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[–]honky 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (43 children)

All of the racisim and questionable claims aside, would the Christo-fascists require that the 10-year-old should have carried the baby to term, marry the illegal immigrant, and move to that illegal immigrant's home country?

[–]NeoRail 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

The "Christo-fascists" would not have allowed for such a situation to occur in the first place, so your question is rather pointless. With that said, I can't think of any Christian that would demand a 10 year old carry a baby to term. Maybe you could find some of those among the edgiest perpetually online TradCaths, but even then it is unlikely that you will find many.

[–]honky 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

The "Christo-fascists" would not have allowed for such a situation to occur in the first place, so your question is rather pointless.

Christo-fascists could not have prohibited that rape. (They'll not get rid of all immigrants. They'll not keep 10-year-olds in burqas, yet.) Your point is ridiculous.

With that said, I can't think of any Christian that would demand a 10 year old carry a baby to term.

Many Christo-fascists require this, and marriage to the rapist. Read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marry-your-rapist_law#United_States

Maybe you could find some of those among the edgiest perpetually online TradCaths, but even then it is unlikely that you will find many.

It's in the news periodically. Happens in the US and other countries regions run by theocratic abusers.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/apr/14/marry-your-rapist-laws-in-20-countries-still-allow-perpetrators-to-escape-justice

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/10/forced-marry-her-rapist-11-woman-finally-changes-florida-marriage-law/413284002/

https://biblia.com/bible/esv/deuteronomy/22/28-29

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

A burqa doesn't prevent rape, in fact that part of the world is the worst when it comes to sexual violence.

[–]honky 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

It does if you put them in girls and boys. This confuses the rapist. Texans know this. And if kids leave home for any reason, well it's their own fault if they get into trouble with rapists. (/s)

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

Why would racial-fascists know what christo-fascists would 'require' in these circumstances?

[–]honky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

Fox News (and RAR) - "not Christo-fascists, but #1 with Christo-fascists, not to mention their base, racial-fascists." Imagine a Venn diagram with different types of fascism, one portion of which includes Christian nationalism (which is also racism for a large portion of that group). The best I can find is a comparison with totaliarianism, though with no mention of religion in the diagram but one can read in the description that totalitarian groups tend to prohibit religion: https://pediaa.com/what-is-the-difference-between-totalitarianism-and-fascism

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Do you think we watch Fox news? Do you think you're on a conservative discussion board right now?

"not Christo-fascists, but #1 with Christo-fascists

Ok so if 'Christo fascists' are really a thing where do they meet? Where are their organizations? Please let me know. I don't know much about these 'christo-fascists' you're referencing and I doubt you'll find a lot of people on s/debatealtright that know much about them either. We are mostly racial nationalists or racial fascists. Are you referring to trad caths? i.e. traditional Catholics? Because, those folks are a mix of libertarian and edgy conservative. Not very fashy. Some support clerical fascism but I'm not sure if that's what you're talking about. Are you referencing white protestants that Chris Hedges writes about in American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America? Because last time I checked that book doesn't really reference any specific organization either. I own it. I've read it. Do you know how I know there's no organization because I'd probably be interested in working with them and I'd be really excited if we had a legit fascist organization/party allowed to operate on American soil.

edit. I read your link but I don't think it's a very good definition of fascism. Totalitarianism and fascism do have some similarities but the article is purposely obscuring fascism and trying to make it look worse. Fascism is a complicated topic there's a lot of legit reading you can do to understand it better. Fascism, like communism, is also very regional and practiced differently among different ethnic groups. Your little blog does a poor job of explaining the 'socialism' inherent in both communism and fascism. Understanding all 20th century political movements means deeply understanding capitalism and it's counterpart: socialism. Then fascism and totalitarianism start to make more sense.

Watch this video for a starter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlXqFgqOviw

He's actually wrong about several things but it's a good start for people coming from liberalism or a moderate position (which you seem to be coming from)

[–]honky 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think this is a good gathering of the various diffences between ideologies. There are however two primarily problems:

1) Most fascists don't bother identifying with only one very specific kind of fascism that would exclude other kinds of fascism. Most fascists aren't interested in drawing such fine lines between religious and non-religious fascists. Instead, Christian nationalists often identify as fascists, without considering themselves outside of other forms of fasicism. The main goals are the same.

2) Regardless of the roles of religion in the personal lives of fascists, the main goal is a devotion to a totalitarian ideal that is itself a kind of national religion.

Regarding DAR: no one here will discuss all of the news sources they prefer, nor will they discuss their specific political plans. DAR is unified by this vague lack of responsibility for themselves and their goals, so that they can join in communal hatred of the other. If the news sources and the goals were admitted, the necessary associated strategies for their goals would require compromises that they'd rather not discuss.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Cool story socks

[–]oligarchracy 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

You seem to be obsessed with fascism. Meanwhile neoconservativism and neoliberalism has been on a decades long war mongering and killing spree while pushing a techno-authoritarianism effectively controlled by a Jewish elite. Facism isnt trying to start world war 3 in Ukraine. That would be your beloved Jewish neocon/liberalism.

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    [–]oligarchracy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

    I dont think he hates whites, but I dont agree with banning honky. He seemed to have a lot of misconceptions that we could have addressed.

    [–]pcpmasterraceDer Ewige Anglo 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

    Socks is on his 109th account. He'll be back.

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      [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

      They weren't banned because they had a conflicting opinion. They were banned because they had the writing pattern of a troll user named /u/socks we've been dealing with for years.

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        [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

        Yesus is another one of his accounts, obviously. This mentalist is even worse than Salos.

        [–]YJaewedwqewqClerical Fascist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

        I doubt a living child would be born from someone that young anyway, so in this case abortion would be completely fine (although calling it an "abortion" with such circumstances is a bit misleading anyway).

        Of course in a Clerical Fascist society there would be no illegal immigrants to speak of, and no scumbag doctors or politicians helping this to occur.

        If anything, cases like this prove that "racism" is a good thing and armed, lethal border security is even better.

        [–]honky 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        Of course in a Clerical Fascist society there would be no illegal immigrants to speak of,

        It would be impossible to remove all lllegal immigrants. This rape was also possible with a citizen.

        and no scumbag doctors or politicians helping this to occur.

        They didn't rape the girl.

        If anything, cases like this prove that "racism" is a good thing

        There will always be multiracial societies. Racism unnecessarily creates problems for society.

        [–]oligarchracy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        It would be impossible to remove all lllegal immigrants

        Why is that exactly? Does Israel have an illegal immigrant problem?

        There will always be multiracial societies.

        And? That doesnt mean EVERY society must be multiracial.

        Racism unnecessarily creates problems for society.

        So does multiculturalism. In fact that could be said to be a root cause of most racism problems in a society.

        [–]oligarchracy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        To expand on what I was saying, maybe multiculturalism works in some cases and not others. Maybe some cultures are compatible and others are not. Zionism and Islam seems to be incompatible. East Asian and European culture on the other hand seems to be relatively compatible. Not perfect, but workable.

        What would be a sign that cultures are not compatible? How about interracial violence, slavery, segregation, race riots, one group having an unusually high violent crime rate or poverty rate. Those would seem to be signs that cultures are not compatible. What nation seems to have had problems with those issues? Any idea? I could think of one very prominent example.

        [–]YJaewedwqewqClerical Fascist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        It would be impossible to remove all lllegal immigrants.

        No, it wouldn't be.

        This rape was also possible with a citizen.

        Yeah, but illegal (and legal ones as well) immigrants are far more predisposed to crime, especially rape.

        They didn't rape the girl.

        No, but they facilitated and defended it, not to mention trying to cover it up. Saying they have no fault is like trying to argue that hiring a hitman to kill someone isn't illegal, it's nonsense.

        There will always be multiracial societies.

        Okay? If you're saying that every society will be multiracial and you're having an ESL moment, you're wrong. And if you're saying that multiracial societies will always exist, then you're correct, but that's completely irrelevant. If your country is monoracial and monocultural, the existence of other multiracial societies doesn't mean jack shit and is completely irrelevant.

        Racism unnecessarily creates problems for society.

        No, multiculturalism and the entitlement of foreign invaders causes the problems, so-called "racism" is just pushback against tides of ungrateful criminal foreigners invading your country or parasitizing off of it.

        [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        It would be impossible to remove all lllegal immigrants. This rape was also possible with a citizen.

        Enough that you'd effectively make the incidents of 'rape by illegal immigrant' non existent.

        [–]EuropeanAwakening14 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

        What is a Christo-fascist? A Christian against abortion? Can you define fascism, please?

        [–]pcpmasterraceDer Ewige Anglo 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        It's a pejorative.

        [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

        Christians that actually stand up against Judaeo-fascism.

        [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        Judeo-Fascism is an oxymoron, that's like saying Evil-Goodness, Ugly-Beauty, or Falsehood-Truth.

        [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        Fascism

        I guess you're right. Maybe I should have used Judaeo-Tyranny/totalitarianism.

        I do think we can use the world fascism neutrally. For me fascism is simply the business sector and government coming together under an authoritative regime to achieve large goals (defending the nation, building a new society, removing subversives, expanding borders, etc). Fascism does not have to be European centric. For example the modern Chinese state is looking more and more fascist and less communist. I'm not sure if I'd call Chinese fascism good or beautiful. Maybe if it stays put and doesn't destroy the worlds air and oceans or invade neighbors it's fine.

        If you think I'm wrong here let me know. I miss the r/fascism board because I could always go of there and ask them questions if I needed help. Fascism can become a complicated topic really fast.

        [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        What you said is just the like organisational element IE Corporatism. You could have Liberal/Capitalist, Marxist/Communist, or Reactionary/Theocratic Corporatist states. It's fascist when the state philosophy is guided by being anti-finance, populist, revolutionary and modernist, non-materialist, autarchic etc.

        The reason Judeo-Fascism makes no sense is because the jewish strategy has always relied entirely on financialisation and parasitism whereas fascist philosophy is productivist and anti-finance based entirely around work. The central like focal point of the two ideas are polar opposites.

        This is actually something I find to be somewhat a problem because the Aryan/Normal human instinct when faced with our issues is to pull away from the system and to be self reliant, focusing on developing primary and secondary economic stuff. Y'know like grow your own food, learn to tailor, cobble, blacksmithing etc. This is fine and dandy but this is not how you get power, jews got power through low-work, high-profit methods and these endeavours are all high-work, low-profit. Thus they end up with all the power because they're highly organised, have endless free time and resources due to the nature of their strategy. This is how they dominate societies despite their tiny numbers.

        Parallel society/Georgist type guys ought to do more studying of jews (the Kehillah is not very well documented and understood) and mafias/crime syndicates (largely jews lol) rather than Amish and other self sufficient communities. Ones interested in revolution, gaining power etc that is.

        [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        jews got power through low-work, high-profit methods and these endeavours are all high-work, low-profit. Thus they end up with all the power because they're highly organised, have endless free time and resources due to the nature of their strategy. This is how they dominate societies despite their tiny numbers.

        This is a profound observation. Deserves a new thread. Seems like it can't be completely true though because if it's true the only way to counteract it is to become like Jews (which doesn't ever seem to really work out for whites). I'm curious if you have a solution to the Jews constantly having all this extra time and resources to subvert. How do we defeat this without also engaging in financialism, cartelism, organized crime and parasitism?

        Parallel society/Georgist type guys ought to do more studying of jews (the Kehillah is not very well documented and understood) and mafias/crime syndicates (largely jews lol) rather than Amish and other self sufficient communities. Ones interested in revolution, gaining power etc that is.

        The parallel society thing makes sense to me because it's action oriented and it creates an umbrella from Jewish propaganda. These small community self reliance tactics have helped us in the past to separate from Jews. Traditionalist and separatist agrarian societies can raise a generation of children devoid of Jewish propaganda. To state it even simpler it gives demoralized atomized whites something to do while getting together. If whites can gather around things, like farming, ranching, carpentry or artisnal crafts and skills, it gives them an opportunity to collectivize into real political parties. Like you said these spaces are naturally devoid of Jewish influence because they involved hard work. I know of no other route to power available to us at this juncture. The other advantage of parallel societies: they starve the beast. They direct labor and capital away from the Leviathan. Lots of Jewish power is simple profiteering. You reduce that when you funnel money away and teach other whites how to funnel money away.

        [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        This is a profound observation. Deserves a new thread.

        I've been thinking about writing an essay or something on these topics. It seems 99% of people, even long term anti-semites, don't really understand how jewish power works. I constantly see things like NAJALT and such, when in reality the jewish community itself is the source of power. Every jew benefits from the Kehillah (Yiddish or whatever meaning something similar to Volksgemeinschaft) and actively contributes to it, secular or religious. Then you have newer technologies like the Kosher tax that GLR exposed in the 50s or 60s, but at the very foundation it's the Kehillah. The Kehillah is the bedrock that gives jews the social capital/network, the opportunities/nepotism, the massive resources, the massive free time. The Kehillah is like a social safety net times a million, it makes it so the baseline level for every jew is already extremely privileged. Then of course you have the jewish culture which is to be in jobs that require little time and work investment for massive amounts of resources in return, then with the Kehillah in place which is their own parallel society they have endless one-way wealth funnels. Money that goes into the jewish community stays there, they are perpetually extracting and growing their resources. The mindset of the Georgist is to stop being extracted from, but not to extract and keep as many resources within the Peoples-Community as possible.

        Seems like it can't be completely true though because if it's true the only way to counteract it is to become like Jews (which doesn't ever seem to really work out for whites).

        When hasn't it worked? The closest thing we've had to the Kehillah existing is the Volksgemeinschaft in Germany which was profoundly successful, and the Legionaries in Romania which again was profoundly successful. I'm not sure what people mean by the emulating jews thing though, if you mean becoming shady underhanded jews, then that also works lol. Look at Bill Gates, The Koch brothers, the Walton family, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk etc. Plenty of white billionaires who behave in the way jews do minus the community aspect and it makes them extremely successful. Whites could absolutely emulate jews in both senses and it would increase their power, the problem is when whites act like jews it's always individualistically or when they have the jewish level of racial consciousness they don't do the underhanded, parasitical, extractionist, anti-productionist tactics which are what give the jews their power. The problem is that white people who are jewish/capitalistically minded are all psychopaths that only give a fuck about themselves, they're not pro-social and community oriented. Jews are psychopaths to non-jews but incredibly socially minded for their group, if we could brainwash psychopathic capitalist whites into worshipping their whiteness the way jews worship their jewishness they absolutely would create an extremely powerful pro-white bloc.

        I'm curious if you have a solution to the Jews constantly having all this extra time and resources to subvert. How do we defeat this without also engaging in financialism, cartelism, organized crime and parasitism?

        Mass movement organisation, they can only make money off of our work, general strike organised by the political party is generally the way to go IE White Strike (Dutch farmers, Canadian truckers etc have shown us the potential we have if we can organise enough people in specific key sectors). Then we of course do need the parallel society (not necessarily rural, you could do parallel society within cities simply by being organised but still in urban areas or near enough to them to regularly be active politically) and using things like Koschertified and such to avoid paying into the jewish system as much as possible, we absolutely should have our own financial institutions but I'm not sure if we could legally get it set up. I've been thinking about making our own like underground currencies; specifically with crypto, like the Kolion in Russia. All of these things are easily lawfared by states though, the only truly reliable thing is mass movement organisation where we can organise strikes in key sectors, everything beyond that is a essentially a luxury.

        The parallel society thing makes sense to me because it's action oriented and it creates an umbrella from Jewish propaganda. These small community self reliance tactics have helped us in the past to separate from Jews. Traditionalist and separatist agrarian societies can raise a generation of children devoid of Jewish propaganda. To state it even simpler it gives demoralized atomized whites something to do while getting together. If whites can gather around things, like farming, ranching, carpentry or artisnal crafts and skills, it gives them an opportunity to collectivize into real political parties. Like you said these spaces are naturally devoid of Jewish influence because they involved hard work. I know of no other route to power available to us at this juncture. The other advantage of parallel societies: they starve the beast. They direct labor and capital away from the Leviathan. Lots of Jewish power is simple profiteering. You reduce that when you funnel money away and teach other whites how to funnel money away.

        I think they can be good, but only if they are organised too and I'm not really sure in what circumstance they would be 'optimal'. I've never really heard of any of these like off the grid communes or parallel rural communities being part of any successful revolutionary movement. Maybe some of the Volkisch communes were part of the NSDAP, I'm not really sure if they were or not and they certainly weren't an integral part of their success if they were which is why nobody ever talks about them if they were. When I look at the successful national liberation movements the Georgist type stuff has never really been a factor, that's why I see it as more of a luxury. It theoretically could only help the movement unless you make the argument that these high agency people would be more effective earning a bunch of money and organising in cities which is a strong argument imo. If you think about it you can be self reliant but making little to no money, and you have not much free time to devout to the cause and you're too far away from power centers to be very politically effective. You essentially are taking yourself out of the game. If you took the same guy who has the ability, skills, intelligence, agency to organise a self-sufficient parallel community then this same guy could probably earn a BUNCH of money in the city and organise politically to be thousands of times more effective. He'd have way more free time and resources, and he would be in the power center. The paradox of the parallel society is realistically we want it to be all our dumbest guys who aren't really useful for anything except farming and labouring, then we can have them travel to the city for bigger events as manpower. When it's all our high agency, smart, politically aware etc guys it seems like wasted talent.

        [–]TheWorldToCome 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Yes, because you cannot kill an innocent child no matter the circumstances. But if you had a society where this was the case then there would be much stronger incentives around parents and protecting their daughters. Hell, even shitlib parents might then actually care about the demographic of people that are in their country too, if they had to keep the child of a nigger rape. You might actually see parents that protect their daughters virginity and don't le their daughters around men unchaperoned, like how it used to be. Also I have absolutely no problem with much much stronger penalties for rape, for instance torture and death penalty for the perp.

        [–]Wrangel 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        This really makes me think of fast life history strategists vs slow life history strategists.

        Left wing: A diverse mix of humanity rapes underage girls who then can abort the baby.

        Right wing: Underage girls don't get pregnant.

        [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        It's like the A Team of demons assembled. This child's life was ruined from multiple angles. Incredible.

        [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)