Anti-vaxxers only victory. Non-white countries are cancelling flights to the West.

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[–]proc0 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Polio is deadlier, and even then not 100% of the population got immunized, right? Only the vulnerable, which were children. Besides, if one solution worked for that disease, it doesn't mean the same solution will work for the next disease. The main objective should be to protect people from dying, and secondarily the hospitals from overflowing... but was that the main priority? If it was why weren't at-home treatments developed? Why are alternative medicines suppressed by hospitals, in favor of the "official" treatment(s)? There are too many of these lost opportunities to really solve the actual problem, instead of just pushing a new pharma product.

that every Nurse and Doctor was contemplating genociding the world

It seems to me doctors and nurses are in large part committed to following orders by the NIH or whatever medical organization they are part of, meaning that they can't practice actual 1 on 1 medicine with people. This synchronization can easily lead to large catastrophes of medical malpractice, which already are a huge death statistics. I'm amazed at how much all of a sudden people started trusting big pharma like the saviors of humanity.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Besides, if one solution worked for that disease, it doesn't mean the same solution will work for the next disease.

Thank god medical research didn't just stop in the 1950s. It's almost like Scientists are suppose to be paid to come up with solutions for fighting new ones all the time...

Why are alternative medicines suppressed by hospitals, in favor of the "official" treatment(s)?

Probably for the same reasons why can't I do open heart surgery with a chain saw, or rub a dead chicken on a patient's forehead?

Having standards is a good thing.

[–]proc0 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Probably for the same reasons why can't I do open heart surgery with a chain saw, or rub a dead chicken on a patient's forehead?

Even heart surgery requires consent, and is the decision of the patient, in addition to their being multiple solutions for virtually any disease. This is the first time everyone has become a zealot and push for the narrative that literally everyone should take seasonal shots forever (not even hyperbole).

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Probably for the same reasons why can't I do open heart surgery with a chain saw,

The chainsaw was developed as a medical instrument by two Scottish doctors.

or rub a dead chicken on a patient's forehead?

The Vicary Method, named after Thomas Vicary, an English doctor.

Were those deliberate choices? My ankle surgery was done with something identical to a Dremel, and staple guns they use to close wounds are just sterilized stamped metal staple guns you use in construction. Super glue is still handy for closing wounds.

While a chainsaw itself isn't still used, it was the forerunner of what we do still use. The chicken thing didn't work out obviously.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The chainsaw was developed as a medical instrument by two Scottish doctors.

They certainly were, but for reference, they actually looked like this:

https://files.catbox.moe/q5tdlj.jpg

Now imagine waiting in the operating room as the Doctor brings out this:

https://files.catbox.moe/3ub64k.jpg

While a chainsaw itself isn't still used, it was the forerunner of what we do still use. The chicken thing didn't work out obviously.

The point is, I don't think professional medicine needs to entertain every single idea for the sake of it.

It's a massive waste of time, we would need to train more people on the safety behind each of them, and more importantly, more efficient methods already exist that makes it redundant.

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The old fashioned chainsaw is very cool.

The point is, I don't think professional medicine needs to entertain every single idea at trying to find a cure.

All we have now are vaccines that keep wearing off, that don't prevent spread, were built two variants ago, and have questionable effectiveness against what has now become a more mild variant of an already very survivable virus.

The covid vaccine is like the flu shot. We haven't been able to get rid of the flu this way, I don't see why there'd be any expectation it would get rid of covid. Since covid is apparently here to stay, we need viable alternatives.