After Ye's Interview, the Left is bringing back "punch nazis" again.

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[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Good faith actors disagreeing is supposed to be what DAR is about. This sub has never been a hive mind, even among dissident right posters. I agree that content here is a far cry from reddit, but I don't think this sub's fall from grace means we should be tolerant of shilling. I don't want to fight with you NeoRail, I like your perspectives and you are one of the few reasons I come back here when I have free time. But I also liked the perspectives of many of our posters who followed DAR to saidit, but then grew disinterested and left. Doesn't it bother you that this sub is gradually losing the sluggers who made it great in the past, and in their place we get dishonest shitposts and concern trolls?

[–]NeoRail 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't consider this an argument at all, I am just expressing my opinion that the reason this sub is in a bad state is not due to radicalcentrist or any of the other posters. The real problem is different and if you want to solve it you will have to look for the solution elsewhere. That's my point.

I am indeed quite disappointed that this sub has been declining in quality, but then again this is something that has been ongoing since the 2017 quarantine back on Reddit, five years ago, if I recall correctly. I was actively looking for intelligent people back then and I found a lot of fascinating posters both within DAR and outside it - I lost contact with the bulk of these people due to the Reddit purges. The real problem isn't radicalcentrist - it is deplatforming. The fact is that there's not much purpose in a debate forum if there's a shortage of debaters, and especially debaters with significant ideological differences. This is the real reason why the community is declining. A community of this size is no good for debating - small communities are much better suited for advanced theoretical discussion, but the perspectives of the posters here are far too different to have something like that, since we would not even be able to agree on the most basic premises like materialism vs antimaterialism. Consequently, the current sub has the following advantages:

  • It is a good place to get news, information and commentary.

  • There are a number of intelligent posters with specialised knowledge, such as for example - to list just a few - Ethnocrat with his knowledge of Veblen, economics, environmentalism, Caspar with his geopolitical knowledge, and Mark with his understanding of effective political principles and praxis. These are not people you can find just anywhere. There were others on Reddit as well, like Stennes with his ARPLAN project, who does really impressive research, and I could name many others like him still, whom I am no longer in contact with.

  • There's also a valuable potential advantage. If one day an opportunity opens up on some social media platform for a community of people with varied knowledge to have open discussion, the community could migrate there and experience a renaissance of sorts. I think that this is an idea worth exploring in the future, and alongside with the previous point I brought up, is the real source of value for this sub. Most of the discussion here is hardly worth anything, but there are many insightful posters here whose intelligence is certainly valuable.