Questions on Whiteness, White Identity and White Culture

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[–]Fonched[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Just would like to note this wording might have been a little inaccurate - it refers to people who have one White parent, which are never considered part of the White group unlike any other race they may be.

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    [–]Fonched[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Yes. Still, what do you think of that classification? Is it always true, or has spread to biracial people of two non-White races? Does it make whiteness inherently oppressive?

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      [–]Fonched[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      So I see, although the half-Lebanese is definitely closer to White regardless of the mixture. I guess this is a part where appearance is key to racial identification. I had, however also heard of a study where those who are half-White identified with the other race over White most of the time.

      My thread is more about how whiteness was historically interpreted and whether it all gives credence to White identity today. Even if I do veer onto asking who is classified as White as a whole, I am mostly speaking of the "gray areas" (Kazakhstan, Ottoman Empire being European descent, etc.) in the puzzle.

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        [–]Fonched[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Interestingly today I saw a story about a CEO that was stated as Black and biracial, but was very White in appearance.

        Many from both sides of the debate agree that these groups were initially considered White as they were able to immigrate under the 1790 acts and were eligible for citizenship, but some also say that these non-Anglo groups were "probationary Whites" as they were treated as an other. However it is where many get the idea that whiteness is not set in stone, flexible and can open to several other groups becoming White.