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[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

Yeah, but if you don't know why the meat works the way it does, you're a fucking idiot.

I know why it works the way it does. So humans can spread like a virus, no matter how much suffering and destruction it causes. This is why humans love social order and authoritarianism and tribalism: because even though it makes 99% of peoples' lives suck it's more efficient at maximizing procreation and destroying competing tribes, and people are generally very willing to make such a sacrifice for this pointless agenda. It's also why life will always suck for those unlucky enough to be born male, because the whole reason for making us that way is so we are specialized to slave better for that cause at our own expense.

[–]thefirststoneThat's my purse! I don't know you! 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Gross. No.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

You took the blue pill. I understand. The red one hurts, a lot, and more or less depending on your own situation. I often wish I could take it too so life would at least be tolerable, but it simply doesn't work on my autistic brain.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

wouldn't the red pill being we're just meat here mean morals don't matter

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

No, because the truth is also that if this body is holding me prisoner, chances are that others have someone in them too, especially with them being aware and all.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

agreed solipsism is false, we're stuck in our heads but we can tell it's the same for everyone, so it doesn't really matter if we're meat or not. My question is why focus on it. If something doesn't matter why bring it up.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Because whether others are "real" or just AI that look like me and imitate consciousness matters a lot for how I treat them. If they're fake it doesn't matter if I harm them, but if they're real I need to love them as myself because that means someone else like me is actually experiencing and feeling it.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

it doesn't matter so it shouldn't affect how you treat them what does fake and real mean in this contyext? the same thing.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

If someone else isn't conscious then I don't have to worry about how they feel, because they don't. If they are then I don't wish anything bad on them.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

ok yeah I understand that, and many humans aren't conscious so that is why I don't care about them

How about do you agree with the golden rule?