Questions on Whiteness, White Identity and White Culture

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[–]LetssavethefirsworldReturn to Jesus 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

White means I am genetically attached to the evolutionary forces of living on the European continent for thousands of years.

One of those things is a 1-2 thousand year history of Christian civilization. Another is the influence of the Roman Empire. Another is the Ancient Egyptians enslaving Jews and causing them to hate Whites. Another is the climate of Europe, in Scandinavia it's very cold, so Fins, Swedes and Norwegians have very pale skin and sunburn easily. Another is the high genetic clustering of the Irish. Another is the genocide of European criminals in the Middle Ages; this event purged much of the genetic impulse to violence. Another is the food that grows in Europe and how that nutrition affected the development of our skeleton structure.

Most of these patterns and events have been lost to history. We can only speculate based on how we turned out.

All of these events and forces, molded the European distinct from the Asia, Africa, and North America (and they from he). Our blood is in that soil. In many ways the soil, has been fertilized by my ancestors. That is Whiteness

[–]Fonched[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Well, this is true. But the notion that these are one people legally and socially seems to have come up only since colonization in the 17th century.

[–]LetssavethefirsworldReturn to Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, pan-Europeanism hasn't been popular for a long time because they saw other races as non human or subhuman for most of human history. Those ideas changed, and Whiteness started to be codified into the legal system. For example, SA and USA both had race written into their laws, and they specifically use the term 'White'

[–]Fonched[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Is this a similar conclusion to the whiteness studies writers/those "debunking" white pride, or does this allow us to unite around whiteness in the end?

[–]LetssavethefirsworldReturn to Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Whites were always united around Whiteness. To them what we call 'Whiteness' was to them living as a human. That's my point