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Free speech question

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The only form of "free speech" ideal that should be supported is personal/private speech, not applied to mass media or any form of speech that influences the masses. Speech isn't some magical concept that as long as it is "free" then it benefits society. Many have this same delusion about the "free market". Every social ill today is a product of speech, every revolution or social change whether good or bad in history is a product of speech. Yes, it works okay as an ideal when the intelligentsia are good custodians of the culture but it shouldn't be worshipped as ideal considering how much suppression will be neccasiry in the overthrow of the current ruling ideology. You won't defeat them with "facts and logic"

I know this isn't a popular concept. I am surprised how many on the far right worship the liberal ideal of "free speech". The only way the far right should champion freedom of speech is in a Leninist way. What I mean by that is fight your right for "freedom of speech" when you are the one being suppressed but have no interest in upholding that ideal once in power.