What are the arguments for segregation?

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[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

If that were true, then why don't children follow them until they're conditioned to? People generally don't fully subscribe to gender norms until the teen years when peer pressure sets in. Before that, even what little they do follow is because it's what their parents taught them.

Hormones do cause behavioral differences, but it's not what everyone thinks. It's not "boys like the color blue and sports and girls like pink and dresses".

And if gender norms are so inherent in everyone, why the need to force people to conform to them? If that were true, wouldn't they be followed already? And if we do have to force them, what is the justification for doing so?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

If true then why are asocial schizoids, autistés etc all super into gender norms, reject modernity embrace tradition, masculinity gurus, BRONZE AGE MINDSET MIGHT IS RIGHT stuff etc? That should be the neurotypicals if it's an external influence, yet it's the neurotypicals who have permed hair and painted nails while the people completely rejected by and who reject society are about traditional values, gender norms and such.

It's the conformists (you) who are against gender norms, because the institutions, which you ironically pretend you're against with your lolbert shtick, are pushing this crap.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They're into gender norms because the trans agenda confuses them. "I don't like pink therefore I must really be a boy". It confuses most kids and plenty of adults, having autism makes one even more susceptible. I know almost no autists who believe in crap like "might is right", if anything it's the other way around.

I am anything but a conformist. If you look in this very same thread another user responded to me with an entire essay ranting about me not being a conformist. And how could being against gender norms be conformist? Norms are a conformity.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I know almost no autists who believe in crap like "might is right"

May I direct you to: the entirety of the online right wing, every single 'subculture'.

I am anything but a conformist. If you look in this very same thread another user responded to me with an entire essay ranting about me not being a conformist. And how could being against gender norms be conformist? Norms are a conformity.

You are a conformist to POWER, they are annoyed you aren't conforming to NATURE.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the entirety of the online right wing

For the past 3 years only, and it's not autists.

You are a conformist to POWER, they are annoyed you aren't conforming to NATURE.

I won't conform to either because they're both evil. And in fact conforming to nature would cause one to also conform to power.