistent, and honest). He's accountable only to himself.

They won't work together again. Magnora burned his bridges and is blind to the issues he refuses to see, much unreservedly explained and expressed by myself, including many sentiments shared by passive-passive-aggressive-passive d3rr who is burnt out.

[–]HibikiBlackWitch Doctor 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Meh, too much doomporn. I'm sure things would be better if Magnora just interacted with the community more often, talked about his ideas and such. The thing I liked about when d3rr was in charge is how honest he would be.

Last time I heard d3rr was helping with freedit (Is that its name?) And I heard he was still willing to help out with other projects just that he went overboard with stuffs due to the pressure of running the site that's it. The only thing I find annoying is how he seems to be constantly on and off and doesn't really seems to be there when he is there and I find it hard to understand what's going on in his head.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm sure things would be better if Magnora just interacted with the community more often, talked about his ideas and such.

No fucking kidding.

I've SaidIt time and time and time and time and time and time again.

The thing I liked about when d3rr was in charge is how honest he would be.

1000% straight shooter. Resented being "in charge", and even when not, he was always a quiet leader.

Yes, I'd forgotten about that /s/Freedit project, since-abandoned by fschmidt (and team), who's all talk and judgementalism.

The only thing I find annoying is how he seems to be constantly on and off and doesn't really seems to be there when he is there and I find it hard to understand what's going on in his head.

Nailed it on the nose. Plus he's got life/work/family stresses. I hope he's repairing what's been eroding him.

If that's the worst thing we can say about that man with integrity, then I wish there were a million of him around.

The worst thing that I do to myself, and to others, is have expectations. I can have wishes, but when my hopes have strings attached, it becomes problematic when ultimately some don't manifest and I may consciously or subconsciously express bitterness, resentment, anger, fury, etc. Hosting these negative feelings are like drinking poison and expecting it to harm others. So, in this manner, I try not to have expectations of anyone, occasionally failing, but often delightfully surprised. With d3rr it was always easy.

[–]antisocial 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

It would be good to have an IRC channel hosted off-site

[–]Vulptex 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Not Discord, they would ban it like they banned /r/WatchRedditDie's server, and everyone in it would get their account disabled.

[–]Clownowski 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Discord is even worse than Reddit in that aspect.

[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Which shouldn't even be possible.

[–]antisocial 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I mean, QuakeNet is free and easy to setup, no account needed, I operated several channels in the past on there with no problems like that.

https://webchat.quakenet.org/

#saidit

[–]In-the-clouds 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I enjoyed visiting you in the channel. I used to play Quake, Q2, Q3.... and the quakenet webchat reminded me of those days. But I am glad I broke free from gaming addictions. I wasted many hours playing games. Our enemy wants us distracted with entertainment so we will not do anything to obstruct his evil plans.

You demonstrated there are other ways to communicate, and it worked!

QC

[–]antisocial 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Nice chatting clouds, will be a nice backup for those quiet days when the site goes AWOL lol

[–]Airbus320 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Mm

[–]Bridgeheadprod 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

If this shit all disappeared tomorrow. I know you will find me. I’ll be at your mother’s house. Let me know if you need the number.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

/u/magnora7,
Why is https://Reddit.com/r/SaidItnet a restricted sub?
Communications were thwarted.

[–]cqtz 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

It might've been automatically set to restricted due to magnora7's inactivity on the sub. There was an announcement about this 3 years ago, but I'm not sure what the exact criteria are.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Just use r/saidit instead.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

That sub is or was about something else entirely.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It's where a few of us gathered during thie last couple outages, cause we can still post there.