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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I had the same reservations about the German military as well, but at the same time, I now realize there were some things that no one could have predicted would go wrong.

Hitler probably expected Britain to join the Axis when he spared Dunkirk, which could have saw the entire Western world go to war with the Soviets. But since that condition was never met, Germany was left in a position to invade anyway, since Stalin was just waiting to do the same.

[–]Richard_Parker 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I have no reservations about the German military as a whole--just the political leadership. There were a few bad apples though, both soldiers and officers. Read Tapping Hitler's Generals as well as memoirs by Guderian or Manstein, or Frasier's biography on Rommel. On the other hand you have a campaign firebombing that deli Westley targeted civilization population, comp!iciry with wholesale murder, rape and expulsion of Germans by the Red Army, etc.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm not condoning the firebombing of Germany but it was a military necessity and the logical thing to do. The Germans themselves used mass terror bombings against Britain, Russia, Poland and Holland. The threat of flak guns forced bombers to rise to very high altitudes and at high altitude, precision bombing was impossible. High altitude precision bombing only became feasible in the 80s with the guided munitions revolution.

Back then, the only way to destroy enemy industry was area firebombing by mass formations of hundreds of aircraft. Thousands of bombs were dropped and together they did catastrophic damage regardless of whether they hit factories or not. The mass bombings helped to dehouse enemy population and cripple industrial production.

The allies had no better option. They tried precision bombing with high explosives against both Japan and Germany but failed. They swiftly attained victory once they switched to area firebombing. The German bombing campaign against Britain failed because they did not realize the merits of area bombing.

Arthur Harris later noted that if the Germans had adopted mass area firebombing tactics against Britain in 1940, the British war effort would've been severely crippled.

[–]Richard_Parker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No it was not.

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yup

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I feel world history was greatly altered when King Edward abdicated. He was in love with Wallis Simpson who was secretly a man. He was based and pro hitler but yeah he was gay and if not for that England would have joined Germany in the war.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not a chance in hell. The monarchy had about as much real power in England then as it does today. In fact George VI hated Churchill and had Nazi sympathies himself. That's why Hess was addressing the letter he carried to Scotland to him and not to a government official.

It changed nothing.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you're probably right but compare George's doing of nothing to Edwards working with the nazis thru back channels during the war, and Hitler was going to reinstate him as king if they won. And the royal family still has power, the politicians in UK are just for show, of course Rothschild tells the royal family what to do, but Edward got forced out partly because he wouldn't go along with it.