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[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Do you think we watch Fox news? Do you think you're on a conservative discussion board right now?

"not Christo-fascists, but #1 with Christo-fascists

Ok so if 'Christo fascists' are really a thing where do they meet? Where are their organizations? Please let me know. I don't know much about these 'christo-fascists' you're referencing and I doubt you'll find a lot of people on s/debatealtright that know much about them either. We are mostly racial nationalists or racial fascists. Are you referring to trad caths? i.e. traditional Catholics? Because, those folks are a mix of libertarian and edgy conservative. Not very fashy. Some support clerical fascism but I'm not sure if that's what you're talking about. Are you referencing white protestants that Chris Hedges writes about in American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America? Because last time I checked that book doesn't really reference any specific organization either. I own it. I've read it. Do you know how I know there's no organization because I'd probably be interested in working with them and I'd be really excited if we had a legit fascist organization/party allowed to operate on American soil.

edit. I read your link but I don't think it's a very good definition of fascism. Totalitarianism and fascism do have some similarities but the article is purposely obscuring fascism and trying to make it look worse. Fascism is a complicated topic there's a lot of legit reading you can do to understand it better. Fascism, like communism, is also very regional and practiced differently among different ethnic groups. Your little blog does a poor job of explaining the 'socialism' inherent in both communism and fascism. Understanding all 20th century political movements means deeply understanding capitalism and it's counterpart: socialism. Then fascism and totalitarianism start to make more sense.

Watch this video for a starter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlXqFgqOviw

He's actually wrong about several things but it's a good start for people coming from liberalism or a moderate position (which you seem to be coming from)

[–]honky 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think this is a good gathering of the various diffences between ideologies. There are however two primarily problems:

1) Most fascists don't bother identifying with only one very specific kind of fascism that would exclude other kinds of fascism. Most fascists aren't interested in drawing such fine lines between religious and non-religious fascists. Instead, Christian nationalists often identify as fascists, without considering themselves outside of other forms of fasicism. The main goals are the same.

2) Regardless of the roles of religion in the personal lives of fascists, the main goal is a devotion to a totalitarian ideal that is itself a kind of national religion.

Regarding DAR: no one here will discuss all of the news sources they prefer, nor will they discuss their specific political plans. DAR is unified by this vague lack of responsibility for themselves and their goals, so that they can join in communal hatred of the other. If the news sources and the goals were admitted, the necessary associated strategies for their goals would require compromises that they'd rather not discuss.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Cool story socks